Friday, November 17, 2017

frugal survivalist revisited


FRUGAL SURVIVALIST REVISTED

I apologize in advance, but due to the astronomical nose bleed stock market highs, Forrest Trump’s saber rattling with Iran for God knows why, and a record low retail wheat price, I have no choice but to do yet another article on a prepper stash under $500.  It is almost Christmas, and what better gift for your child living near college in a urban craphole than a closet full of wheat and a novices firearm?  At the time of gift unveiling,  of course the ingrate spawn with try to hide his boiling rage over not seeing a bottle of Jack Daniels under the tree, but he is a dumb ass.  Why is he even going to college?

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Even if the insanely greedy and retarded Powers That Be somehow manage to keep kicking the can down the road, I think some well established trends are NOT going to go away.  Like health care being even more unaffordable, and college imparting nearly zero knowledge leading to a worthless degree which will, after persistence and a well placed bribe, MAYBE lead to a non-paying internship which might last past the company going bankrupt.  And why are you paying this little bastard to go there in the first place?  He can’t think logically.  Hormones, dude.  Come on, you still remember.

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Do I need to do a Ten Times Minimum Cost survival stockpile article?  If you have the money to piss away on college you must need to buy more prep gear besides a FLIR scope.  Nah.  I’ll leave that crap for the Yuppie Scum.  Their websites are probably in dire straights right now, with advertiser demise.  To them, that will be a frugal prep budget.  What could you do with five grand if you were them?  Not much, as freeze dried yak kidney’s and three semi-auto’s would exceed that amount once you added mags and glowing red dot sight.  I could stash five years of food, several bolt rifles with all needed ammo, a piece of junk land, an underground shelter, solar panels, a lifetime supply of bicycle parts and a few small business ideas equipment, but that is just me.

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Hey, you knew going into this article it would be nothing new.  Consider my idea/article repeats my version of a guest article since I was drawing a blank on what to write about that day.  Or consider it just a gentle reminder how cheap you should or could be.  Hell, I blame it on those cheese dinguses out there on all the other doomer blogs that haven’t written anything new or exciting since the last hurricane made landfall, depriving me of ideas to steal.  I think I was on a pretty good role there for awhile anyway.  It was inevitable I’d bog down for a day or two. 

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Remember, this isn’t for everyone.  It is bare bones without endangering oneself.  Just the food storage alone might be problematic if you don’t have the proper indoor space.  It assumes you are completely new to the game and have nothing, not even a firearm.  I don’t care how nice and Billy Bad Ass your knife is, it just seems wrong for anyone to be without a gun these days.  How do you sleep at night?  But, regardless, here we go.  The most important is obviously a years worth of food in the form of wheat kernels.  If you are gluten intolerant you suck.  You’ll be stuck with rice which has no nutrition ( regardless of what anyone tells you, you cannot store brown rice for any length of time-I’d see if the livestock wanted it and completely replace it every year and even then I’d worry it was months out of date ).

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If you can’t eat wheat, you wont be prepping frugal.  The cheapest I’ve heard for rice was thirty some odd cents a pound.  Wheat is twenty-two.  And you won’t just be eating off your food stores.  You’ll need supplements for fiber and other nutrients a White Food ( white flour, white rice, white sugar ) doesn’t contain.  They are Calories Only.  Ornamental cuisine doesn’t contain a lot of vegetables because they are oh so yummy, it is because they must make up for the white rice deficiencies ( plus, it is all cooked because they used human feces as fertilizer ).  Why didn’t the survival writers in the 60’s and 70’s have to deal with these non-wheat diet issues? 

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At the feed store ( request wheat “for human consumption”.  Make sure it isn’t vet medicine treated.  And don’t be afraid of a bit of stalks and other crap in there.  Jeez, pick it out or grind it up and eat it. It’s just more fiber ) right now whole wheat kernels are $22 a hundred pounds.  Get 400 pounds ( a pound a day will, barely, keep you alive.  The extra 35 pounds is for more sprouts so you get your live green food ).  Go to Wal-Mart and buy four 18 gallon Sterilite grey plastic tubs.  You will probably want to have them inside where you don’t get mice ( I have an experimental tote full of flour I‘ve kept outside uncovered except for the RV overhang, and I‘ve yet to get infestation.  Don‘t ask me how-take that with a grain of salt ).  They are thin plastic, not thick like poly five gallon buckets.  The totes should be $20.  Just throw the unopened wheat bags in.  So, $108 total.

