21st CENTURY MOSIN
Okay, I don’t care who you are. This crap is FUNNY!
For those of you not wishing to click
over, it is a picture of the Nip who warned not to go to war with the US
because a rifleman was behind every blade of grass. But instead of the traditional quote, he is
saying all the riflemen with cheap AR’s can’t work their guns and they now
present a tripping hazard. As I said,
laugh out loud funny. I saw it one week
ago ( remember, I always write one week ahead as a cushion ) at Western Rifle
Dudes site-so, beanie propeller cap tip.
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But it prompted me to write this
article which I was going to leave alone for some time. Cheap Ass Guns. I had started calling the $335 AR-15 the “21st
Century Mosin-Nagant” some time ago and am impatiently awaiting my Internet Accolades. Still.
Oh well, hump them all dead.
Bastards. To quote someone else,
even poor people deserve to defend themselves.
Keep in mind that in the US, gun control started as a means to keep the
original Deplorables from arming themselves.
In the South, newly freed Blacks always posed a threat.
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We used to treat that with a
raspberry and a dismissive wave, but I think current events have proven the
fear to be a bit too true for comfort.
In the North, all poor people were feared, White and Black ( although
Blacks moving North was fairly recent, despite what looking at Detroit might
suggest ), by the Gott Damn Yankee Hooer Elite ( yes, I tend to lump in all
Northerners as one, and even though it can fit, true Yankees are only New
England religious fanatics who feel compelled to cure others of sin. By force ).
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If you look at the people who
venomously dislike guns, once you subtract the vapid idiot brigades from
colleges and such, the Brownshirt bully boys, most of them are from Yankee
backgrounds ( Yankee as in Puritan busybody BlueBloods ). Since it would be a bit too retarded to take
away all the guns, since not everybody is foolish enough to pretend the FedGov
has their best interests at heart and might fight against that, nearly all gun
control is about prohibiting guns from The Poor. Why?
The Proletariat is who is the most dangerous to the rulers.
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The middle class are easy to
control. They are the debt wage
slaves. The poor though, they have very
little to lose. The whole idea is to
corral them. Welfare works great. And prohibiting cheap guns keeps a lid on the
protests. Every time a cheap gun source
is begun by those pesky Free Marketers, the loophole is closed. Guns by mail is too cheap. They added retail overhead cost to each gun
to fix that problem. China makes guns
too cheap, so there goes that import source ( and yes, some US gun companies sided
with import bans, the greedy pukes ).
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The fact that AR-15’s are too cheap
now means that the Yankee Scum will be banning them next. Probably not an outright ban, but something
to ratchet their costs right back up.
And I don’t think I need remind you that an expensive AR reverts to
being a piece of crap. Only
affordability makes it a viable choice right now. Once it becomes too expensive you revert to
owning a too easily broken delicate wallflower shooting a round that is less
than ideal ( although not as bad as it used to be, just like the gun ).
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I don’t want to get stuck talking
about the AR. I’m sick to death about
discussing it. Especially since its Dirt
Cheapness is for a limited time only. If
you want a cheap one, get the $40 lower receivers and the Palmetto State Armory
$300 kits, as many as you’ll think you’ll ever want, NOW. If the economy doesn’t tank and bankrupt most
AR businesses and customers, the gun control folks will. Anything cheaper than Palmetto will be one of
those cheap AR’s the above link makes fun of.
Even they are far from perfect-just Good Enough.
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If you wish to be one of my hero’s
and proclaim before God, minions and everyone that semi-auto’s blow chunks, and
wish to stick with bolt actions, you won’t save much on the guns but you will
at least save on the ammunition. A
decent bolt can be had for $250 on occasion, but that would have to be
used. Most of them will probably be
Little Used, as everyone has the AR Fever.
But if you’d prefer to stick with new, I’ve seen the single shot break
opens for as cheap as $260.
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Those are LESS accurate than
bolts. Call it on par with semi’s. A break open isn’t as rigid, and then are
made as cheap as possible ( most bolts are, also, of course. The best value in cheap seems to be Savage
). But a cheap bolt will usually serve
you better than a cheap AR. It just isn’t
as sexy. Not that a frozen or jammed AR
is too sexy, but they are neat until you start firing them. Anyway, the main attribute to singles is the
butt simple design that is almost impossible to break. Not necessarily the cheaper price.
