Sunday, May 19, 2019

calorie fuel 2


CALORIE FUEL 2
The two primary calorie studies were the Nazi’s studying Jewish slave labor and the American Fascists duplicating that study with “volunteers” ( conscientious objectors ).  Sometimes I got the feeling that our study was really just ripping off the German study, but not admitting it.  That could have simply been camouflage to hide Operation Paperclip.  You know, national security as the Cold War commenced.  At first blush, these studies seem benign.  After all, the Nazi’ wanted correct information.  How long can we keep our laborers alive, to determine how many calories to feed our “machines”?
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The problem is of course that the victor wrote the history books.  Was this REALLY why the Germans actually conducted the test? Was there actually a test, or did we do our own test, then claim there was an evil Nazi test?  I’ll remind you that there are far more questions about the Holocaust than the powers that be want to admit, or even allow you to ask about ( sorry, but if you criminalize questioning the official narrative, I automatically do so because the truth shouldn’t need defending ).  Was the starvation experiments just another false flag story, like the human lampshade stories?
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Did we get the calorie figures from evil Japanese experiments, yet couldn’t admit it ( Top Secret national security sources )?  Or, would admitting it disclose our complicity in not rescuing our POW’s or something similar?  You have to keep in mind that American Fascism and German Fascism is close to the same thing.  One of the few differences is that they had a national bank run for and by the government and our bank is Rothschild’s run.  There is a BIG difference.  Economically.  But not too much politically.  In both, citizens give their life at the whim of the state, for the security of the state. 
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But both need the consent of the people, as does any type of political system.  The government is better served keeping its iron fist covered in velvet.  All the above seem like silly little paranoid dramas, but you have to look at them in the context of the time they were created.  We have to question the validity of the tests, because too much was cloaked in politics and secrecy and propaganda.  Motives are questionable.  But even if everything was above board, if the American-centric view is correct, can we trust Evil Nazi Scientists to be free of anti-Juden bias?
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As I said, there seems to be little to be gained by falsifying data.  The Germans benefited by knowing the exact number of calories they needed to keep a laborer alive ( I don’t believe the Nazi’s had the excess energy to waste on Jewish extermination, just for its own sake.  It misappropriated vital wartime resources.  But to kill them off as slave labor?  That I can buy ).  It helped determine troop rations, as a for instance.  But the fact that the figures don’t work today needs explaining.
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Either there was a reason for data being wrong, or the Germans just screwed up the experiments.  Today, we know that the numbers are highly suspect.  A 100 pound women can survive without health issues on far below 1500 calories a day.  Some males of equal weight but different body types need more calories or less for the same work.  Different kinds of calories outperform or underperform others.  Some people have a problem eating beef, others get a much better performance on the same amount of calories from beef than from chicken.  Some people thrive on vegetarianism or lacto-vegetarianism.
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Not all pregnant women conceive on the same diet or body fat ratio.  I suspect that the Nazi experiments, assuming they happened, were simply rushed.  And they were based on rudimentary early knowledge.  That data could have been flawed.  The Germans were really advanced in some areas but not in others.  Despite having a system designed to produce innovation, there was also only so many resources available for so many things to be done.  All figures by definition are suspect.  That said, having no other data, we can use them to some positive effect.
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They are, again, useful guidelines.  When I pass on the 1500 calories a day figure as a base survival diet, you have to understand that not all bodies are exactly the same ( another issues that comes into effect is the century plus long feminist/communist quest to deny biology and discount gender and race differences, skewing all studies.  Some races did evolve into different bodies biased towards local foods.  Men build muscle but women build fat-those differences are ignored but shouldn’t be ).  Skinny women and kids MIGHT not need as many calories.  Or, at other times, they might. 
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Some body types need three thousand calories for hard labor, others only two thousand.  You need less calories in meat than if in grains.  Grains and dairy perform better than beans and grains, and the caloric values might be different.  A potato and meat diet will act differently than a meat and grain one.  Some body types need less pregnancy calories than others.   Variables out the wazoo, so, yes, when you try to generalize you are in effect setting yourself up for some failures.  The best thing to do would be to experiment on yourself.  Then change your survival stockpile accordingly.
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No one wants to hear that. They want to read, “two MRE’s a day keeps you combat effective”.  But the calorie figures I tell you are merely One Size Fits All generalized numbers.  Hell, they don’t even fit ME.  I can do heavy labor on as little as two thousand calories, but that has to be heavy on oil and whole grain ( which is why I’m comfortable stocking butter rather than meat ).  I give the figure of three thousand calories a day for sustained combat.  Most historical data supports that ( rations ideally were a pound of meat and two of bread for many armies ).
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That figure might be high or low for you personally.  You might need a smidge more than 1500 calories a day, just sitting around.  But it is close enough to include everyone.  Your body, if optimally run ( exercise, hydrated, only whole foods ), will have its own figure ( don’t forget to factor in the calorie dampening effect of living in climate control ).  I wish it were simpler.  I wish there were absolutes.  But like most other things in life, always apply healthy doses of skepticism to “common wisdom”. 
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21 comments:

