Thursday, January 2, 2020

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WHY MUST IT BE BLACK OR WHITE? 3
You cannot time the collapse. I cannot time the collapse. And Ross Perot? Well, he's dead, so you do the math. Damn, that dude lived forever. He and Ruth Bader Ginsburg must have sold their souls to the CIA for aging treatments, draining the blood of Deplorable virgins and transferring it into their dried mummified remains. I think Ruth might even be a zombie at this point, or at least had Demon Hilary resurrect her and shove automatronic controls up her ass. Hell, not even Hilary can time the collapse, and she shall sit on the right side of Lucifer's throne again soon.
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If you cannot time the collapse, you cannot say with certainty that you will have enough remaining time to continue on towards completing your preparations. I think it is a mistake to confuse probabilities with regards to timing. Probable causes of collapse guide the types of preparedness you undertake. They should not be used as an excuse for prolonging preps. Are the probabilities of Nork attack, an asteroid strike, an all out nuclear war or an EMP attack low? Of course they are. But they COULD happen.
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The probability that an economic collapse will spell our doom is high, but you cannot say WHEN the economy recovers, if it does, next time. You cannot say with any certainty how secure your job is, because the companies have been getting near free loans to buy back their stocks. You don't know when you will get fired as the company gets desperate. Plenty of those business model companies have already failed, prior to the official recession or actual economic collapse. Didn't the largest trucking company just declare bankruptcy? The repo guys had to go get trucks from rest stops and loading docks-how's that for no warning?
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You don't know WHAT will happen, although each of us has a favorite we pick and choose from, no one necessarily worse than the other because “possibilities”. We don't know WHEN it will happen. We do know, or at least I hope we know or we really are hopeless, that the collapse should have already happened, long ago. Only miracles have dictated otherwise ( and PLEASE, don't confuse the role of a miracle to continue to be repeated infinitely ). Yet, I know a lot of you ARE depending on divine intervention in your prepping plans. “Why, I simply MUST have the best grinder, best gun, best storage food. Plenty of time to get MORE of the very best. Because I deserve it and Murica!”
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You are trying to time the collapse. You are wrong. If you are always assuming the collapse occurs before Amazon delivers your next vital package, you will plan much differently than when you assume a trickle of money each payday will prep you by 2031. After which time you'll be the rootinest tootinest survivalist around, ninja gear belt complete. Again, why must this choice be black or white? Why can't you be prepped, now, and then take your time preparing with better gear and a better location?
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Because “buying crap is a waste of money”? Why? You aren't buying the worst, but “middlin”. Everything will be usable, serviceable and worse case, salable. Everything can be a back-up. No matter how good your crap is, it isn't bulletproof or unbreakable, with the exception of a few items like a cast iron pan or a hammer with steel handle. You can spend five hundred bucks on a scope, and it breaks just as easy as a $25 one. No matter how expensive your house is, almost all of them can burn down.
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( At least with most of today's building practices. Skyscrapers used to be built to withstand planes crashing into them, with the only exception seemingly the World Trade Center, but the insides can burn nicely ) No matter how smart you think you are, you can be outwitted by a stranger, your super deluxe storage food stolen. A back-up sure would have been nice! Well, perhaps if you had started out with wheat, and then buried that after you bought the freeze dried, you'd still have storage food, hmmmm?
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Why is a middlin AR a bad investment? You know the prices are going to go up. They already have. Palmetto used to get as low as $259 for a kit ( this was since I've been tracking them-I have no idea what they were doing multiple years ago ) on special and now the only time you see $289 is for a blemished item, even on Black Friday and Christmas sales. They will of course go much higher. As will ammo. Why not buy steel case now? Later, go with a premium bulk brand. You can always save the 2 MOA ammo for later as you use the One stuff now.
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( Side note, I was watching the Russia AK Guy showing off his Romanian Semi-Auto Designated Marksman rifle sold by Century. With surplus ammo, 3 MOA. On a $1800 gun! I love AK's and I love thirty cals, but if nothing else, that should make you appreciate the AR, even with poodle shooter rounds. A $350 AR with 18cent ammo does better ) Again, I know there are outliers reading this. You CAN buck the general trend and go All Best, in bulk. Good on you. This ain't for you.
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This is for folks just starting out or really lagging behind. Get your food. You can improvise weapons and catch rainwater, but in a lot of our areas of residence, there isn't enough food. It takes three other people to decide to find and eat wild plants, and you are all out of food. It takes a few dozen hunters to wipe out the game. Food First. Just starting out at six months of grain, or even flour, and you have some breathing room. JUST worry about calories at this point. Six months of flour is about $40, not including the storage container. You could get sick JUST eating that, but it will probably keep you alive.
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Get ANY bang-stick. A break open shotgun or a rimfire rifle of poor make for a $100 each is still better than a spear or a thirty pound bow you got at a garage sale ( although, it can't hurt to get those anyway ). Again, if you are just a normal Joe. I know some super warriors could take a spear to a battle and come back with a FLIR mounted AR. It takes almost zero money to get prepared. Then, work at more supplies, to lengthen the time you have supplies. Buy better, then store the old food or guns or ammo, for MORE, and back-up's.
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It is hard to actually waste money prepping. You have to be completely new to the field to buy completely worthless crap. Crap like hollow handled knives, or “survival ration bars or pills” which have cheaper better tasting alternatives. Above that absolute crap level, there is middlin “worst”. The worst supplies still retain utility. After your dirt cheap preps, then knock yourself out, buy the best, the most expensive, the most likely to impress. No one is saying “no”. I'm merely saying, “no, not YET”. Quantity, quickly, then quality, slowly.
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note: John Wilder ( HERE ), I honestly did write the above a week ago.  I notice we wrote similar hi-jinks concerning Ruth.  Great minds think alike
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30 comments:

