PEEv2c15part2
Junk Land, continued
Last time, WHY you want
junk land. Now? How? How is easy peasy. You go to Land Watch dot
com. I have a link to the site at the end of every blog article, in
the small print, saying “junk land under a grand”. You send the
seller money. They do all the paperwork. As easy as ordering a soft
serve ice cream cone, just a bit more expensive. And that is it.
Without a house or bankers, buying just land is a very uncomplicated
transaction. Now, a few words on the site. At the top and right
side are a bunch of ads. Don't ignore them. There are oodles and
gobs of companies selling junk land.
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On the left is the
dashboard where you control the search. Where you want the land, how
much it costs. It is a pretty nice site, the only issue I've noticed
is that a lot of rentals for office space were showing up. But I
recognize a lot of the companies from my E-Bay land purchases, and
the site was recommended by a minion, so you should have no problems.
E-Bay still is a possibility, but it sucks compared to 2005 when I
first started buying land there. A lot more restrictions and a lot
less to choose from.
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A lot of these junk
land companies offer money down and payments. It is a “financed by
owner” deal, so no banks are involved. You can have the worlds
worst credit and finance junk land at a reasonable interest rate.
And they usually don't penalize early pay-offs. What more could you
ask for? $50 down and $50 a month and in two years you own your own
land, never to pay rent again. Now, granted, beware those $50 a
month sales. It is usually in a bad zoning area, no water and
perhaps no jobs. But they are possible.
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You could research
every state you want to move to, then every county, for zoning
particulars. My method was more haphazard, as I went through
hundreds of land ads every day for hours, for months, before I found
my first great deal. I learned about zoning through those. Fifteen
years ago. I didn't want to read lawyer-ese to get specifics, just a
general flavor for all the potential states. Details will of course
matter, but I needed to know who to avoid and who to focus on.
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This was before Google
Earth, and a GPS was still a luxury. It is a lot easier now ( I got
paper plot maps from my county to find my first land. Now they have
those online. The paper maps were much better. Just not quicker or
handier ). Now it is a lot harder for someone to fool you. I always
had the philosophy that I was spending $500. I could afford to get
ripped off. Luckily, it never happened, although my initial criteria
was low cost ( my more expensive land was close by, and I didn't have
to buy sight unseen if I didn't want to. Plus, the sellers were
incorporated-a bit less worry they were fly by night ).
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My biggest concern was
zoning ( why I chose those I did-they allowed unlimited RV parking ),
and water close by ( wells are a vulnerability, and why I stayed out
of west Texas ). A legal county owned road for access. And of
course a job ( pay child support or go to jail ). Then I focused on
culture. Where were “my” people. I couldn't move back to
California, that state and all who live there are dead to me. It is
a death trap, on par with Escape From New York.
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I don't just mean
fellow Whites. For instance, plenty of Whites in Louisiana, and that
place had a VERY weird vibe. I left the same day I arrived. I would
never, unless following a bosomy Sugar Mamma with an arsenal of
HK-91's, and gold Krugerrand's falling out of her cooter, move to
YankeeLand. I don't care what color they are. NOT normal people up
there ( I met transplants in Florida. Half of them were foreigners
culturally ). Color matters in a way. If the area is Latino, forget
getting a job there as they all go to Like Colors. A high percentage
of Blacks, yes, they ARE out to get you. Obammy sanctioned and awoke
race hatred among Blacks, and I don't like being a target.
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To get a good idea of
race, I looked up the location, the nearest town, under City-Data dot
com. It is okay for Mexican's and Blacks to prefer their own kind,
and by gum I don't have to be a racist to feel the same way. Unless
they are racist also. But I'm far more focused on culture than race.
In this case, race just points to other factors, employment and
danger of crime. You know, profiling. But as exemplified under the
above states examples, it is more about culture. Texas? I lived
there six months, and never felt welcome. Florida? Too modern, in
the personal isolated community-less sort of way. A lot of places
are full of Yuppie Scum, rich twats screwing me economically.
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Nevada was the best fit
for me, a stand 99.9% of survivalists disagree with. I don't want
them here anyway, so there! Fight over your abundant rain locations
with all the city folk. I love the desert, and I love the emptiness
and quiet. I love the space between people. I love the cold, now,
after I acclimated. Pick the spot YOU want. If it is the “perfect”
retreat, but you hate everyone there, you will have a suck-ass life.
We need to plan on a collapse, but also a life to enjoy if one
doesn't happen on our schedule.