  1. Good points Jim. a vast number of the die off casualties will be those 'directions readers' who are prissy taste bud sensitive to begin with (picky and high fructose corn syrup dope addicts) and dorkly focus on the cooking instructions difficulty level of that packaged food. Any and all packaged or processing intensive foods can not be reliably used as a barometer for fuel and useful calorie tabulations. Minionites are encouraged to have a full (old school) kitchen workshop type set ups to be their own proper food departments. Almost total field to table infrastructure, to control quality and have knowledge of food types for storage, best prep and cook methods, and its energy/fuel quantity contents and complimentary attributes along with other base ingredients. Skill set wise, a good skilled old school "cookie" (like on cattle drives, or house mothers) that can whip up food scratch like well will be body guarded and looked after better than the squad medic or radioman, due to value to the unit / tribe.

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    1. A good cook not only has value to a group ( only sex has more motivation ) morale wise, you yourself get the same type of value.

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  2. Right. Food numbers of calories, fats, cholesterol, etc, are statistically variable and guidelines in general. Everyone will need there own master formula for their body type, age, work loads, etc. A stasis minimum daily calorie number to live by is o.k. for an isolated prisoner in solitary confinement. Collapsing systems and society, attacking offensive apocalypse, and spazzing out tribe members will require much more stress foods to power up for action and clear thinking.(just cause a car will "idle" for a long time on very little fuel remaining in the tank, does not mean it is wise to run around on the last eighth of tank capacity like a lot of dipstick people do anyway, and expect pressing the pedal performance when 'desired or as needed') plan accordingly.

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    1. In a magical thinking universe, doesn't that gas tank fill up as desired? Unicorns, come take me away!

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  3. re:
    "The Holocaust©"

    Bison,
    You and I share skepticism about the claim about the Germanic tribes diverting scarce resources from defending their territory into massive transportation to massive enclaves of their neighbors, then continuing to divert increasingly scarce resources into defending those communities while enduring around-the-clock airborne bombings from "The Allies©".

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    I grew-up on a farm, my four grandparents lived next door. All us kids were home-schooled by a couple dozen aunts and uncles and our extended family, including engineers, building contractors, professional musicians, and independent business owners / operators. Many careers overlapped.

    My eighth birthday present was a complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica of 1932. In it, according to the 1930 European census, I read the total Europeans claiming to be persons of the jewish religion == 132,000 (one-hundred thirty-two thousand).

    I read someplace the squatters in Palestine by 1948 was 158,000 persons of the jewish religion.

    Tragically, the other 6,000,000 perished in "The Holocaust©", because between 1930 and 1945, European persons of the jewish religion managed to produce and grow into adulthood approximately 4,260 persons of the jewish religion per week. If true, those were the most reproducing humans in the history of this particular planet. If true, they accomplished all that during "The Great Depression©", during the worst economic collapse prior to 2008, during street murders by The Brownshirts©, during business and property forfeiture to their neighbors.

    If true. I remain skeptical.

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    1. Just like 9/11, you don't have to be correct about alternate views. Just HAVING an alternate view is good enough. I don't WANT to be skeptical or cynical. I would love to have historians actually report, you know, history. It takes a lot of extra effort to fight the propaganda. But it serves a purpose. If you can't be skeptical of Must Thinks such as Gore Warming, the Holocaust or 9/11, we cannot question "200 years of fracking" or similar matters that directly effect us right now. Thank you for the encyclopedia numbers. I had no idea. Outstanding.

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  4. ...and here's the pitch..the swing..CRACK! It's going, going.. center field wall..and it's GONE!
    Yes, ladies & gents, boys & girls you too have been treated to another Bison League homer.

    Interesting bit about calorie calcs I picked while researching colonial history of Barbados. Aristos, who had supported Charles II while in exile, (his dad, King Charlie I, had head lopped of in 1649 leading to CW) sought depopulation of formerly almost 100% white yeomanry in Barbados. They wanted to turn island into a slave based sugar plantation purely for export. They calculated how many calories ($ cost) needed for slave colony versus revenue generated by sugar.... We know how that calculation came out.

