Thursday, July 2, 2015

retreat now! 3


Having filled you in on my situation, I hope this answers the question of whether you should move yourself.  IF your town is relatively small and IF you are very close to your retreat and IF living in town demands little to no financial burden and IF you are conversant in off-grid living already, than NO, you needn’t move to your retreat now.  How many of us can really say that?  Look, I understand that you don’t want to give up luxuries and give up money and risk a marriage upset by moving from the city to the junk land.  Who would?  I mean, sure, in my case it was a financial boon since I went from $400 a month travel trailer rent to a $100 a month land payment ( and I stayed in the same trailer ) and I couldn’t really afford luxuries before anyway ( rather than use the hot water tank, we bathed in a pot of hot water from the coffee pot, etc. ).  And my relationship was already crap so pissing her off further was of little consequence.  I understand not everyone can have the good fortune of being in my circumstances ( smile, wink, sarcasm mode on ).  But living in the city is stupid.  If things go south quickly, as in quickly enough for the TSA to restrict road travel, you are stuck around too many people.  And if the economy keeps getting worse ( gee, figure those odds ) you will eventually be in a situation where all those wonderful high wages a city offers goes away, or is cut way down or is taxed at a higher rate.  You can only protect yourself in this central banker run economy by NOT being beholden to them through debt. 


High wages are ZERO security because high wages can be withheld on a whim.  You must understand your employer.  If you earn money, he loses that money.  Employers don’t see your wages as an investment, regardless of your return in profits.  They see you as a necessary expense.  Which they will eliminate as needed or as afforded the opportunity.  Period.  Wages are NOT security.  Less expenses ARE security.  You don’t need forty acres and a mortgage on a farm to be secure.  An acre of desert, an underground shelter, a few hundred dollars of wheat and some chickens ( wheat for you, an alternate food source for the chickens, hopefully ), a few solar panels ( under $2 a watt for Chinese panels, you would be extra retarded for not buying those NOW, before they disappear ).  This is security.  Okay, luxury it ain’t.  You move out to your retreat, and the one month you just saved for not paying rent on your old home can buy plenty of luxuries.  You don’t have to be as primitive as I was.  My example was on how to do things on a bare bones budget.  Not all of us are at the same low wages/savings I was.  Your job as the husband is figuring out how to do things cheaply, but listen to the wife about WHAT is luxury.  You don’t have a clue.  And remember that you need to place her in a position that is higher in her hen flock pecking order.  Ask her about that, too, but diplomatically ( don’t insult her by making it seem superficial or unnecessary.  Use tact ).  Anyway, a bit off track.  You know which way the economic winds are blowing.  Act now while you can, but act smart.

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  1. Prioritize -
    1) Land (you have to have a place to BUILD on) that cannot easily be taken away by law or crime).
    2) Shelter (you have to have a structure or 12 to store your self and stuff in).
    3) Food & cooking (this is currently still fairly cheap, and easily accessible, get some, and as you use it get more until you are comfortable, or have enough for everyone you know for the rest of your lives, then buy some more- but you can buy it piece-meal after an initial little cushion)
    4) Water (rainfall collection, cistern, well, and misc. stored water PLUS enough filters and treatment supplies)
    5) Security (now that you have something to try and keep, you need a way to keep it, not just guns, but alarms, fences, dogs, awareness, caches, etc)
    6) Energy/Light (solar panels, batteries, charge controllers, inverters, LED lights, etc)
    7) Heat/cooling (if your primary shelter is earth sheltered this will be more minimal than essential, otherwise it goes way up in priorities).
    8) Communications ( now you are in the realm of luxuries).
    9) Other Luxuries as desired and affordable.

    Don't expect to move to the retreat right away if you are married- but DO go "camping" there frequently. And use your "camping" time to get to know the land and develop the 9 priorities above. Note that #9 gets moved up to #1 if the spouse is getting unhappy. Adding a luxury that makes the spouse happy pays off big time with further help from the spouse for priorities #s 1 - 9.

    1. And all this crap, even #9, is so affordable I could write blog articles forever on it.

    2. Good post, Grey.

      You should expand on it a little and submit it as a guest article.

      Idaho Homesteader

  2. Jim, how much rain do you get in a year?

    I would almost think that putting a buried 1,200 gallon cistern on the secondary property might be my first priority. Put a cheap Harbor Frieght pitcher pump on it and you'd be in business.

    Hubby and I (before kids) could make that last 3 months. And that wasn't even trying to be frugal with water like you are.

    Even before you get a building up with a metal roof, you could use tarps to catch rainwater to fill it.

    Idaho Homesteader

    1. Only 10 inches a year, including snow. Not the worst idea. Might have to start with a 300 gal, but better than what I have now. Or, I roof over the crap trailer at old land, a hole is already there, under $500 total that way.