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Now, to finances. You
need to buy with an understanding you are making an imperfect
investment. You are gambling more than investing. The purchase
amount needs to be small enough you can walk away. Ask any old White
retiree stuck in insane property tax New Jersey, the yearly taxes
more than the purchase price of the house fifty years ago. Gee, I
wonder if his Social Security covers that. Ask any old White stuck
in what is now a minority ghetto. They waited too long to move,
because of that high cost investment, and now cannot sell high enough
to move elsewhere.
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You can discover your
new area is far worse than you thought. The county officials screw
with you. A neighbor from Hell moves in after you do. Developers
discover the area and bribe the zoning people to harass you. The
nearby town closes its factory and employment crashes. You hate the
weather ( a lot of Northern Arizona is more like high elevation
Colorado than it is like low desert Phoenix, for example ). Perhaps
you never even get the opportunity to move there. Land, at first,
is an expense. Only after you successfully settle down is it a great
investment allowing you to never pay rent or a mortgage again. Then
it is liberating.
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Just beware it won't be
a painless process. It won't be as cheap as you think. But it is
worth it in the end. The freedom to live on $300 a month instead of
$1,000 ( in conjunction with freeing yourself from a motor vehicle,
in that case ) means you are much closer to economic freedom.
Retiring ten years prior to getting Social Security was the best
moment in my life, outside of having kids. You don't do that still
paying rent. Junk land, the first step to quitting the Rat Race.
And a nice survivalist tool.
( PS-you can always buy tax delinquent land, but I'm going under the assumption you wish to beat the occurring economic collapse and don't have forever to procure a lot to hold up in )
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“For instance, plenty of Whites in Louisiana, and that place had a VERY weird vibe.”
ReplyDeleteWas it upon meeting your neighbors for the first time, and the first one exclaimed, “Nice hair, and you have a mighty purdy mouth there mister”. And the second one chimed in “Ain’t that the truth” (Ahh, Deliverance. The cinematic gift that keeps on giving :D )
Gonna go out on a limb here, and speculate that most junk land being sold today will not be in close proximity water. Take a cue from the hobo from rancho costa nada, and have that years supply of water set aside. If you wish to stay at your junk land long term, then you will need to invest in a cistern. You could get lucky and find junk land in close proximity to water, but I’d assume the worst case scenario. And yes, I get that it’s a totally different game for those of you that are east of the Mississippi, but you have a different problem to contend with (Plenty of water and woods, but also plenty of population density).
In all seriousness, I didn't even talk to anyone there in Louisiana. I got off the bus, hoping to visit an Army buddy, and the lizard brain went off. Think, visiting a Baltimore ghetto alley at night. It was day, and there were a couple of old farts sitting and chewing the fat. No danger, per se, but the hair on the back of my neck still stood up. The longer I sat there, the worse it got, until I returned to Greyhound and bought a ticket to Wyoming ( no reason other than I always wanted to see it. It met no expectations ) leaving that day. Bizarre experience, but I've always trusted that voice. I just never had it that strong or quick.
DeleteYou do know "Deliverance" was set in Georgia, right?? Or was just knee jerk bigotry against Southerners?
ReplyDeleteI never met such scurvy mutts until I hopped across southern Pennsylvania.
Cali just a stew pot of stupid. I truly don't understand how they know which body opening to shovel a spoonful of cereal into.
Always liked Southerners. Met a lot in the Army. Later moved there for 10+ years. But as any will tell you, they vary by state. Not a single culture. I'm a Cali native, and I agree with your diagnosis completely. Forrest could learn them some
Delete“Or was just knee jerk bigotry against Southerners?”
DeleteNah. It was just a joke that no one was supposed to take even remotely seriously, that could have applied to any rural, homosexual, hillbilly gentlemen, with a purdy hair and mouth fetish, that now seems a little less funny upon further explanation :D
Never funny when you have to explain it. Sad Panda :(
DeleteTo me it was set in America ;-)
DeleteNo longer just in the South? :)
DeleteMarket-Ticker commenters suggest stocking aspirin, Tylenol, and various NSAI (non-steroid anti-inflammatory) drugs.
ReplyDeleteMany people are allergic to those... or can grow allergic during use.
Symptoms include difficulty breathing, lung fluid, bright red face, throat swelling shut... some of the symptoms you are taking the drug to relieve!
And that overlooks the potential for liver damage from NSAI chemicals.
Just because a chemical is unregulated or available without a script doesn't automatically mean every body can absorb unlimited amounts of it.
Pharmacists go to chemistry school for years to learn interactions of those complicated compounds.
My neighbor was an AirForce ParaJumper, trained in surgical maintenance of traumatic amputation and such, and he advises against any drug at any time.
