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Tuesday, May 30, 2017

living on I-80 post 1 of 2 today


post 1 of 2 today
LIVING ON THE INTERSTATE
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Interstate highways are one of those Evil Incarnate items yuppie scum survivalists look at and cringe and gasp over.  Oh My Friggin God, Becky, look at their butts!  All those POOR people.  Like, groady, dude.  Poor people have cars and they want to come take our food and violate our women!  Sweet Baby Jesus, rich people sound the same now as they did 150 years ago ( OOOO, dude, look at all those BLACK people.  They want to violate our women! ).  Don’t get me wrong, rich humpers are equally prejudice to all colors but green.  And by rich, I mean aspiring rich also.  If you ain’t a redneck, you are either a rich humper or want to be one.  Same difference.  You think you are better than me because you have money.  I’m sure you are quite proud of the fact you were able to game the system, but hump to very much.  You are as much of a weasel as lawyers helping to double the cost of everything through litigation fears.  You are not better than one who toils honestly, that is for DAMN sure.

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Anyway, you are scolded and chastised if you even so much as THINK about moving anywhere near an Interstate highway.  Because, you know, poor people will zip on over, smell you out because obviously your crap don’t stink, and then rape your women ( or, even worse, take your MRE’s and FLIR scopes ).  Now, please don’t think that I’ve ever even considered Yuppie Scum Survivalists as being all that rational, but even for them this one is a huge leap.  They know about gasoline being a JIT inventory item, they should know the electrical grid is way over aged and over burdened, and yet they think Golden Hordes will have the fuel to reach your retreat location?  Nobody can drive three hundred miles to smite your ass because every city will, with only a fraction of the population leaving, experience gridlock.  One car runs out of gas from stop and start traffic and then the driver abandons the car in the lane and suddenly traffic backs up and creates more gridlock and then more people run out of gas and suddenly every road system surrounding every city looks like Houston during the hurricane evacuation. 

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Not to mention all the wasted time and gas at every exit as motorists look for fuel and food and lodging.  Every entrance will have vehicles trying to force their way in, and every road away from the city decreasing the number of lanes will form congestion.  You are looking at a parking lot, not a means of transportation delivering attackers.  Which doesn’t mean Interstates are safe.  Near the city, they are not.  But while getting the hell out of the big cities is smart, discounting a smaller city to live in because it is near the Interstate isn’t necessarily.  In times of energy decline, in fact, being away from that major trucker thoroughfare might see no supplies getting to you.  You’d have been safe come the collapse, it is just too bad you couldn’t wait it out for that there.  Not every collapse will be overnight, nor easily recovered from.  You must factor in the lead up to collapse and prepare for that.  Which includes out of the way burgs being denied transportation of goods ( it can easily be an economic denial, not necessarily a government dictate ).

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You of course smirk, but consider how quickly New Orleans was rebuilt.  You had no choice but to move elsewhere, on your dime.  The worst affected areas were simply abandoned.  Will your hideaway hovel up in Idaho, now on the Do Not Plow list after severe budget cuts, get resupplied?  Or will it be up to you to go WAY out of your way to go get supplies.  Again, people, this is what energy decline looks like.  You can’t assume it is supplies one day and complete collapse the next.  The transition phases are going to be a bitch.  Will there be gas, or jobs to have gas money, to exist in these idyllic prepper paradises?  I’m certainly not saying they are a poor choice, just that logic dictates every location has its Achilles Heel.  As does every strategy.  Even mine, although mine is the least worst ( well, I have to say that, don’t I? ).

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Yuppie Scum Survivalists tell us to relocate to the West, that the West is the Best.  But the western Interstates, until relatively close to the big cities, are passing through desolate wilderness.  There is nothing there.  Yes, that makes you somewhat vulnerable since there are so few roads and the one you are on will be a target just from lack of choices.  But that assumes the fuel to reach you and then the complete lack of locales to oppose you.  I’m right on I-80 and I could give a crap less that anybody from Idaho Falls, Las Vegas, Reno or Salt Lake City MIGHT wander out this way.  Even eliminating the neighboring threat of those living in Elko, as desolate and huge as Elko County is, there are STILL a good ten to twenty thousand residents living there ( Elko is 20k population.  Elko County is about 60k.  Discounting the few small towns, there are still a lot of rural residents ).  Some of them will be coming my way, and likely before the idiots from the big city do.  You should always fear the locales before the potential long distant immigrants, come a collapse ( as opposed to the current threat from Muslims and Latinos threatening to come our way ).