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You can buy the cheapest gun, and
treat it as a Butter Knife Gun ( more on this tomorrow ), or you can buy the
cheapest possible gun that will suffice long term ( buying all you’ll ever
need, NOW, both because of the apocalypse and because of politics ), but beware-
Cheap is on the endangered species list.
Not just guns but everything.
Once the PetroDollar is dead, goodbye imports and hello REAL inflation (
we forced others to take it up the ass inflation wise, with the Petro
Dollar. That will reverse back to you
and me ).
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One day soon, the “idiots” that bought
$400 AR’s or the $100 Wal-Mart shotguns will be looking pretty smart, and those
unarmed, pretty damn stupid ( and BTW, not having enough ammo puts you in the
EXTRA moronic retard category ). This is
not to discount the fact that cheap AR’s will make you a stumbling hazard. I’ll get into that tomorrow.
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Folowing along. Minions should also think out the "probable" regulatory results in their decisions. The minion who aquires the standard bubba deer rifle, (more powerful calibers, scoped accuracy, old world reliable design) would be in a parallel better position. The gun type will not draw phsycopathic LEO dogma scrutiny in any chance encounters. If dwelling in rurals or country areas it, and you, will blend in. (instead of milspec cammie clothes and black rifle dorks) Dressing self for the weather also requires appropriateness for the social setting. An advisory to the 2A freedum adherents; you individually and collectively in most areas have been or will be shortly, out voted, out legislated, and out populated. Jim's Nevada had a blue wave enema, and the Commiefornia transplants and SJW urbans will dictate law and punishments for the rest. Plan accordingly.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Nevada is humped. But so are most places. Idaho included. Hurry up, you slow punk ass economic collapse! You're our only hope now.
DeleteIn agreement with what the poster above stated, and no longer have any doubts that gun rights (along with many other liberties) will be taking a severe hit over the next decade. I had been wanting a small pistol for concealed carry. At first I looked at some small semi-autos, in the .380/9mm category, because they were light, affordable, and provided a lot of firepower. None of the models that I looked at, and that were affordable, were on the Commiefornia roster of approved firearms (Yeah I know, move out of Commiefornia, and I plan on it. But don’t think that it won’t follow to other states, and sooner rather than later). Next I looked at revolvers. Not as big of a problem finding one on the approved roster, but after having to take and pass my firearms safety certification, demonstrate how to handle the gun of my choice to the dealer before receiving it, and following the receipt of said firearm, sending a copy of the DROS to the Dept Of Justice (i.e. registering my firearm) the Camels back was bowing pretty heavily under the straw load of such terms and conditions. I’m halfway tempted to just say f _ _ k it! And get another cap and ball revolver! Oh, they too will be regulated eventually as well, but they will probably be among the last to be so. I also would have considered buying a cartridge conversion cylinder (no hassles at the time of this writing) for the cap and ball, but they want the same for the conversion cylinder as a new revolver would cost, so it’s generally not worth the price paid.
DeleteI know, I know, it ain't a concealed piece. But just as an Interesting To Know, one company, if legit, was selling $350 Swiss bolt rifles, made in 1898 ( or whatever the "not a firearm" date is ). Saw that today answering another comment.
DeleteYeah, it’s 1898 and prior Jim, are exempt. With the exception of those re-chambered Mauser's, and perhaps a few others though, you generally wouldn’t shoot such old guns. Most guns made the transformation from black powder to smokeless, or nitro, starting in the late 19th century. Sure, you can load black powder cartridges for older guns if you wish, but if the gun is a valuable collector item, or doesn’t have replacement parts, it’s probably best to keep them as collectibles.
Delete“but what about shotgun powder? Is that low enough pressure to reload with?”
DeleteAs a short answer Jim, I’d have to say no to be on the safe side. In the case of those old Mauser's and Swiss guns, they were nitro proofed (smokeless) from the beginning (at least the versions that the sportsman’s guide was selling). In the case of smokeless vs black powder, as far the main differences go, it’s the rapid pressure spike produced by smokeless that gets you. That’s why even if you load smokeless to be same fps as black powder, it’s still not the same, because that rapid pressure spike could be the undoing of the weaker black powder barrel.