I retired as a Physical Therapist; I am convinced every doctor is owned by pharm reps.
Bison,
I strongly advocate avoiding anti-biotics.
Anti-biotics are contra-indicated if infected with a virus.
Without a lab, who knows if you suffer from food poisoning, flu, or out-gassing carpets and other petroleum-based plastics?
Anti-biotics destroy the intestinal flora, and researchers say >90-percent of our immune system is in our gut.
Excellent column, because without health...
You might remember I'm not a huge veggie fan ( not cooked, anyway ). I eat them when I crave them ( although lately I'm forcing myself, in anticipation of Beer Bug ). During the last Polar Vortex, when the idiot brigade simple needed full donation pick-up during minus 15 ( and that was after I biked to work in the slop ), I got a pretty wicked fever ( flu? Worse? ). I let it go too long before I took aspirin. Afterwards, including a few days with eating few solids ( mostly just drinking OJ ), my body was insisting on salad. Nothing had ever sounded better in my life. Ate that bunny crap for near a week, a huge trough of weed-like plants for diner. Then, suddenly, I couldn't stand the sight of it. I normally craved a single salad a month. I'm not telling this tale to get diet advice :) I'm saying my body told me what to eat to restore equilibrium. So, yes, I agree with the gut/intestine immune system and the advisability of drug avoidance ( although, perhaps not as long as I did. I also don't hesitate too long to take aspirin anymore. I can only hope I didn't do any permanent damage )
Delete.
Takes years for nsaids to damage your liver.
DeleteMy doctor said I can take all I want for arthritis (I'm 59). Said I would be dead before I suffer from liver damage😊
I take both doctors advice and alt med practice advice with a grain of salt. Everybody thinks they are 100% correct, which just means everyone is full of crap. It's your body, make up your own mind. Just trust no one.
Deletegreat book
Delete'ten per cent human'
about gut biome excellent read eye opening
Thanks-I'l go check it out
DeleteNot quite junk land, but I discovered there was a 5 acre minimum to qualify as agricultural land and get dirt cheap property tax. I paid a bit more up front to get 5 instead of the 2-3 acre properties I found. It was a bit like spending more on a rifle that uses less expensive ammo. Think of the total long term price, not the foot in the door price. The main limitation is any structure needs to be less than 200 square feet to keep the status of ag land. I can work around that.
ReplyDeleteGreat move-taxes are what jams you up, every time. Because people are pussy's and won't Lamp Post the commies.
DeleteIt would be a shame if your flowing mane were to get mussed as you were uncoiling the rope.
DeletePiano wire is more traditional ( with lamp posts verses trees ), and that will unspool. No fuss, no muss
DeleteI own 22 wooded acres. With a singlewide the taxes are $204 this year. I can live with that. I may sell the 8 acres the trailer is is on. It would get me debt free and build my forever house. At 1000ish square feet my taxes would be about $700 or less but still doable. The gains in solar heating and security would be worth it.
DeleteSilver for property taxes. I still stand by my $100 silver ( in today's purchasing power ) minimum price. Have that 2-7 ounces for each year taxes and in theory, long run, you'll be okay in a mild collapse. Hard collapse, you'll be fighting county troops, not paying them taxes. Remember, silver was $50 back when that bought more, and prior to peak production. $100 should be a slam dunk. I think it will go to gold prices, but just the $100 should be a jelly filled donut guarantee. Of course, cash for the immediate next few years, waiting for JP Morgan's grip on the silver derivatives to slip.
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ReplyDeleteYour attitude is EXACTLY why I want to live in the desert. 99% of folks think the exact same way. The only reason we have the population we do is because the luxury of the grid right now. Nothing at all with where you are. Except later folks will move towards you. They will move AWAY from me. And if you look at the Bedouin, staying here in the Great Basin is easy living. :)
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DeleteI didn't think you were being a jerk. Far from it, I enjoy your comments. I understand this is NOT a great choice short term, only long term. The 2017 figures are inflated. Subtract about ten percent. Folks crowded in, then left for their regular crapholes. As usual, per every economic downturn elsewhere. Folks actually think jobs are going begging up here. Idiots. They get unemployment and high cost of living. We should more of that, in stages. And yeah, I know the cards need to turn up exactly right. It was a great place to be for the 2008 meltdown. I'm hoping my luck holds. Hope is a terrible tactic, I know. But to a degree we must all engage in it. You have to hope the property around you isn't bought up and sold to yuppie scum fleeing the city. I have to hope the population falls drastically before the final crash.
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