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Tuesday, July 10, 2018

apocalypse karma 1 of 2


APOCALYPSE KARMA
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There are so many rules for the apocalypse!  One you always hear is something along the lines of “be careful how you act during the collapse, it will come back on you”.  What I call Apocalypse Karma.  What is meant, usually, by that is if you indiscriminately snipe pedestrians 800 yards away you can’t say it was self defense and after the rule of law returns you will be judged a murderer.  Technically that is correct, but it ignores a lot of pesky details.  Such as, it is usually only illegal if you are caught.  Another is, WHO is more important than if or why.  And lastly, what do you mean, WHEN we recover?
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This kind of knee jerk prohibition is SOOOOoooo 1955.  As in, after thirty days the inhabitants of the fallout shelters ( did they have “colored only” shelters in the South? Probably not, they didn’t have any shelters at all, being mostly rural.  Another screw job from Yankees ) emerge, scrape off the topsoil to be rid of the radiation ( one assumes it is dumped in the rivers already full of industrial chemicals, kind of like Fuki is today ), run  the Stars And Stripes up the flagpole and go about their business of being The Greatest Generation.  It assumes a quick and easy recovery.  Quick being the operative word.
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But let’s start at the beginning and talk about getting caught.  It is the apocalypse.  Bullets are flying, the air conditioner won’t work and your neighbors are all falling to their knees in weakness and vomiting a lung before noisily dying.  How many neighbors are going to survive to witness you indiscriminately hosing down refugees, for little more reason than you finally got your HK-91 clone and want to test its accuracy?  Which, by the way, should be the expensive one rather than the Century Arms.  If you can’t afford an M14 and still can’t afford a PTR, odds are you can’t even afford a C308, so you might as well just mill your own AR10 and get a battle rifle for $450-$500.
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( I would ONLY recommend a HK clone for the apocalypse battle rifle if you must have a semi.  FN-FAL’s are too expensive, the M-14 is expensive and delicate, and the AR10 by all accounts share none of the good traits of the AR15.  The HK is the only weapon besides the AK that will power through the apocalypse without a gunsmith [ the AR15 is great for the spare parts availability to bypass its less than robust nature ].  The HK91 is no where close to ergonomic, is far less accurate in a relative sense, but it is bombproof.  Do NOT screw up its main attribute by buying a poorly made clone.  Buy the best clone.  I’m 90% sure I’ll be doing a book on this-not because we need one but because it has captured my interest )
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By assuming you’ll be found out, I think it follows that the assumption is also that folks will be sitting in their porch rockers keeping an eye on your activities.  If that sounds as silly to you as it does to me, who is going to rat you out?  The surviving person in the ambushed party?  It is 600 yards away, how could they identify you?  What, a member of your own group?  All you need to do is kill them as things are getting back to normal ( “dang, Carl didn’t come home-he must have run into an enemy patrol”, or how about “dang, I told Carl to stop experimenting with that methane gas” ). 
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Do you even understand why we have Death By Lethal Penile Injection in our justice system, for ANY crime?  It is to keep folks in line, to cow them into obeying the law even when no police are around.  If I wasn’t afraid of the law I’d probably have arranged a fatal car accident for the Baby Momma the day after my younger child moved out of the house.  I’d have preferred that she suffered for countless hours before expiring, but I would have accepted an early death by any means.  She is still alive because I fear retaliation. 
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This Apocalypse Karma shtick is nothing more than someone being brainwashed TODAY to self-police themselves.  To be law abiding and save the government the trouble.  They fear the Hot Lethal Monkey Love Death of AIDS through prison rape so much that they stay squeaky clean for Dig Daddy Gooberment.  I’m not judging.  That is why I stay meek and mild.  But my point is that present circumstances don’t transfer over to the apocalypse in SO many different ways.  The semi’s will run out of ammo, the fighters won’t have artillery support, there won’t be any antibiotics, you won’t have enough food, and, wait for it, there won’t be the luxury of excess energy available which means the powers that be can’t make stuff illegal just to make money.
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Our current prison system is just another money making operation, which is only viable because at the time of its inception there was surplus energy.  In a lower energy system, there are fewer laws and fewer jails.  Peace officers rather than Law Enforcement Officers are the norm.  And as long as you aren’t disturbing the peace, the system doesn’t want to jail you as this is an expense it can ill afford.  True, that means a lot more of the death sentence ( and the return of corporal punishment, just as an aside ), but it also means flimsy charges that can’t be proved are likely to not be bothered with.  If you aren’t caught red handed, and the crime hurts no one presently in power, it isn’t a crime.
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And just as you cannot judge histories actions according to current mores, you can’t judge future actions by today’s morality.  Today, if I’m gunning down border hoppers, I’m a heartless animal ( “think of the children!” ).  Tomorrow?  I could be a national hero for stemming the tide of regional overpopulation, causing a tiny bit of suffering now to avoid a LOT of suffering later ( a few murders now to avoid crime, starvation, disease and death by exposure and war in the immediate future ).  Murder today isn’t necessarily murder tomorrow ( to be clear, don’t kill illegal aliens now ).  Even killing those you could have avoided might be judged acceptable for its greater good, in the future when more pragmatism rules the courts.
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57 comments:

  1. While you are on Apocalypse Karma, just keep in mind the inverse of your premise. No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.
    Just as indiscriminate killing probably will be a bad thing, random acts of kindness could be just as deadly.

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    1. Most excellent point! Extra biscuit.

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    2. Excellent point Wrenchr2, the amount of times I've done the proverbial good dead only to have it blow up in my face... well let's just say I'm a dang slow learner.

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    3. I'll see your slow learning and raise you a Big Dumbass. I think I'd have you all beat :)

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  2. Following series. Minions should be conducting some personal mental programming to prepare themselves for the entirely new way of thinking that is required collapse and post apocalypse game times. I use little poster boards to write out some simple bullet sentences or phrases that are totally politically incorrect and scary thoughts now in these gravy days times. (Each Minion can use own selections for meanings and interpretations) I have them posted in quarters for daily/frequent reading for memory retention and subliminal programming. Doing these mental preparations and exercises now will condition a Minion to have the hard heart necessary so as to not hesitate when time to sqeeze the trigger.

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    1. I like the subliminal programming part. Spot on. Use the same technigue our overlords use to control you, to make yourself more effective.

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    2. Yes, Minions have to "FLUSH OUT THEIR HELMETS" regarding the lifetime of propaganda and p.c. programming that has burrowed into their brain housing groups and infected the subconcious thinking. If a Minion is not de-programmed beforehand or cannot rethink things collapse time, they will carry fatal flaws.

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    3. No matter how self aware you are, that subconscious programming does have an effect on your thinking.

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    4. I am programing myself by reading your blog!

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    5. Anon 7:30

      PLEASE post text of messages.

      Minions need reprogramming.

      pdxr13

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  3. When everything explodes the prisoners run free, right?
    Good thing they're not allowed to own guns.....

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    1. I'd imagine most guards are pussy's, unwilling to live with the guilt of killing the prisoners by keeping them in their cages, justifying their timidness.

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    2. Depending on the scenario I'm guessing the guards will just not turn up to work. The one's on duty will call up the Police. I don't know what happens in your area but here in Dingoland if the guards go on strike the Police fill in

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    3. Assuming the next shift doesn't show, you'd still have the last one on hand. Lock down the inmates and have a reduced shift rotation staying on site. I don't know if this is policy, or if it would be a makeshift strategy. But eventually you need to decide to release or not.

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  4. I give you a heads up, I got from a SF guy I once knew. For some reason it has never been brought up regarding the G3/HK91/CETME.

    As you may know, the scope mount that was issued with the rifle had to be fitted by a unit armorer to each rifle.

    But did you know that there was a special field armorer kit for the G3?

    Yep, it seems that the kit was a dent kit. ( can't remember the correct name he said).

    The sheet metal receiver was prone to getting dents when used out in flied exercises. They need a armorer on hand to knock the dents out or G3 kaput!

    Sold both of the HKs I had after learning this.

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    1. How the heck did this not get through to the legions of HK fanatics? This seems to be a rather important detail. Actually, considering nobody EVER mentions the Mosin Nagant has no safety bleed, I can understand it being communal willful ignorance. What did you go with in its place? I need to note this in any future discussion. Thank you.

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    2. Over pressure rounds, i.e. non nato ammo, hot hunting loads-reloads can cause the rollers to dimple bulge the rail surface in the sides of the sheet metal a bit. Just don't fall down hard on your rifle like a klutz, or throw down when surrendering to blue helmets and no worries.

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    3. Use hensoldt z24 scope with claw mount. One lever and clamps right on, always return to zero. Proper german engineering. Clean crisp glass, make shots on anything seen. Battery illuminated reticle attachment to scope is bad ass for low light, see reticle superimposed upon scumbag targets.

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    4. I thought the claw mount was the way to go.

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    5. 11:48-you can't count on handling a battle rifle with kid groves. Unrealistic. You get two hours of sleep, one meal in the last two days, stress from combat and you will stumble and make mistakes.