I’ve known of people that have shot the old Damascus twist steel barreled shotguns, using the modern 2-3/4” shotshells, and somehow got away with it. This is dangerous for two reasons. One is that old shotguns rarely (if ever) had chambers as long as 2-3/4”. The other is that you’re firing a higher pressure smokeless load through a barrel that is basically a giant Slinky (Recall how Damascus is made) and just might come undone like one, with your hand sitting just beneath it as you fire it 😲 Now apparently, at least a few of these old Damascus guns were nitro proofed, but not very many.
Okay, excellent. Never had it explained so well before-thanks.
DeleteYep, use that butter knife gun if just starting out or forced to arm up on the cheap. A very, very short period into the collapse will result in lots and lots of ar15s laying about as battlefield pick ups during mop ups. Even in Paris' yellow vester moderate disturbances the cops had an "assault rifle" stolen from a vehicle as it went down to the hyennas! Think outside of the box.
ReplyDeleteMs. Keel is funny as hell, I laughed out loud too when I read that on her blog.
ReplyDeleteFinding a durable Apocalypse capable rifle is getting difficult, now that the surplus market is nearly depeleted. I hope some foreign land discovers a bunch of Mauser / Springfields and want to sell them while they can. If the Swiss had chambered the K31 carbine in 7.62 NATO, that would have made a fine rifle for 'forever'. As it is, finding the Swiss GP-11 (7.5 Swiss) cartridge is difficult and priced dearly.
I like the single-shots, but wonder about durability issues. Especially the ejector / extractor - a few spares of those and knowledge of how to fix it would be wise.
Thank you sir.
The only good thing about the Swiss rifle is the guns are held down in price due to the ammo. But, Partizan makes it and it is the same price as 303 Brit ( boxer prime, brass ). And the rifles are $350. Much better than wartime beat to crap Enfields at $600. All things considered, they are a screaming bargain compared to most everything else ( and you are getting a marksmens rifle ).
DeleteI have levers, pumps, bolts, and semi's, long and short, but I have no revolvers. I need to fix that. I'm thinking .357.
ReplyDeleteI don't recommend anything else for the apocalypse, and that is with understanding their shortcomings. Just don't practice as much as is normal for you :) All revolvers eventually go out of timing, yes?
DeleteYeah, firing a lot of magnums may do so. I have magnum ammo for hunt side arm, or for my special purposes :( .-.-.-.-.-.-!, etc. Use 38 special for plinking or a ladies self defense house gun and good to go. Old pre safety lock smith and wessons were best. Ruger gp100 4 inch stainless is the way to go. Tad pricey, but steel gun that will outlast you.
DeleteOK, WTF happened? I thought gun prices were supposed to be reasonable now. That Ruger is over $600 everywhere, and that's for a 6 shooter! My Beretta cost $600 and holds 3 times as many. I am partial to Ruger though as I carried a Ruger Blackhawk western style revolver in 357 to alaska for running trap lines. I'm gonna keep looking and at this point in my life I don't think I'm interested in a used gun and the baggage it might be carrying.
DeleteA gun that will outlast me? Hell any gun might do that. Got a text from my brother last night and he's in the hospital with his 2nd heart attack in 2 months. He's 56 and 7 years younger than me. Scary stuff.
Interesting. I’ve owned several revolvers, and have never had one go out of time. Now I’ve only owned Rugers, so I can’t speak for the other brands, so maybe there’s something to be said about this particular brand. I had a .357 Service Six, previously owned. I never actually put .357’s through it; only 38’s. But you would think that being previously owned, I might have encountered a problem with this particular gun.
DeleteI should say this is just the myth I've heard, repeated. I could be wrong for listening.
DeleteGS-I think only Crap AR's and hunting rifles, and plastic pistols, are on the Affordable Enough list.
Delete"All revolvers eventually go out of timing, yes?"