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You’ll need a few more food items.  While at Wally, buy $25 worth of the vegetable shortening.  The worst kind of oil to consume, but it stores a very, very long time.  I used to store lard ( both are hydrogenated, which is terrible for you, so lard doesn’t win in the health department ) and it lasted at most five years.  The shortening was still going strong.   A years  worth of multivitamins.  A few pounds of iodized table salt ( you need iodine in your diet, usually only available from saltwater grown items ) and a bag of water softener salt ( it must state that it is Sodium Chloride, NOT potassium chloride ).  Your total is around $150.

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Also at Wal-Mart, pick up a $100 gun.  Your choice is a single shot rimfire or a single shot shotgun.  I would recommend the rifle over the shotgun as you’ll have more rounds due to price and a far more accurate weapon.  Unless you are more comfortable with a shottie.  Expect about a seven cent rimfire ammunition cost and a twenty cents shotshell.  The gun with sales tax and the background check fee will be about $135.  A thousand rounds of rimfire will get you to about $200 ( about 300 shotshells-still pretty respectable for a single shot ).

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Now your total is up to $350.  Time to shop at Amazon.  Get a grain grinder.  $45.  You might find one for $38.  Look for “Victoria”, which is just the old “Corona” rebranded.  Same unit, a cast iron bastard that will last a lifetime if you keep it from rusting.  They are NOT wheat grinders, but corn.  With wheat you must run them through three times.  A course setting, middlin, then fine.  A bit extra work, a HUGE money savings.  Also buy a Sawyer water filter.  $20 and in theory filters a hundred thousand gallons.  Next, a Kukri knife ( one of those curved near sword knives used to good effect in the World wars by the colonists ).  And a Swedish Mora knife, high carbon steel and suitable for fine work ( the Kukri is just a hacker ).  Last, about the best knife sharpener you can buy ( for blades that come from the factory with the correct angle ), a “Rada”.  The whole shopping trip here should be about $100.  Your total comes in at $450.

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As I said, far from perfect.  You have no duplicates of anything in case of loss or damage.  But given how this entire kit costs under two weeks of minimum wage, it is a VERY good starting point.  And if the ass falls out of civilization tomorrow, at least you have relatively decent insurance to increase your odds of survival.

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31 comments:

  1. You can get 12ga. bird and small game shot for $20-25 per 100, then replace the shot (with bought shot, or melt down the small shot into something more suitable. Don't exceed the original shot weight). A single shot is more forgiving on the loading. That is 800-1000 shells for the same $200.
    Of course, for about $230 you can get 5000 rounds of .22lr ... if you shop around online.
    Also, because of the retail apocalypse, milspec AR15 rifles and pistols are below the $500 mark now. $5000 could get 3 rifles and almost 10000 rounds of m193 55gr (or more steel case). Though most barrels lose accuracy by the 3000 round mark with fast firing.

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    1. I'd only trust a cheap AR if I used it as a bolt action. And I'd treat any steel case ammo as I do old war surplus ammo-diluted ammonia, swabbed anywhere the powder touched, then cleaned as normal ( you clean for three days after every firing, right? )

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    2. For items whose sole purpose is to save your life they should not come from Walmart. 10 years ago I bought 500 rds of Winchester brand 12ga in 8shot and almost every one that I tried to fire in my brand new Remington 870 Marine Magnum fired, but swoll up to where I had to use a dowel down the barrel to get em out. By generic peanut butter that you'll just shit out the next morn but when it comes to firearms etc, don't go cheap, you'll live to regret it then you'll die. Walmart buys 2nd rate products from manufacturers that cannot sell them as top of the line stuff. Buy at your own risk.