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  5. With HKs been as pricey as they are, who's going to use them other than range guns?

    But back in the day, when the rivers flowed from HK, I have no idea why this was never brought up. It's the same with the G3 scope mount. It was years later after they had been out that someone found out they need to be fitted to each rifle.

    Could be that no one had a real armorers manual on the rifle? Glock kept theirs under raps for a long time too.

    Plus, the G3 was never that popular of a rifle in the world.

    As for a replacement? The M1A at that time. Cheap, lots of mags and stripper clips, cheap stocks and spare parts. Easy to scope.

    Not fragile like you said. Naval sub guys used them for security and would beat the bolt open with a chunk of 2x4 when the action froze in the Antarctic.

    Nowadays? Nothing when it really comes down to it. Everything is priced to damn high and unreliable for being simple bullet launchers.

    If I was forced to get a .308?

    Either the Ruger Scout Rifle or the Ruger Precision Rifle.


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    1. Fragile being relative, only compared to the other popular 308's. This is from Boston T Party. When I say HK, I of course mean the clones. PTR is only $1k. I agree that there is really crap to pick from now. Any battle rifle you pick is going to be scarce in spares and parts soon enough, just like the Garand or Enfield or the Russian AK-like sniper. If not scarce, priced like they are.

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    2. You really can't beat the price and toughness of the Ruger products.
      Wish I still had my #1 , in 7 mag it was wicked accurate...but way too slow for follow up shots.
      Now days I want a Ruger American, best of all worlds, box fed mags and bolt action.

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    3. Be aware that the Ruger American Ranch that takes PMags is ONLY .223 not 5.56 like the older model.

      You can't close the bolt on a 5.56 round.

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    4. Well CHIT Far...that's the only reason I wanted the damn thing. Guess I don't if it won't eat 5.56 too.

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    5. Seems rather limiting. What were they thinking?

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    6. Could be PC bullshit that Walmart & Dicks insisted on ?
      They won't stock military calibers ?

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    7. I've been seeing to many fatal flaws with Ruger American Ranch rifles.

      I mean, what the hell were they thinking of NOT putting sights on the rifles. They put them on the new Ruger PC carbine.

      ????

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  6. “Do you even understand why we have Death By Lethal Penile Injection in our justice system, for ANY crime?  It is to keep folks in line, to cow them into obeying the law even when no police are around.”


    Not to mention that these days there are literally CCTV cameras all over the damn place, so it would be a miracle to commit any crime anywhere near city limits and get away with it today. Of course this assumes that you are not disguised when committing said crime, which most would not think to do, because they simply can’t comprehend what an intense surveillance state that we live in today. The most important consideration is to cover the eyes. I’m also told that the ears have rather unique identifying characteristics, so cover them as well. I don’t anticipate that the cameras will stay rolling too long after the collapse, but you never know.

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    1. And by 2020 all the driver license's will have face recognition profiling.

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    2. The photo equip does now. Every so often police/dmv bags people doing identity fraud attemptes to get i.d. in someone else name. It is why the photos on license seem "off" from real image.

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    3. 12:49 here. I’ve seen videos where LEO surveillance software would scan a huge crowd, and within seconds, identify a targeted individual. The software detects a circumference around the eye for up to a few inches or more, so you have to wear the really wide sunglasses that you see some people wearing in order to foil it (And once again, don’t forget the hat, to cover the ears).

      I mentioned the city limits, but you will be facing the same surveillance cameras at the trailheads or parking lots of state parks or national forests as well. So you’re only safe in the deep woods, and even then you have to watch for the “eyes in the sky” when out in the more open areas. My understanding is that the cover of conifers (I’m pretty sure it’s conifers, but double check) has properties that foil the infrared signature that you emit on some level, so that’s good info to know. Most satellites are in a specific region in the sky, so in some cases, you can use the terrestrial landscape to block your view from them.

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    4. Unfortunately, I think this kind of info will be on the final test :(

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  7. Factor in above thoughts with the new collapse/post apoc paradigm. Grab battlefield pick ups even if red headed step child gear. Use or trade later. Keep spares in truck, stashed in shed/garage. Put with cached food and gear, etc. Keep an eye out for gov't facilities and transport vehicles with equipment aquisition opportunities in mind.

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    1. For folks who love to shop and hoard now, just wait for after the apocalypse! :)

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  8. Unless you are completely only there will rules. Probably simpler and definitely different, but rules nonetheless. I imagine the punishment will be more harsh if caught.