    FYI lots of whites from Carolinas are actually descendents of those yeoman farmers dispossessed by Royal edicts and Aristos strangelhold over Barbados and importaion of African slaves. Those yeoman mostly came to Carolina but some went to Jamaica. My ancestors (shallop ship owners) collected "headrights" (land parcels in lieu of cash) for arranging transport to Carolinas.
    A similar calorie calculation was done in late 18th C just as Industrial Rev geared up in Mother England. "Scientist" were tasked with calculating profits of newly urbanized workers in the mills and steel factories in Midlands. The whole idea of "taking tea" was based on extractable work from sugar and caffeine (tea) that could be rung out of them at least cost

    Hmmmm! Let's think about that shall we...sugar, caffeine, fat (cream). Do we know of any culutural/dietary changes in last 30 years involving wholesale adoption of those 3 ingredients? Just add tatted up baristas, ditch the porcelain for cardboard cups and POOF! Seattle births a phenomenon.

    The play never changes only the cast of actors.

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    1. Ha! I knew all about the working English poor being largely fueled by sugar for the first factories. I did NOT parallel that with the Starhucksters addiction paradigm. Good call!

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  5. Aw, just go online and order your prepackaged meal entre's direct shipped to your hermitage doorstep. Follow instructions to cook up the pre thought out portioned items. Share loving forkfulls of said meals with your domestic partner while standing around the smart appliances in the kitchen and hold conversations with the androided speaker connection to internet. Or, place orders to corporate retail food service outlets and have stranger delivery of yummy food brought to your compound. Perfect, no worries.

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    1. "Alexa, please order me SoyLent Green menu #3" :)

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  6. So, pbs is playing ken burns civil war series today. Of note, yes it is true american cities were under seige, by American forces. They were going hungry, extreme privations, eating dogs etc as well. So I guess Jim's imperative of food and calories is very apt, here in 'Merica as has been a fact. Good job Jim..........

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    1. As I understand it, Burns series on Vietnam seems to have towed the "benign empire" line. Would you say his Civil War series is less so, or about the same? I've seen neither.

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    2. It was done 25 years ago so it is kinda pre social justice, virtue signaling, rewriting of history manipulator offenders period. Kinda nuetral in perspectives of narration writing. They didn't have to spread the butt hurt salve on the baby boomers broke asses after the vietnam defeat. I only glean my survivalist tips and info from any news or documentaries anyhow. Just eyes and ears vacuum up useful intelligence for personal usage applications.

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    3. Perhaps I'll try it. I believe it is on Netflix. As soon as I hear "save the slaves", I'm bailing.

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  7. There's a really simple way of determining how many calories you need. If you are gaining weight you are getting too many. If you are losing weight, you aren't getting enough.

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  8. When I completed basic I was 155 lbs and my mother said I looked like a concentration camp survivor. At permanent party in a high energy combat arms unit in Wildflecken Germany I leveled out at 180 and stayed there til about 1995 when I was 40. My eating didn't change at that point but some how I started gaining weight. Yes, I was getting older, but that alone couldn't account for the drastic shift. I suspect the quality of food was changing. Over the next 24 years it has continued to change. Monsanto, GMO, wood chips, etc., it isn't food any more and it's not completely digestible so it stores. Because the quality of the food has plummeted the nutritional value has dropped and the amount of food that used to fill you up no longer does, so you have to eat more. More frankenfood means more storage.

    You have to break that cycle of deception and health problems. You have to seek and find better quality of foods. Better quality food costs more but you eat less. The problem comes in finding the good food in the first place. Better quality food is easier to find the farther you get away from urbania. But you still have to have proven connections and that's not easy to come by unless you live close to the sources.

    If 3000 calories per day is the standard, and that is based upon standard grocery store food you are eating more and getting less. If you eat better quality food you need far less than 3000 calories per day. I know this to be true first hand. Not only is Ruralville better for your mind it is also better for your body.

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    1. I don't know if I'd place the Fake Food as early as 95, but that is just a quibble. Nothing to disagree with-except SOME body types/lifestyles will consume those calories or more, even "real" calories.

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  9. Two things - non food grade plastic containers. Are they OK to use to store food *IF* the food is in say cans / packed in vacuum packs / in the plastic sleeves (2 minute noodles)?


    Second - I worked for a factory providing diet food plans. 1,200 calories a day for women, 1,500 for a man. This was their standard for weight loss for fatties and people would stay on this for ages as a lifestyle. I don't know if those that stayed on it was just a survivor bias.

    I think those numbers are a good ball park.

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    1. Food containers-I don't know if you'd want to put plastic inside a container that used to hold pesticide or something. Mylar bags-perhaps. Metal cans should be fine. If they are new, never used, just not "food grade", I'd have no problem putting all three in.

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  10. forgot to mention

    buckwheat

    in my list of scarcity staples.

    sry.

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