ZOMBIE APOC WEAPONS BOOK 4
Chapter One ( Rifle ) continued
For almost ten solid years ( prior, my writing was irregular ) before price increases I made my case to you how the WWII surplus bolt action rifles were superior in every way to your pathetic sheet metal and plastic abominations. They were made so much better, they were so much cheaper and by gum they were bolt action creamy goodness. And what did I hear? Sad Panda, used. Oh my, not a common caliber. Sweet Baby Jesus, not semi-auto. Why, without semi-auto we shall all die and perish. Without a common caliber we'll have to pay-The Horror, The Horror-25% more for the ammo. And worse, the very pinnacle of unacceptable, zero range bragging rights!
I told you, I pleaded with you, I made my case from different angles, surplus bolties are the best! No one listened ( minions who did, award yourself two biscuits. The rest of you, yeah, sorry, I have it on good authority your non-participation awards are coming by slow boat. From China. As soon as trade resumes ). And now, you cannot buy the best rifle ever produced, the Lee-Enfield no4. I mean, you COULD. If you want the bottom of the barrel beat to crap at collector prices ( the days of “hand select, $20 extra” are long gone. And even buying what no one else wanted, I still got about a 50% “highly problematic, use for spare parts” rate in my picks ).
They were used, and from the very beginning worth about what you payed, $75-$125. Now that want $600, starting. I love me some French Fried Enfields, ah hah, but NOT at those prices. For $600, that rifle better come with some monthly oral pleasure. The second choice could be a Mauser, if you find one in decent shape. They are accurate, but glass sights are problematic and I need peep sights if iron, which these aren't. But the Mauser is sure as Hell MUCH better than the worlds worst rifle ever made outside the Austrian-Hungary Empire, the Mosin-Nagant.
I do not care that the thing had a bolt as easy to manipulate as a rusted cog in a seawater soaked machine. I do not care that they were longer than a politicians nose. I don't even, really, care that usually the bayonet sucked. Or the fact that vodka saturated peasants on Monday's had little incentive to manufacture a safe weapon. The DESIGN is what always had my panties in a bunch. Let us travel to yesteryear, in 1890, when all the major powers were perfecting their smokeless powder magazine fed rifles. Because primers, and to some extent powder, was far from the perfected product that we would see forty years later, ammunition was far more unstable than what we consider normal.
It was not unheard of that cases ruptured and primers could explode the cups. So the fine gentlemen at Mauser and Enfield both designed their rifles with a gas safety bleed. Any explosive malfunction was directed AWAY from the users face. The Mosin-Nagant? Nah! “It'll Be Fine!” And you can't even blame the communists who were still twenty years away from making everything worse with committees and Gretchen Panels Of Inquiry. If you own and operate a Mosin-Nagant, you'll probably be fine ( don't use steel case. These rifles were designed back when chamber tolerances were not so fine. You need the brass case swelling for a seal ). Probably.
But what happens when you start running out of factory reloading components and start using cottage industry ammunition? I grant you, when I first started plugging the surplus guns twenty-five years ago, I had a heck of a long life span ahead of me and that was a real concern. Now, it would only be a concern for your kids or grandchildren. But do you hate them that much? Now, if you already own the guns, well, you just do the best with what you have, where you're at. This isn't a call to change your arsenal. Not at this late date ( unless you have the money to burn, a guaranteed access to ammunition and no other pressing hobbies ).
I'm just covering this material for the sake of your education. What if, say, you have a neighbor that just armed the whole family with AR's, and offered you first crack at his Mosin-Nagant collection ( the mail order Russian bride didn't work out, so he had to settle on a dainty waif of an American wife, unable to handle the weight or recoil of the things ). You never know, right? Or, your shooting buddy finally upgraded to the AK and needed some extra cash for his spray and pray and tries to sell you his Mosin's. Should you take them? If I didn't have any bolts, and I could get them under the current insane price of $350, I might.
You should read the article by C.E. Harris titled “The Load”. There are also some YouTube videos. Basically you take Red Dot powder with its extra volume to safely fill up a rifle case, and use a cast pistol round so that you are firing a carbine round out of full thirty cal rifles ( using the larger cases, so there is no chamber insert to buy ). The great thing about the Red Dot is that it is up to 30% cheaper than rifle powder. A few pounds and the $20 bullet mold is paid for. Now you have much less pressure in your case, and you can buy a lot more reloading components. That should both make the Mosin less dangerous and kick the can down the road before you must use unsafe components.