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Between traffic jams and lack of gas assuring few city folk ever reaching you, given the regular spaces dividing western locations, to the more urgent need to fear your neighbors, I think that the Interstate prohibition is ill founded.  It is on par with Eastern Oregon being pushed as a Tri-State retreat area.  It can be done in Oregon, and Interstates do bear a SMALL amount of concern, but by and large you should ignore both.

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16 comments:

  1. The standard survivalist view of the Golden Horde also overlooks the actual mindset of most city folk. City folk see rural areas as teeming with danger and unknown threats. Rural people see the cities the same way. People hunker down unless it is a geographically specific threat. A collapse does not come from a cardinal direction.

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    1. Good point, one I should have been far more aware of. Thanks. We all fear the unknown.

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    2. Son , I've been throwing that thought your direction for years now.
      If you'll recall my stating that city folks are scared silly of the swamp or woods around these parts. Few know of the abundance of food located there. Nor have the knowledge to use it.

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    3. True, and I haven't forgotten ( I'm one of the ones scared silly of the swamp ). I was referring more to rural fearing the unknown of the urban. Race more than geography.

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  2. Rural sheeple will be so much more dangerous than urban Sheeple if for no other reason than they are tough enough and resourcefull enough to survive the initail die off before they get really desperate. Aussie

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    1. Urban living does take its own type of toughness. Actual urban core living, not suburb or snob hill living.

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    2. Yes true but rat cunning street smarts want do you a whole lot of good after the taps dry up and the food runs out. Rural areas the food and water will last longer, long enough to realise the true seriousness of the situation. Aussie

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    3. Will the rural food last longer? Local suburbs and small town unprepped residents might say different.

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    4. Farming and ranching communities will suffer more from spoilage and loss and lack of infrastructure to plant and harvest than from lack of raw food initially. But even here in a farming community with a mennonite religious colony only just a little ways away, most peoples daily food is manufactured pap shipped in from hundreds or thousands of miles away. The people here are in for a dietary shock when they have to process and eat what is grown around here (beef, buffalo, beans, beats, wheat and rye) And to do so without freezers or industrial economy equipment? :0 !
      but unless they are emptied to sell to the cities first their is years worth of grains/beans in the silos for the area. Heck there is probably years worth for the community in just what gets SPILLED in the transferring and shipping.

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    5. Damn, that sounds like a pretty good food variety to me!

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    6. Rural areas, around here at least, people run there own water and sawerage systems, thats 2 things that will kill alot of urban sheeple. Country people tend to buy food in bulk, even the unprepared, I would recon they would on average have over a weeks more food than the urban sheeple. And as Mr Grey mentioned above, many areas have large stocks of grain and plenty of livestock to eat. Bulk easily procured calories. All this will mean the majority will survive the inatial die off, long enough to become really scared and desperate. Aussie

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    7. Their own water and sewer. Aren't you guys really big on rain catchment? Here, mostly wells. No power, no water, no sewer.

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    8. Yer the whole country, outside of large towns and cities, runs of collected rain water. Rural Aussies are the only demographic thats armed to the teeth as well. Umm maybe rural Americans sheeple want last much longer than there urban cousins. Aussie

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    9. Are you guys as bad as the US for relying on imported oil? You probably never got as dependent on long distant road trucks-how easy would it be in isolation to feed yourselves?

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    10. 20yrs ago or there abouts Autralia was nearly self suficiant in oil, but now most of our fuel comes in already refined from Singapor. South China seas blows up and we are back in the stone age in about a months time. Aussie

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    11. Discount fracking oil and we are 25% self-sufficient in oil. But that includes deep sea Gulf Of Mexico and the almost gone Alaska. We couldn't even feed ourselves.

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