I understand that I am special and wonderful and Baby Jesus himself shines upon me- my locale is able to support underground dwellings with relative ease. Elsewhere you need a lot more engineering to be safe and snug. Of course, elsewhere they have a nifty things called trees, and by following the “$50 & Up Underground House” book by Mike O. which is a must regardless how you plan on going underground, you use trees for shoring and a bit of plastic sheeting and you pretty easily solve the issues of wet earth wanting to bury your stupid ass that failed to take into account lateral force. Going underground is cheap if you put a lot of labor into the equation, so the only excuse for not doing so if desired is that you are a worthless marshmallow who will die first thing come the collapse because you wouldn’t sell your car, buy lots of wheat with the proceeds and bike everywhere to get in great shape which is the only friggin exercise needed for the Apocalypse and all those military plans or chop suey karate fitness plans are gay and waste time. But do you desire to move underground? Now, obviously, this isn’t for a lot of people. Half the country is situated in temperate zones and it is more important to be up in the breeze than down in wet earth. Underground is for cold weather people who realize that either all the fuel will quickly be used up or that chopping down trees will kill them no matter how good of shape they are in by biking.
Living underground is generally more humid and more dusty ( and with more bugs if you don’t build half ass decent interior walls ). You can halfway compensate by being more exposed, say with a four or five sided earth shelter than totally underground. This reduces heating needs, even if not as well. But you also don’t feel like you DO live underground. This might be the needed compromise for most folks. Even the Idaho mountain man ( Great Depression era ) who I can never remember his name, seemed to favor the five sided earth shelter. The $50 Underground book also takes this approach, having the open side terraced up and away from the front door ( I’ve done the same but on a lot more narrow scale to cut down on exposure and insulation. My opening is three or four foot wide and is the bottom of the stairs ). You’ve already cut way back on costs, and now you have plenty of light coming into the structure. So, really, there are only a few minor negatives of living underground ( the conventional problem was cost since poured concrete was used ). If you build cheaply there will be an increase in dust and moisture. But if you enjoy the thirty degree difference in the summer, free of charge, and the up to seventy degree difference in the winter, near free or at least 90% cheaper, I would image you could quickly get used to it.
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I believe you might be refering to "Buckskin Billy" tho there are and were others, in my estimation he was the most renowned in Idaho.ReplyDelete
No- thats not the one. The guy that smelted his own ore for homemade flintlocksDelete
It's Sylvan Hart James. He relocated to the area prior to the great depression, as he saw it coming. In other words, he "bugged out" if you will :DDelete
He was an engineer by profession; and yes, he did blacksmith his own muzzleloader.
Ok, thats the one! Used to have the book on him-25 years ago.Delete
Folks should go look at the pictures of Mike's Oehler's underground homes. They are light and open feeling -- all done dirt cheap (get it--DIRT cheap).ReplyDelete
Mike is my Hippie Hero- couldn't have conceptualized cheap without hiumDelete
Don't forget the ballistic protection, radiation protection reduced maintenance costs, etc., etc., (according to one builder the reduced exterior maintenance alone is worth the effort of going conventional underground $ wise....)ReplyDelete
Given the current cheap cost of plastic sheeting there is NO reason not to build earth sheltered almost everywhere- even in a flood plane you could berm
yourself up a nice big hill around a raised building... Of course building inspectors zoning and HOA's can all force expensive methods of building but a small 'pantry' 'cool shed' or 'storm cellar' can escape many such busy bodies if you are careful about there rules- or better make certain your land is out of their jurisdiction (and thus a LOT cheaper....)
I personally and starting the building adventure on my remote 40 acre lot- excavation by hired machine is far too expensive (5-10 thousand easy) so we are buying a cheap version of the machine for ourselves (costing about 5-10 thousand) that we can use around the place afterward or resell in the next year or two for over half the price we paid...
With a nice hidden hill in a little hidden valley we should be able to dig out a nice south facing little 'hobbit hut' as my spouse likes to call it... And if we keep the machine it should prove quick to make other earth sheltered side buildings for what ever we need.
But if buying the machine falls through we have shovels (and old tire backs that will get older and more tired....) and plastic.
I'm trying to dig another hole half size of B-POD and boy howdy is it no where near as easy as just three years ago. Way more labor at work- no energy at home. I make fun of weaklings who can't dig themselves but if you want to get it done sometime before the collapse you might just consider the machine.Delete
With garden tiller loosen soil, shovel that out , loosenDelete
another layer of soil, shovel that out etc
I wish that were viable here with the hardpack. But others would do well with it.Delete