  1. The prepper sphere has become a bloated and spuriously run gypsy market. Most of the pulp information thrown about by writers is speculative and boardering on delusional wet dream fantasy of short sticked boys aspiring to be alpha Knights of the redoubt roundtable, as well as just a marketing tie in to some doo dadd product in a side bar advertisement.

    I just use way last century examples of what grandparents used or stocked to get by in the home or farms. What worked just fine in analog times shall serve you as well through collapse and post apoc.

    Use some form of spread sheet documentation to balance out those limited funds in other overlooked categories as well. Stacked with guns, ammo and wheat is indeed priority, agreed. I ensure some funds go to other irreplaceable items that are "necessary" as well. Hygiene, sanitation, meds, service parts to keep hermitage running when stores closed and no brown trucks roll. Etc.

    Stand in that room or category area and mental or clip board check off what is daily, frequent, or hard to get priority items that would have an immediate increase in treasure value to you on day number one of your now new lifestyle during the planetary collapse of near all systems previously enjoyed without second thought. (My example was laying in multiple keresene heater wicks, have 'em in stock for my pre hind sight is 20/20 issue being checked off the list, money spent on a critical part for life of equipment, done.) Big thinking is required for the spicey times, not just a web page buy now, shopping cart icon button to decide things for you.

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    1. The preppper sphere is a shadow of its former self, as crappy as it is. All the ad revenue dried up. I think it was always delusional. American Survival Guide, anyone? LOL

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  2. “The probability that an economic collapse will spell our doom is high, but you cannot say WHEN the economy recovers, if it does, next time.”


    Just for the heck of it (And by sheer coincidence) I Duckduckgo’ed last night “How long before America suffers from a permanent economic collapse?”

    I didn’t click more results, so there were 10 on the first page. All, except for one, said that there would be one. Even Salon (Which I’m pretty sure is a leftwing rag) said that we’re facing one. So it seems that it’s unanimous, and that we will be facing one sooner, rather than later. I honestly have no idea, because I don’t see how America is still functioning at this point in time? But an educated guess is that no more than about 5 years from now is going to see some really hard times. Regardless of one’s personal, illogical, and unhinged opinions about Donald Trump (Note that I am not a republican) he’s probably actually bought us a little more time. What do you think is going to happen once the free shit crowd gets into power? The economy is going to improve? The borders are going to open wide, and all of south america will pour into the country 5 seconds later, to get their free medi-care, among many other things. If you do not live far, far away, from the blue zones, and do not have preps to survive long term, you are truly going to be f _ _ ked, sans lubricant….


    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=How+long+before+America+suffers+from+a+permanent+economic+collapse%3F&t=lm&atb=v1-1&ia=web

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    1. I'm pretty sure leftists think "Salon" is a far left rag. I don't think Trump did anything except make a tax cut for the rich. Okay, he might have "decriminalized" the Health Care penalty, too. What Trump did though, was NOT doing anything else, to make it worse, as Obammy did with glee and skill. So I give Orange Man that. Otherwise, not a fan. I feel the same dread about commies and open borders and OtherColor subsidized births, but keep in mind we either need jobs or need a functioning banking system to support all those immigrants. Prior to Mexico's Peak Oil flushing the economy ( nothing to see here, move along, never happen to us ), Mexican workers here in the US actually moved BACK home for work, at least one time. We might at least be seeing good news of far less immigration when the economy crashes.

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    2. "If you do not live far, far away, from the blue zones, and do not have preps to survive long term, you are truly going to be f _ _ ked, sans lubricant…."
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      That's pretty much my take too. If you aren't already way away from the epicenters there is no point in buying wheat or anything else. Frankly, if you still live there and can't get out asap you are already done for.