I know, that does not address the negatives of bolt action surplus rifles I first noted. Don't you fret your pretty little heads about that. My rebuttal is coming, oh yes. It is coming. Tremble, puny earthlings, for you shall weep in shame at your emotionally charged misinformed views, which were displayed before all and sundry to see, hopefully to your chagrin.
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I think that the last halfway decent deal that I saw on surplus bolts, was from the sportsman’s guide, and that was quite a while back now. Every so often, they would offer surplus Mauser's. They were re-chambered for a more common caliber, and I’m pretty sure they were pre-1898, so you could buy them right through the mail, no hassles.ReplyDelete
I’ve never been a semi guy, personally. Though I can see how having one in certain circumstances could be advantageous. I hear tell that Ned Beatty never goes camping anymore without one (Well, that, and an anal chastity belt :D )
Another Rawles Orange Man Check Option-$1200 MIGHT buy you a beat to crap bottom of the barrel pre-1898 gun from his company. I don't think I saw much under two grand, but you might get "lucky".Delete
Right, and that is a pretty faggotry way to go the route of buying in to those guns and follow on needed kit, nowadays with collapse ongoing, into some wine and cheese gun/ammo eccentrics just so you can be highbrowed about being an antiquarian gun collector and >above< regulations. Jeezus weeps. If that much of a putz, as demonstrated, stay off the friggin grid with that contamination of mealy mouthed dissemination.Delete
Yes. Jim is correct on the mosin nagants. That bleed hole is a necessity, especially military arms. Because.Delete
They all have ragged bores from cleaning rod grating the rifling at the muzzle like a cheese grater. They have to be back bored internally near an inch depth to find enough lands and grooves to stabilize even their sucky bullets enough for their red kerchief wearing young pioneers to qualifying standards. Then consider metalurgy heat treating standards of a command economy run by communists with drinking problems, and of course the prior battered wife like abuses that a comrade gun endured over decades. Hmm? A BTN butter knife starting point yes, but like a skanky wrench woman opportunity, best to pass it off. Stay frostiest with those "be best" bolt guns.
I'm sorry, but don't socialist utopias breed perfect humans? I have to differ with you on the cadres poor equipment handling standards. If you lived in AOC's district, this would be clearer to you. Or, we could call Greta over for consultation.Delete
9:32-seems a hugely cheaper way would be to buy the AR pour kits. Even if you screwed up four out of five, your ghost gun still only costs $700. Heck, buying the machine with 80% and software to mill it automatically is cheaper, and delivers more than one weaponDelete
On the ragged bores in old bolt guns. I have a Mauser that my uncle sent home from Germany back after the end of WW2. and an A3O3 Springfield that my father sporterized. I had started to reload for both of them and not wanting to seat the bullet where it could get into the lands I made up 2 cases where I split the neck and put a bullet where it would just stay in the case and then loaded both of the cases. Neither one touched the lands of the rifling what so ever. The 8mm is a 1.5 min of angle gun and the springfield is a sub min of angle gun both at 100 yards. They do both have perfect looking bores and the crowns are both good as well.Delete
Lord Bison, I am very much in agreement in the bolt vs. semi debate, but sadly having been born a mutant (left handed) surplus bolts were never an option for me. I do have a left handed .22 bolt Ive had since the early 80s and Ive been on the fence in regards to buying a new lefty bolt in a more substantial caliber such as a .308 or 6.5 Creedmore but good grief, the cost is astronomical! And on top of that Im the only lefty left in the family, so that makes it an extremely specialized and expensive tool... Now I'm leaning more toward lever action 30-30 carbines. They've got their issues too, but at least their more or less ambidextrous. I feel pretty well squared away on arms and ammo with the exception of a "large game" rifle. Worst case, Ive got the 12ga. slugs, but I still think a solid rifle above 5.56 that the whole tribe can run would be a wise choice.ReplyDelete
Did you read my article on the AR boltie? Ambidextrous, cheap.Delete
October 4, 2019 article, here:Delete
I must have missed the ambidextrous part, though my overall impression of the AR bolt conversion was that you weren't all that thrilled with it. Nonetheless, Ive got an AR, and standard (right handed) bolt in 5.56 so I'm satisfied with that caliber. For now anyway...Delete
Reply to jl. I too am left handed and handle bolt actions pretty well, if I do say so myself. The biggest problem I run into is with black powder rifles,percussion cap fragments coming back in the face is no fun.Delete
30-30 isn't bad, but the one I had kicked back AND down at the same time. Not a huge problem, but definitely different.