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    3. I don't disagree with you at all. Thank goodness I didn't have any of their PB to eat :). I would say, buy only if you must. If you are this poor you have to buy at Wally, it is definitely BTN. If you spend another $65 on the rimfire from a gun shop you can get the Cricket. Better quality, just from not being at Wal-Mart, and comes with a scope. $550 grand total. Not too bad of a premium to pay as insurance to improve quality. I should have been far more explicit and warned about half your shopping source. Appreciate you calling me on it.

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  2. I was just thinking about this subject myself. I had some thoughts for others like me who suffer from wheat (probably due to the pesticides and agent orange stuff used on it). Dried corn lasts longer than brown rice - both do best when well dried and stored with an oxygen absorber in an airtight container supposedly up to 7 years vaccum packed brown rice with O2 absorber - I've gotten to that long (7yrs) with 'red' rice (about halfway between brown and white). White rice, potato flakes, etc. will provide calories but only a (small) step up from straight sugar as far as your body is concerned. You should be getting lots of beans too if you can't handle the wheat- even with an O2 absorber you will end up having to grind the beans to get them cooked well after about 5 years.
    I am also recently started investing in pouches of instant soup - specifically liptons Cream of Chicken - foil packs, single servings a months worth costing about $30 from amazon and gluten free addition to basic grains and beans.
    One needs to eat as they intend to live. I can't eat wheat, and can't live on grain and beans anyways (not enough exercise as a cubicle drone) I just get too fat even biking and walking to work. High protein/Veggies and I lose weight. I focus on vegetables I have successfully grown locally (even if never enough for a year yet I can grow them and eat them) and animals that I can usually get locally and have grown myself in the past (not locally unfortunately) chickens, pigs, and cows. With that as the diet I have lost weight, gotten healthier and know *some* at least should be available in PODA - these people who eat 'organic' bananas and avocados in chicago and points north are fooling themselves, it might be healthy now, but it will be ruinously expensive in the future if even possible. Eating locally, or on shelf stable long term storage foods (wheat, real honey, etc), will put you way ahead of the crowd for surviving future supply disruptions and collapse. And having both as options in your current diet will have you far readier for the future than having just one or the other, or worse, neither.

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    1. My last foray into corn was a disaster-I wouldn't trust it unless I further dried it out of the bag. And on top of that it isn't cheap anymore. It is a bit of a no win situation.

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    2. Popocorn has worked for me up to 10 years old it still mostly popped, and could be 'roasted' for the bits that don't. I dont eat near as much as I have stored.
      Choosing veggies and meats that last well and are easily grown locally is important to work into your diet as well.
      Here there are lots of zucchini, cucumbers, tomatoes, and peppers BUT only from the hobby gardners that either buy their 'starts' from the nursery or water intensely. There are less cauliflower, cabbage, etc. BUT they can and are grown from heirloom seed and mostly disregarded until harvest. Cabbage especially gives people gas if they haven't worked it into their diet - I eat it almost daily and don't suffer at all. The point is find out what grows easily around your AO and find out how to eat it. You will be needing to eat weeds ANYWAYS may as well get ahead of the curve and be adapted for them.

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    3. Can you grind the corn, or is it for popping only? What does a giant bag cost? I'm good on grain, but it would be info to pass on to minions.

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    4. I am eating so little of it that I no longer know the pricing. Spouse and child recently eat some as popcorn that had been put back in 2013 - no problems at all.
      I have ground it with mixed success in the past, attempting to rehydrate it first sometimes helped sometimes didn't it seems to be a gamble as to how good grinding the popcorn does. I ended up grinding the popped popcorn to use as breading and crumbs with cornstarch in recipes that call for such.
      As I said though I find more than a tiny amount just accumulates at the belt level, so I avoid all grains now and replace them with things like cauliflower, cabbage, turnips, etc.

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    5. Turnips and cauliflower. Are you sure this was an improvement? :)

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    6. Yes - I lost weight (fat) greens including cabbage with turnips, cauliflower, broccoli, carrots, 'spring mix' lettuces, some peas and limited beans, and lots of leaner cuts of meat. 10% of body weight lost in less than 6 months, with no signifacant rebound yet (3 months later) by continuing to eat the same sort of stuff.