      We're only 40 miles from a war zone and I wish we were farther but I am thankful for that 40. If we still lived in Cape Coral, FL and I knew what I know now I'd be a nervous ninny all the time. The burn off will be glorious. 90 million in the first 6 months, then half a mill per month there after til equilibrium occurs. After 2 years the population will be what it was at mid 19th century levels, maybe less. Scrounging and foraging rural hordes will approach the epicenters armed for war and salvage operations. Urban survivors will be slaved or dispatched. American politics will no longer exist. Tribal warfare will be the norm for the next 1000 years or more. Grim story, eh? Makes you wonder what you're prepping for. Just lay back and let it happen.

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    3. Just prepping in case you survive. Why not? We have little else to do, hobby wise. It's betting on a long shot, but betting on BAU is a much worse bet. 40 miles only sucks when the gasoline is being delivered. And even then it ain't too shabby.

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  3. Your post is spot on in every respect. I think that everyone who is even remotely involved in preparedness knows "that guy" who want to acquire only the best, and who is willing to wait for it. Acquiring the best is certainly advisable as long as the individual has the wallet to match. Most people, however, don't.

    Unlike individuals who are willing to wait patiently in order to buy, say, "the best" golf clubs, in preparedness matters, the luxury of time isn't there. The balloon could go up tomorrow.

    It is said that "the enemy of the good is the perfect." Just how will this type of survivalist fare in world turned feral if he has a $2,000.00 AR15, but couldn't afford cases of ammunition to use in it because he's waiting to accumulate the funds to do so?

    Uncle Joe Stalin said, when referring to how Russia was forced to fight Germany in WWII with under-equipped and less-well-trained soldiers, "Quantity has a quality all its own." (Some say Stalin never said this, although the reality of the concept is obvious. Just look at Uncle Joe's results circa 1945.)

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    1. We think all this is obvious, but then, I even get questions such as why I think "one is none" is obvious. Not trying to dig on any minion. You should ALWAYS question everything by anyone. Even me, and there isn't a more perfect head of hair out there. I can see the allure of having the best, I really can. A craftsman, with the best tool, get exponential value out of it. But, as you say, the issue is timing.

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    2. I think a lot of people are wasting valuable time slandering others on their methodry. Why should I give 1 runny shit what other people have? I don't, and never have. If a dood wants to blow $3k on a flir, and $80k on a Hummer who am I to say otherwise? I just. don't. giva-flying-fuk.

      What I'd really like to see more of is (rather than trying to convert people that can't be converted) more articles dealing with how to get stuff done after the fact.

      Here's an example of what I am talking about. Saw a youtube recently that inspired me to try something, later this year when it warms up a little. Dood took a 20' long coil of 1/2" copper tubing ($24 at Menards) and threw it on the firepit in the yard. One end of the tubing was connected to the TOP of a large steel tank (maybe 20 gallons) and the other end was connected to the BOTTOM of the tank. Science dictates that hot air and water will rise, so after about 20 mins the dood had 20 gallons of screamin hot water. For almost free. Steel and copper, properly maintained, will last almost forever. I have a coil of 1/2" left over from a project about 10 years ago and I have a couple 55 gallon drums doing absolutely nothing worthwhile and I most likely have the fittings too. The only thing I needed was the info on how to do it. THIS is the kind of info I can use.

      Pissing and moaning about the poser bitch with more money than brains is nothing more than a distraction and my ADD ass can't stand distractions.

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    3. I've always been more philosophy and methodology than McGeyvor hands on building crap. Social sciences are my strength, not shop class. And since this is "only pay if satisfied"...Not dismissing your preferences, as I wouldn't mind some of that stuff myself. Simply not my wheelhouse. As much as we hate bean counters rather than engineers being in charge, reality dictates there is more to either running a system or simply surviving in it than just building stuff. Intangibles matter.

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    4. Oh, and PS, I got nothing but hate on the AR bolt action hack ( as well as the discussion pertaining to that on logistics ), so no matter if I do hands on or not, I'm disappointing plenty of folks. Not that I would have it any other way :)

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    5. Ghostsniper,
      Before you build that fire-powered hot water heater, have you considered doing the same thing, but with solar? You'd never have to worry about having consumables for starting a fire, collecting firewood, protecting firewood, or worrying about who sees the smoke.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btQtPQpUf90
      I'm trying to figure out how to do something like this for an outdoor shower, but not get it so hot that it burns my skin off. It sounds like extra hot is what you're looking for though.
      Romans 14:11

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    6. Perhaps ,You got hate because it was a stupid idea ?

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    7. Spud-well, sure, I get that plenty of people worship semi's and I proposed sacrilege. Obviously I was prejudiced towards the idea.
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      Romans-if you just want lukewarm rather than scalding, a solar shower bag? Black painted plastic tank?