    JeSteR

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    1. And I think folks will respond favorably to it. Simple is good.

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  9. I've heard there are at least 6.5 mil variants of AR15's out there and half again in spare parts. So if you're lucky with your .303 you may end up with one afterall!

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    1. I'm sure if I swing a dead cat I'll hit an AR, soon enough.

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  10. Regarding mindset after a collapse, I find reading about warrior cultures useful bits of history lessons for other ways the world might work. For most of human history brutality toward outsiders was very much accepted and killing, torture, enslavement was pretty commonplace and accepted. That, plus survivors get to write the story however they choose.

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    1. Winners rewriting history. Just had a video on the mass starvation of German POW's in French/US camp right after the war. I'm sure its an interesting rabbit hole. I'll try to find it again.

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    2. Here it is:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKGQ65guU3o&t=776s

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  11. I think there will be a lot of vendetta killings. People with scores to settle actively looking for who did them a perceived injustice. I personally will hole up till they weed each other out. Yesterday I commented on my mostly Russian collection and am looking for another 7.62-39 rifle. Someone mentioned a ruger bolt that will and I thank them and your blog for the solution to my problem.

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    1. Minions make me look a lot smarter.

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    2. I haven't handled one personally, but the Ruger American rifles are less expensive than the Ruger M77 series. The American rifle has more plastic in it, specifically, some of the rear portions of the bolt are plastic (so I've heard) and may present durability issues. You might like the CZ527 in 7.62x39 for old world craftsmanship.
      Peace out

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    3. Plastic on a hunting rifle. Yeh, that outcome writes itself.

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  12. My thoughts on long range shooting of unknowns...
    Since all rules about morality, religion etc have derived from man's feeble little brain. Then absolutely nothing will change about those said rules. So long as there are other men to enforce rules.
    You can expect to get, what you give. To indiscriminately shoot anyone within range, will likely end up biting you in the ass. Never knowing if that person you plugged at three hundred yards, had others in their party which observed you shooting their buddy. Expect retribution for your actions.

    I think a moral person can make the proper choice. The wise man will let them pass...never knowing you were there.
    The fool , will shout out with his mighty AR, announcing, here I am...
    The wise , will know when to shout or maybe not...

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    1. If you are enforcing territorialism, I can think of scenarios where unknowns are shot. Think of the guerrilla ambushing to create fear upon returning to area. It isn't a question of morality but tactics/strategy.

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    2. This scenario you speak of O Lord Bison. Might fall under discretion depending on whether they advance toward discovery or will pass never having discovered
      Your POD.
      If you must, then silent means are best used for two or less. Never know if the advancing group has trailers.

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    3. Granted. You must stay flexible. But in case your group has decided to clense the area regardless of cost, by definition innocents are going to be killed. That was more my point, which I didn't make clear. Tactically it might not make sense but strategically it does. There might be times it makes sense to be flexible tactically. Never fight against your strengths. Yet, at times if you let the camels nose under the tent things get worse. Sometimes you need to avoid the beachhead.

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    4. This is the realm of PA fiction, but for a group attempting to defend a region against infiltration, but also not wanting to wholesale slaughter relatively innocent travelers, you could post routes as "safe corridors" with "Lethal Force Authorized By Post Commander" signs every 25 feet off of the road. Another way is to escort disarmed groups from one side of your land to another (with a small toll, natch'). This is PA/militia fiction because of the manpower and resource drain. More realistic is turn-away signs enforced by ambush along the way by locals who will make up a self-defense story as the only version of events (if a story is needed). Locals get to keep 2/3rd of the loot (with an obligation to maintain the road and dispose of debris in a sanitary manner) after gifting the local warlord with 1/3rd. Even Nagan wants half, so this is a fine deal.

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    5. Let's not be greedy. 20% is less than even the lowest state tax burden right now. Let's help folks enjoy the apocalypse.

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  13. Hate to disagree. But prisons now are already sources of extra cheap labor, it wont take but a little while of collapse to see all those strong backs (actually a lot have disabilities) and dull wits in a prison and see them as a new labor pool to replace the lack of heavy equipment (AKA slavery). The prisoners will be back to breaking rocks, digging ditches, etc, and will be reimbursed with their crust of bread when it is available. Picture Boss Hogg the mayor and judge - "hey boy, you done good to keep out them Yankees but since murder is illegal and I can no longer imprison them for their violations (and make use of their labor) I guess I will have to imprison you-all (and make use of your labor)".

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    1. The cost of security is the killer I think. Now, placing them in special military units, that might be more cost effective.

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