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    7. I had to give up butter on my two breads of the day meals. The heart burn went from searing pain to really uncomfortable. If I don't lose weight from that, I'll start questioning the wheat.

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  3. Here it all is in list form, though it appears I may have made a math error, but don't know where, and this shitty win 10 machine won't let me find out. I have never seen a more worthless computer in my life. (my Win XP won't do internet any more, all browsers and email apps left it behind, so I have no choice but to use a newer machine for access)

    Feed Store
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    Wheat Berries, 100 lbs, $88.00
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    Total: $88.00

    Walmart
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    Sterilite 18 gal containers, 4, $20.00
    Vegetable Shortening, $25.00
    Iodized Salt, 5 lbs, $5.00
    Multi-vitamins, 500, $20.00
    Water Softener Salt, 1 bag, $5.00
    Rimfire .22 rifler, $135.00
    Rimfire Ammo, 1,000 rds, $200.00
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    Total: $410.00

    Amazon
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    Victoria Corn Grinder, $45.00
    Sawyer Water Filter, $20.00
    Kukri Knife, $25.00
    Mora Knife, $15.00
    Rada Blade Sharpener, $10.00
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    Total: $115.00

    Grand Total: $613.00

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    1. Okay, get your rimfire from Sportsman's Guide, $80 1300 rounds when you get free shipping
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      https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/325-rounds-federal-ammunition-auto-match-40-grain-22lr-ammo?a=1305481
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      $483 total all in.

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  4. On salt, the iodized stuff is pretty much stripped and depleted junk, even the traditional brand names like Morton. I've read the amount of iodine in the salt is minimal enough that it won't really solve iodine deficiency problems. This is what I take for iodine...

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KXFXJ2I/ref=sxr_rr_xsim_1_s_it?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3008523062&pd_rd_wg=vSNxj&pf_rd_r=QTR9P0MRHYYHBWGANPMW&pf_rd_s=desktop-rhs-carousels&pf_rd_t=301&pd_rd_i=B00KXFXJ2I&pd_rd_w=AYRRP&pf_rd_i=nascent+iodine&pd_rd_r=ec947eee-fe77-4416-a5a5-b21b67490023&ie=UTF8&qid=1510966644&sr=1

    The instructions say three drops a day, but that's more than you need unless you're trying to cure something. I take one drop a day, so the bottle lasts about 9 months. I also recommend Real Salt, mined out of Redmond, Utah. It has 50+ trace minerals in it, minerals your soil/crops/forage will likely be deficient in. If you think you may have vitamin/mineral deficiencies now, stand by for a grid down event when you'll be double depleted from a shortage of everything, including sleep, and an abundance of stress. If you have a health food store near you, they can order it in 25 pound sacks for a savings over the normal 1 pound shelf price.
    For your health,
    Peace out

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    1. Damn, I don't know why I thought iodine content was fed regulated. I suppose it was at one time ( need healthy cannon fodder, the reason corn meal was regulated to contain additives ). Now, corporate profits above all, even the imperial survival ( recruits raised and fed GMO, etc. )

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  5. I live in wheat country. I just purchased 2200 lbs of wheat screenings (broken and whole wheat kernals with whatever weed seeds)in a poly tote for $50.00.
    I could winnow the chalf and weed seeds out of it and probably have 1600 to 1800 pounds of wheat kernals and pieces. Many wheat elevators sell screenings for a song. I've bought screenings that were 30% flax or some other crop.
    You never know what you might get but the price is right. By the way, I feed chickens with it.

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  6. “It is almost Christmas, and what better gift for your child living near college in a urban craphole than a closet full of wheat and a novices firearm?”


