Tuesday, May 26, 2015

more guns 2


MORE GUNS 2

Even if I didn’t want to go for the perfect rifle, the HK, there are still better options than my current choice of Lee-Enfields ( they are NEAR perfect, or were before their prices exploded, but if you plan your arsenal around ammo rather than guns, not so much ).  For those on a budget, the single shot break open rifles are nearly perfect for a survival budget.  For the price of a single AR or AK, you can get two or three single shots.  If you get one in 223, one in 762x39 and one in 308, you can eliminate most ammo problems.  You can buy on sale, or pilfer from the dead under most any collapse scenario.  Yet, I stick with the Enfields.  I have my beloved bayonets, and my beloved ergonomics and battlefield reliability, but suffer ammo supply and accuracy.  Not that the singles aren’t problem prone.  Every gun has trade-offs.  But the question is, why don’t I “trade up”?  I might not, now, currently, have the money, but I certainly did in the past many times.  So, what gives?  Simply, I think the preoccupation with the perfect survival gun is misleading and counterproductive.  By continuing to think about upgrading, you are buying into the view that you have time.  You buy into the Druid Dude worldview that cataclysms don’t happen overnight.  Not that I deny he has a certain point.  The odds are against an instant collapse.

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Which is why I don’t condone debt.  You can’t count on the bankers going away so there is no collection.  Yet, the odds we are calculating are those using historic data, and we have never had an Industrial Age before since we never had petroleum to fuel one before.  The collapse will be similar, but different.  Different in that for the first time, we don’t have a decentralized organic agriculture infrastructure globally ( we had isolated areas dependent on imported food, or similar to today circumstances, but never on a global scale ).  Even as the rest of the globe carries on with less fuel, some areas are going to be in Dark Age circumstances.  At the very best, best case scenario, total economic collapse will be seen.  So either way, you have no industrial goods to trade for.  Preppers see limited brigandage and limited economic impact.  I see vast tracts of settlement triaged out of the global trading system, left to degenerate into the fabled 90% die-off.  For those areas, the end will be nigh.  Total collapse.  Why are you betting your area is immune? 

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Granted, no one is suggesting I get rid of my old arsenal to trade up, but rather to buy better and use the old to fall back on.  But the way I look at things, money will be going away soon, and I’m trying, now, to limit my need, desire or lust for it.  I’m trying to limit my wish for writing income ( a different article ), as well as my lust for upgrading to anything else such as location, dwelling, arsenal or whatever.  It is a mindset, and if I make exceptions, such as for an arsenal, even if they make sense, I lose the battle to acquire the mental outlook.  It takes exercise, not excuses.  Making do, doing without and improvising.

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15 comments:

  1. I am to old, to blind, to hunt large game any longer and I am not crazy enough to get into it with armed military style units so I don't see the need for anything in the way of a rifle. I have a 8 shot pump action 12 gauge I named "kindness". I have a nice 10 shot Ruger with extra clips. I am dangerous as hell up close. At a distance, I am invisible. I agree with single shots. I own a single shot 22LR with a interchangeable 410 barrel perfect for small game hunting in the desert.

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    1. Even in the desert, woods guns work, with your limitations/skills

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  2. The main issue to me is cost vs what else I could buy. That rifle costs the same as a 300 gallon rain barrel, and the ammo and accessories cost a year's worth of food. Yet I still want to buy the rifle, and will try to talk myself into why the gun is justified. It takes willpower to be prudent.

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    1. The What Else I could Buy is a never ending list. Damn frugal survivalism

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  3. I am not sure, but on the single shot rifle,I think you can buy one complete rifle, and add interchangeable barrels of different calibers.

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    1. Not sure if you save much money- and with three you have redundancy in case of breakage

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  4. Another super-example of "when you need this xxxxxxx, you need to GTFO" with a double-dose of revelation because it's in the NYT as a topic of polite conversation that your wife might have with her curious-paniked GF's, not like a Minuteman II silo converted to a mentally-unstable retreat man-cave in Eastern MT.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/26/nyregion/still-secret-and-secure-safe-rooms-now-hide-in-plain-sight.html?_r=1

    pdxr13

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    1. If every reader donated a mere $10k, I could get a silo retreat. Talk amongst yourselves and let me know.

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    2. That doesn't sound like a discussion!

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    3. K K K K K K K K K K. Theres my 10k, up to the rest of you fellas now to get old Jimbo here his silo

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    4. Okay, I'll admit, THAT was funny.

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  5. Here's one James that fires .45 long colt and .410 shotshells interchangeably with the same barrel. Kind of expensive though. Walmart didn't seem to list the price, but it was $500.00 at another site.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rossi-Curcuit-Judge-Shotgun-.410-Bore-.45-Colt/17200849

    Here's another nice model James, that comes with two barrels; one for .22 long rifle and the other for .410 shotshells.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Rossi-Youth-MP-Combo-Gun-.410-Bore-or-.22-LR/17200848

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    1. Any "Judge" product is over-advertised and not much of a .410 or a .45. For that price, you should be able to get a used .44 or .45Colt revolver AND a single-shot (breech-loader) shotgun in your favorite size (20 or 12 ga), AND some decent ammo for each.

      Or, a rifle that shoots "the ammo of Bubba" and Uncle Sam, .223. It's okay if it's a single-shot NEF, as long as it shoots this super-common round, but if you shop hard, you WILL find a functional AR-15 from desperate hands who needs $320. Get the shottie, too, for killin' rabbits and little birds.

      pdxr13

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    2. "Any "Judge" product is over-advertised and not much of a .410 or a .45."

      The other thing that I was wondering about, was the patterns when using shotshells? I would think that the rifling in the barrel would throw the shot patterns way off? And it's not like you can afford to add anymore ineffiency into the .410 platform. I would place a better purchase on a 20ga shotgun, and use sabot slugs when you need to reach out and take down larger game. Any range much beyond 100 yards, and a rifle is going to be needed.

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