DeleteNot sure all do, but the one that is very prone to doing so is the Colt Python. It is a very finely tuned revolver whose design uses the hand to pretty much time up everything in the mechanism. During firing a good deal of the forces generated impinge on the tip of the hand. Normal shooting/handling reduces that stress but shooting lots of heavy magnum rounds, or mis-treating it (like snapping the cylinder shut as they do in some movies) accelerates the wear on the hand. And since the gun's entire timing is based on that one part being fitted juuuusssst right, having the hand replaced means sending it back to Colt or one of the few authorized service centers for that work. (A good gunsmith will refuse the work, and a bad gunsmith will usually end up doing enough damage that the gun has to go back to Colt anyway.)
Many years ago I bought a used Python from an aging relative who no longer wanted it and sold it to me at a very deep discount. It had gone out of time and needed a trip back to Colt for the repair. It wasn't that expensive (at least compared to the cost of a Python) and it's where I learned firsthand what is posted above.
Colt, I spit in your general direction!
DeleteToday's ha ha. Rawles has created a new acronym, as if those people don't speak in tongues enough already. "PORC" 'perps from outside the redoubt correaltion'. Used in reference to any outsiders whom are offenders in the sacred redoubt. Funny that tribe and identity stuff used fast and loose. As if these glorious redoubter states and counties do not have occupied up prisons, jails, probation offices with their own "peeps" and inbred offspring. Minions whom are pioneering for new territory to encamp take note.
ReplyDeleteHa! Well, language is a tribal identifier. Doctors have Latin, Rawlesians have acronyms.
DeleteWhat's really funny is a poor bison living on Bullion road! :)
DeleteSorry, I don't get the joke. Brain has been fuzzy all day.
DeleteThat redoubt has already been heavily infiltrated by those, ahem, porcs. Surely he knows this. amcoms (american communists) are everywhere now. Yes, I made that acronym up, a couple years ago.
DeleteI don’t either Jim. But something tells me that it wasn’t a compliment :D
DeleteHe also sort of semi doxed you, by giving out a general location of your retreat. Not cool.
Yeah, 2:48, that's real funny. In a retarded 3rd grader kinda way.
DeleteThere's 2 type of people that frequent this site. The kind that are looking to exchange (get and give) information that may be useful to others, and the bored adolescent trolls.
The latter are spoke of here on occasion and will be a big problem in the future. The disposal of. Anybody got some extra cat 9's they'd like to contribute to the cause?
In the army engineers they have a term/method called "Tanglefoot" and a basic form of it is standard barbwire strung tightly between zig-zag vertical props about 12" above the ground. They are in the "Hasty Obstacle" category and are installed quickly in tight passage ways. Because the tanglefoot itself is not imminently deadly, they are primarily used to slow approaching foot troops, it is usually covered with small arms fire.
2:48's can be used similarly, after they are captured, gang raped by slaved minority prisoners, and then killed. Lay em down, zig zag, foot to head, covered with dead leaves and get that small arms fire in place. Some killings have built-in fun factors.
Goes with the article theme-I like it. Tripping hazards. What confuses me is why anyone not wanting to learn finds or reads me. Unless it is an older computer in a Detroit library ( are those still open? ) and can't do too many pictures or ads.
Delete5:07-nah, I post my mailing address. Can't place any blame there.
DeleteRemember, tripping hazards are ambidextrous, they work both ways and have no conscience. In the engineers we were taught to make records of everything we installed but I don't know how realistic that is in reality. Instead of barbwire you can use any sort of cordage, just make sure you secure to every vertical anchor so that if one of the zig's is broken the whole thing won't fall down.
DeleteUnless you observe it in person over time you may not be aware of the natural activity that takes place in an unmolested forest. Deadfall and natural tanglefoot is rampant. When we moved here I tried to get a handle on it but soon found it was way beyond my pay grade. So I started using some of it to my advantage. I've cut dead/rotted trees up into 2' lengths and rolled them randomly along the property lines. Covered in leaves now, they are mostly hidden and foot obstacles to intruders. Have done the same thing with cut off branches from live trees I have cut down. A 60' oak produces a huge amount of limbage. I've piled that stuff along the property lines too, as well as piled it up in various areas to create traffic patterns and obstacles. A side benefit is that those piles are a haven for all sorts of wildlife, which could come in handy in the future. And. Hard work in the forest will also mandate that you keep your schoolgurl figure. Hard physical work: eat like a bear, shit like a whale, fuck like an animal, sleep like the dead. Every. Dam. Day. lol
Damn, I was doing something wrong :) Didn't eat enough, hemmeroids and constipation, the ex barely put out and then it was trying to stay interested in humping a dead fish, and stress didn't let me sleep much. Glad the physical labor is done.