    I suppose it could go down in a few ways. If he can keep a low profile, and stay holed up in his apt, he might survive the 6 weeks or so in which the majority are now expired. But he would need plenty of stored water, and way to pack up the waste (no sewage at this point). But if it came down to having to defend his wheat, or having to make a run for it, he would be doomed with a singleshot or a slow operating bolt (I agree with you on bolts in general. I just think that having a bolt in this particular situation wouldn’t be very helpful). A short pump shotgun is probably the best here.

    Or you could give him a fast motorcycle so that he could get the hell out of Dodge as fast as possible when it all goes south. This option might provide him with a slightly better chance.

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    1. Now take that scenario and apply it to suburban folks "bugging in". Same difference, right? Someone always eventually comes looking for something in the cupboards, you know, because that is what they do in Walking Dead. I don't know how much my initial scenario was tongue in cheek and how much was just BTN, but you are right of course. If you are poor, giving him a decent ( a quarter of way in price between Wal-Mart and Bike Shop Porn ) mountain bike, water containers, filter, a huge bag of beef jerky ( replaced annually ) and a pistol probably give him a much better chance of survival. Unless he is a thousand miles away, then enjoy your time together now while you have it.

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    2. I have a few other idea’s that might increase someone’s odds of survival in the city. The old brick (fireproof) two story building in the commercial district, ideally with a primitive elevator system to the top floor, Earth boxes on the roof, along with a humanure composting bin, and a hand pump well in the basement. If you had the map to the cities tunnel system, that might provide some potential to hide out for a while. A well concealed entrance to a bomb shelter in the backyard. If you lived near the coast, a large power boat might not be the worst idea.

      To be clear, this isn’t anything that I would ever consider. But since I hate most people, living in the city isn’t an option for me in the first place. And I’m not advocating that anyone try this either. I only mention it because I have met more than one person that refuses to leave the city under any circumstances. Well, that, and perhaps it might provide you with some article ideas.

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    3. Excellent article ideas. I'd even think about using them myself if I was there. Some folks want to leave but can't-so there is that. Thanks!

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  7. IN my neck of the woods a 24x24 metal roofed carport is $1000. Another $200 gets enough sheet metal to finish it off. That's pretty good for a steel tent. Anchor the crap out of it and you have something much sturdier and fire resistant than any fabric tent.

    $150 for a double barrel stove kit, 2 metal barrels and a short bit of pipe and a cap.

    As you get funds... wooden platform, 2x4/2x6 stud wall and insulation for the walls and ceiling...

    I lucked out and got in on the $89 Mosin, $50 yard sale 12 gauge single shot, and $65 single shot .22LR bolt action. $300 got me two cans of Mosin ammo, 10 bricks of .22LR and a 5 gallon bucket of loose 12 gauge rounds (625 rounds to be exact). That is my forever gear that is set up for long term storage. I still want to add a break action .44Mag to the forever pile. My normal kit... bought during better times is a $400 Ak (10 mags and 1400 rounds), an SKS I got trading some junk I hauled off, a Marlin .22 bolt action, a Marlin .22Mag bolt action, a .308 enfield and a .30-06 bolt action. A Couple thousand rounds of foreign .308 ran me 25 cents a shot, and .30-06 ammo was $10 a box. Given that I only use less than ten rounds per year... $200 on deer ammo gives me a lifetime even without reloading.

    A 5 gallon bucket with a spool of paracord $50, some heavy duty plastic sheeting $20 and some tent stakes. 10 - used food grade plastic barrels $30... A little over $100 for water collection and firewood storage (under the plastic when set up).

    This summer I will be looking at used bale wagons 8x16 foot. Last year they were selling for $500 cash all over. Hope to pick up 2 or three for my move to the wilderness...

    38 foot by 60 foot farmer hoophouse run around $3,000 new. Can probably find used frames really cheap and just add new coverings. Add a few used travel trailers for $1000 each. Put the campers inside the hoophouse. Greenhouse style heat, plus you can buy campers with leaky roofs and not have to worry.

    Just a few ideas from someone headed to the northern wilderness in less than three years.

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    1. It doesn't sound like you Luck Out as much as you are always ready to pounce on a deal and go All In. Rooting for you on the move.

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  8. The 5000 to 8000 books I plan to sell off starting next summer is what is going to buy my chunk of wilderness.