Hard to go wrong with a 12 gauge, I am a big fan of the single shots that can be easily converted to black powder if need be. I even learned to fire them off hand, so my shoulder injury isn't a big problem. Not something I trust a rifle to do, you really need a cheek weld with them.
Jl, I too am a lefty. Been shooting closer to 50 years than i care to admit. Yes a bolt action is easier for a right handed person but over the years i have developed my technique and am almost as fast as a righty. Your left hand is your trigger hand and remains on the pistol grip of the stock instead of on the for stock as a righty. Develop the strength to support the rifle in the ready position as you bring the right hand back to cycle the bolt. A bit harder to stay on target but doable. I toyed with a lefty 22 mag and wish I had bought it but it felt very awkward after shooting right hand rifles for years.Delete
JL-I'm not thrilled with the AR itself. It will do, it's serviceable. It has its own problems but enough attributes to negate the negatives. As a bolt, it sucks, yes. You're fighting the recoil spring. I'll make it work. A few more months, I could sell the lot for big bucks. But what am I going to do with paper cash? Might as well use it for the intended purpose ( besides the failed Ghost Gun ) of light weight, light recoil, heavier combat ( with quicker loading ) during the die-off. Then return to a better weapon.Delete
Right handed bolt operation from the left shoulder...Delete
If you are right handed and need to shoot from the left side of cover, OR, if you are left handed normally, the switch is seamless with no reduction in bolt speed once you practice. You can use the Lee Enfield "mad minute" bolt technique with almost any bolt action design (except the Mosin Nagant) right or left handed. If you're right handed, mount the buttstock on your shoulder like normal, right hand on the grip OR the bolt knob, and left hand on the fore end. Then, to shoot from the left side of cover, or if you're left handed, simply switch shoulders. DO NOT SWITCH HAND FUNCTIONS. Your buttstock is now in your left shoulder, left hand on the fore end, and right hand running the bolt. Same hand operation, different shoulders ONLY. This may seem awkward at first, but go through a bunch of dry firing and rapid shoulder switching for coming up in different locations from behind cover after reloads and it will feel normal. A shorter buttstock is helpful when shooting from the left shoulder with right handed bolt operation.
the load. lolReplyDelete
this poorly written article was a load.
I think you should delete posts from the punisher. He does not add anything to the discussion. Why reward bad behavior?Delete
The problem is, that is a slippery slope to censorship. Before you know it I'm only surrounded by Yes Men, and we are all smelling our own farts in tiny rooms. As long as he doesn't drop N Bombs are get way too rude with other minions, his views are welcome. Well, if not welcome, better than the alternative.Delete
@5:28AM. Yeah, it can be frustrating, but trolls like punisher don’t really bother me, and I actually kinda think they’re funny. Jim’s old blog (I think it was the James M Dakin blog?) was troll central. Here at this site, we have a way worse troll than punisher, that posts here, and apparently, I’m the only one that can spot him? I won’t drop any names, because I don’t want to cause any messy flame-wars for Jim, but yeah, this dude is something else. Every time this cocksucker posts here, he takes vicious pot shots at the folks in fly over country (knowing full well that this is the primary survivalist demographic). The astonishing part? He totally gets away with it, and know one calls him out on it???? Apparently, he’s just subtle enough to fly under the radar.Delete
I wish Blogger had a block feature, but no such luck. There’s at least two people that post here, who’s posts I have to constantly dodge (The one troll mentioned above being one of them) because they’re just too painful to read. Fortunately, both of them post under a username, so they’re easy enough to spot and avoid.
The first blog, 2006-2012. That is why it isn't online anymore-I kept getting flagged for all the N-Bombs and other disagreeable comments. I pull the plug or I would have lost Blogger. That is the only reason I moderate.Delete
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At least he didn't wake you up inside the Turd like the (?) raccoon did. LOLDelete
Thank you for that C.E. Harris article on 'The Load'. Hey, maybe a good way to finally get some mileage out of that 7.7 Japanese Arisaka bolt rifle thats sat alone all this time. Long ago purchased a chamber insert sleeve from Ace Dube to convert it to 7.62x39 but just sat on it. This is a better alternative, IF I can find the .311 bore bullets that fit it. Factory ammunition is off the chart expensive.ReplyDelete
For you lefties above, Dad was a leftie too and confined himself to lever actions (Winchester - Marlin - Savage 99) for his center fire uses. He did have a Remington 788 left hand bolt action, but the recoil from that bothered him a bit.
Hope this helps.
The Jap and Russian and Brit ammo is same-same. The bullets aren't very cheap, which is why I have a mold, BUT, here is the best priced one I've see at 13cents each for factory bullets:Delete