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    8. It certainly isn't so much that I worship semi autos.
      Just that I been there kind of thing. Some times one needs a force multiplier when confronted with an over whelming force. Times when it's spray and pray or die.
      I'd much rather have the option.
      Hell, a Marlin 30/30 would be less expensive than a mediocre priced AR. Not mention much more reliable and 30 Cal to boot. I have two of them...along with those get out of trouble in a pinch semi's.

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    9. I look at guns from a quartermasters viewpoint. Strategic, rather than tactical. Survivalists look at the default of semi's now and think it is because it makes sense tactically. It was only ever adopted once it was strategically possible. Tactics are always a captive of logistics. I'm not discounting your experience, tactically.

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    1. Cockroaches know how to scurry away when the light is turned on. I don't think you'll get that lucky. I can't believe those bastards didn't respect the awesomeness that is the Turd House. No respect. One minor amusing aspect-leave it to a crackhead to steal a burglar tool that has a crappy used up battery.

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  5. Make the outer door lock when closing with a remote or hidden opening or latch. Trap them in the box. Leave them to rot!

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    1. Weren't we just discussing the problems with SSS ( shoot, shovel, shutup )? :)

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    1. Get this trailcam and wifi it to your computer, then to your cellphone. I know, I know but, "tools".
      Also, put a sign on the door that says, "If you can read this you are on cellular video and the neighbors are on their way." I just bought this trailcam last month and it's easy and works great. The next time they might kill you in your sleep. Those cage doors lock both ways.

      https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XQCSZ54/?coliid=I2V1F2PYJQEMSE&colid=10N25HETGLEDX&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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    2. Didn't you say a while back your place was very hidden to keep t___s low? My first thought is a recently "woke" person who realizes the USS Titanic is sinking has decided your place is their end-of-the-world backup plan and are figuring out what they need to do to force entry to inhabit it. Even though it looks poor, anyone with half a brain would see all your life-support mechanisms all over the place and that you actually have a workable homestead. I would assume someone has located you and they intend to take you out as soon as it goes down for real. Maybe soon as it looks like we just hit Iran really hard tonight. I would take it seriously as far as (legal) countermeasures, but don't stress so you lose sleep over it.
      Romans 14:11

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    3. You know nothing inside is worth a dime, they don't. They'll steal something, anything they THINK might be useful or worth something to somebody they owe a favor to.
      There's a certain psychology at work. A friend of mine had dirty skivvies stolen from his locker in boot camp, a place not known for easy access to meth. Not at the time, 1972, anyway. His mother had darned his initials into them, so he looked through the lockers of individuals he suspected, and sure enough, found his skivvies (not yet laundered).
      Was race a factor? you ask. Why, how dare you!

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  7. I think you were only exaggerating for effect, but a $500 scope will not break as quick as a $25 scope. Read the reviews for scopes in the $25 range. A high percentage of them arrive brand new, already broken, or break after only a few rounds. You don't have to spend $500, but admittedly, wire reticles can break. For maximum strength, look for GLASS ETCHED RETICLES. They are available for scopes in all price ranges. Because the reticle pattern is part of an adjustable glass lens, it'll generally only break under conditions that the rest of the scope is destroyed as well.
    Romans 14:11

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    1. Okay, granted, it depends on the height it was dropped. But let's say it is five feet, as if you tripped on a rock and the gun went flying. I wouldn't want to test my $100 scope trying that.

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    2. I just bought a $300 Holosun HS507C for my shotgun and it is tested to withstand 5000g's. The Barska 1-6X on my AR cost $250 and has sustained over 2000 rds. When the "pro's" learn what my glass cost they sniggle. I'm middlin' and so far so good. Not cheap, not showboatin', just, you know, middlin'. :-)

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  8. Oh, I believe you. With a target that big, there's a lot of room!

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  9. “Get this trailcam and wifi it to your computer, then to your cellphone.”


    Yeah, that’s what I was going suggest. They’ve come down in price, and you can probably get one cheaper than the one that GS suggested, though that one is probably the cheapest that you should spend. If you can get a clear shot of their license plate, or even face, the leo’s can probably track them down via a database. Ever see that software that can pick a random face out of a crowd of thousands in mere seconds? The only way to foil it, is by wearing really wide sunglasses, and a hat (Apparently the ears have unique identifying characteristics).

    This is unfortunate news, since part of my plan was to go with the Jed Clampett/Our Gang Clubhouse, style shack, that looked so awful, that even the thieves would take pity on me, and not bother with it :D But I can see now that this isn’t going to be enough. Maybe a cardboard cut out of a nude Rosie O’Dumbbell, or Bridget the calender girl, sitting on the porch might do it :D

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    1. The courts would convict you for torture if you played the Nude Rosie card. No lawyer could save you.

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