    $1,000 can buy a pair of small Stihl chainsaws, plus a pair of cordless battery powered chainsaws, 4 extra batteries, a couple chains for each, couple 5 gallon buckets of bar oil, a dozen files, and still have enough funds left to purchase some bow saws, extra blades, flat files, and mauls, splitting mauls, and wedges.

    In the next two years I am starting work on my bucket project.

    A 5 gallon bucket filled with 7 big bottles of shampoo @ $2 each - $14, topped off with twenty bars of Ivory soap $8, with a dozen wash cloths - $3 and a loofa $2...means a few years worth of bath products for a total cost of around $30.

    A 5 gallon bucket with 7 bottles of dishsoap $7, 2 packages of sponges $2, and a couple packs of scrubbers $3, and a half dozen dish cloths $6... means clean dishes for a long time at a cost of less than $20.

    A bucket here and a bucket there means not having to stress about work as much when we get to the woods.

    Initial plans are to go without grid power or generator power as I know I will have to work somewhere and plan to use the vehicle to charge powerpacks, cordless tool batteries and AA batteries as I make my daily drive. The only added cost is perhaps another spare inverter and the use of my passenger seat. Unless I come across a sweet deal on some more solar panels. I have a hundred watts at the moment.

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    1. Damn, isn't that going to damage your soul, selling all those books? Why aren't you making laundry soap for use as dish soap? $15 makes THIRTY gallons of laundry/dish soap. And the bars you use make better bar soap ( a quarter each, and they still last as long or longer than regular bars ).

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  9. I have over 15,000 books. Most of the ones to be sold are either duplicate copies from yard sales (bought real cheap) or duplicates in topic or were bought just to resell. After all does one really NEED 500 books on alternative medicine or 200 books on edible plants. Just the basics. Once we get settled in my chunk of woods... then the recollection can begin anew.

    Buy a book for 50 cents or a $1... read and then sell online for $5.00 Seems like a decent way to get an education and save up for land. A basic survival library gets kept and all my collectible survival duplicates get sold. A couple years after Paladin goes under... the online prices for the pre-lawsuit Ragnar books will be a great deal higher. Last I checked the hitman book that got them sued was selling at over $300 to $800 a copy. When I find my two copies those will be gone too. Nothing worth saving (other than my notes) in that book. LOL

    Currently my wife is picky about laundry soap.. so we get the cheap stuff from Dollar General. Stop by for what she needs during the week gets a $5 coupon off a $25 order for Saturday. When I work Saturdays... I use the coupon for prep purchases. $5 free stuff every weeks adds up.

    I have the recipe someplace for the really cheap stuff. Have a tote full of the ingredients somewhere too.

    At least with the holidays coming up.. the gift cards I get from my parents and employer all go towards preps.

    Dollar Tree has regular base LED lightbulbs for 2 for $1. So fifteen bucks gets us completely converted over. Plus a few extras...

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    1. My apologies...you seem to have Frugal Preps/Living more than covered. At least I know I'm not a freak with at most 2.5k books :)

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    2. Do those several hundred dollar rare books really sell? Or is it a gimmick to make someone sweat awhile before knocking it down to $80 or whatever?

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  10. I hope some idiot buys at that price once I start selling. I bought $500 worth at a crack back when Paladin had its 20% off for the holidays sale. I was working double shifts 6 days a week and plowed all my extra cash into books. I didn't even pay retail and should still be able to sell at a huge profit.

    One of my prepper friends in Missouri has 30,000 books in his collection. Kinda sad that I can sell off twice as many books as our local library actual possesses and still have more books in my core library.

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    1. It is sad about libraries. Not sure were they went wrong. Should they have stayed non-fiction to remain a po boy college? Should they never been allowed to offer movies? Did they stay open with subsidized Internet access ( remember the big deal about how everyone would have broadband access, and how South Korea had a larger % of its population hooked up than we did, back in the 90's or early 00's? )? I get a better deal from KU than my local library, and they were the bomb for years, one of the better ones.

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