DeleteCA guy looking for a compact pistol,
ReplyDeleteCheck out the Smith & Wesson Shield in 9mm. They are still on the CA approved list until 1-1-19 which means order one immediately to beat the deadline. Who knows if S&W will renew them. Nice and thin, concealable. Some people find the grip too narrow. Fix it with the excellent Hogue grip for cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/Hogue-18400-HandAll-Sleeve-Sheild/dp/B01N9MGD1Q/ref=pd_bxgy_200_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01N9MGD1Q&pd_rd_r=37d5fe9e-fdd6-11e8-8e44-519c6d97dfe0&pd_rd_w=JMgLJ&pd_rd_wg=oHh75&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=HJ5PAS9VSTCWW5H7QGKT&psc=1&refRID=HJ5PAS9VSTCWW5H7QGKT
If you're still thinking of the revolver, I still recommend the Ruger LCR in .357. I don't think there are any "bargains" in today's handgun market. You're going to have to pay for quality.
Mr. Ghost,
The Ruger GP100 is good to go in .357. They are so sturdy, you probably can't afford enough .357 to wear it out. Much more durable than the S&W revolvers.
Peace out
Thanks for the tip. I checked that gun out and it’s reasonably priced for a Smith. I actually already have a Ruger P-95 DC 9mm. I like it, but weighs 33oz loaded. Weight is an issue for me, and the lighter the better. I’m quite familiar with the LCR, and think it’s a fine gun, but I’m not willing to pay $600, (or there abouts) for one. Any thoughts on the Taurus 605?
DeleteAt this point I am thinking that I might just get a cartridge conversion cylinder ($200) for my Colt pocket pistol (cap and ball). Minimal threat risk where I live. But of course I would not consider something such as this if I lived in a dangerous area.
Not wanting to sound like I'm trying to be smart but what about a bond arms derringer?
DeleteThanks 1:08. And yes, I have checked them out, and I like them too. But I decided that I couldn’t justify dropping $500 on a derringer, especially when the particular version that I really wanted (The .45 long colt/.410 shotshell version) is not legal here in Commiefornia. You can pick up one of those Cobra derringers at a really good price, but the reviews are not that great on them.
Delete$500 derringer=$1k I-Phone. Pure D Insanity.
Delete2:48 here
ReplyDeleteGS u left out the third kind of person the one who throws shade at someone who directed no animosity ur way.
Seems u broke one of Jim's golden rules.
And as far as doxing Jim's right,his mailing address is at the top EVERY DAY.
Seems some of u could use an injection of third grade humor.
No one wants to see this site chocked with trolls, so there was probably a bit too sharp of a response. Nothing out of line, I don't think. It can be hard to tell-but let's all please just drop it and move along. I do appreciate you not escalating it-thank you.
DeleteOK, fine. What was your point in posting this?
Delete"What's really funny is a poor bison living on Bullion road! :)"
Do you really think the address where is NOL owns a house is funny? srsly?
I always let the other guy take the first swing and I never pull my gun until I see another one. I'm the most passive creature you'll ever encounter, and the nastiest animal you'll ever piss off.
Yeah, I know that he didn’t dox you Jim, as everyone knows that your primary retreat location is no secret. But it’s kind of like taking a highlighter to it by pointing it out in the comments section, so that even the causal passerby might see it, and then it might register as “hey, free stuff”. That’s what I meant by sort of “semi-doxed you”. It wasn’t a malicious comment by any means. Though I’m gonna guess that he isn’t your biggest fan :D
DeleteI can't imagine why I'm not everyone's bestest buddy. :) Oh well, my hangup. Too needy.
DeletePoliteness and a bit of patience usually leads to valuable cooperation and a great idea of vital bit of info.
ReplyDeleteThe opposite runs off good contributors with different outlooks, like the guy in France who used to write good commentary.
I miss French Dude. He could see through Americans BS which we were oblivious to.
DeleteYeah, he was (is) a decent guy who made solid contributions.
DeleteI trust he is well