Tuesday, January 21, 2020

ammo quantity/quality


AMMO QUANTITY/QUALITY
What is preferable, quality or quantity in ammunition? Asking from the perspective that time is as short as money, which would you want to focus on. This is NOT a Northern Idaho Survivalist Yuppie Scum Website where someone went to the dentist office and picked up an issue of National Geographic ( just another mainstream media Pravda outlet now, journalistic integrity long ago sacrificed on the alter of Mammon ) and never having heard of Peak Oil before, assumes they are printing the truth when they magically roll back the date to 2030. Just reclassify “conventional” to “anything combustible”, and voila!
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Thank you communists, for teaching me that merely changing words or definitions means reality can be altered. I'd like to change “free blog” to “mandatory Deplorable read at $20 a month fee”. It's far more likely to happen than females besting men physically. And since I WANT it, that must be all the required reasoning. 'Murica!, hump yeah! Sorry there, goobers, but Peak was in 2005 and fracking won't save your ass. Time is short, so get your head out of your backside.
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In 2013, the US was only producing about one million barrels a day from fracking. Last year, it was a bit over six million. But last year, we had already peaked in fracking oil production. With companies going bankrupt quickly, already, how much longer do you think it is going to be for production to once again fall back down to one million barrels a day? I would wager a jelly filled donut that it isn't another six years. Without fracking oil, we would not have survived the 2008 economic collapse, and since that time the PetroDollar has weakened appreciably. And no, Francis, the world doesn't need to freely sell us the oil we want. National oil companies are government controlled.
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Was I the only one who noticed that at the peak of fracking oil production, the liquidity crises had started? The derivatives bad bets are coming home to roost, and the extra energy thrown at the economy is already failing to save us. Can you imagine how much worse the economy gets as energy supplies fall? It isn't as Happy Motoring as “cheaper gasoline”. Enough production goes off line from falling prices, the bigger the next price hike from lack of supply. Now add in Peak Fracking to the ongoing economic collapse, and all your butt boys on the Internet selling ammunition, as well as the manufacturers and raw supply companies, are going out of business.
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Care to add in the political component to this equation? More states tax the hell out of ammunition, or more states pass “license to buy ammo” as California has done, and suddenly you cannot legally buy ammo. From whoever is left after mass bankruptcies. Well now, I guess your ability to buy ammunition prior to the collapse has taken a big squishy, hasn't it? So perhaps you don't have Business As Usual until 2030, or 2040, or whatever mythical happy date in the future the propaganda pictured you riding a unicorn in. Do any of you even remember 2008 onward? Did King Kenya distract you from the collapse, as his election was intended to?
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Yeah, who was going to vote for a rich old White dude, again? That didn't really work out, Patriot Act and all. And a bitch for a running mate didn't exactly sweeten that pot. And then, a Mormon? Even if the only thing that pops into folks heads when they hear Mormon is Multiple Wives, the media made sure to play up that Secret Underwear meme, or the Evil Investment Fund. Obammy was supposed to keep you focused on politics rather than the economy.
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You are again played for the sucker, with Orange Man. I'm not complaining, because Hilary, but we were still played. Hilary was never meant to win, Globalist Pro-Jewish Homeland That Dare Not Speak Its Name former Democrat Epstein ( who didn't kill himself ) buddy rich bitch blue blood east coaster New York City liberal Orange Man was meant to win, so that once again you focused on politics rather than the economy. Did you remember how the Fed bailed out all those foreign central banks, to the tune of nearly $20 trillion with a T?
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Even if you refuse to believe oil is at the heart of all this, surely you cannot deny our overseas military is inefficient, our allies leaving us after too much abuse, our economic collapse never stopped and the decline continued for a decade, with it becoming exponentially worse? Even if the end of the American Empire is ONLY economic rather than energy driven, surely you understand we are beyond hosed. Gun control, and ammunition control, never left the agenda. It was suspended during Black Jesus, in effect buying the Deplorable silence, even if grudgingly, and now going full bore under your favorite orange RINO.
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The haste could be contributed to the fact that the economic collapse is real this time, and the peasants need to surrender their pitchforks. It could be that the Republicans want gun control as much as Dems, and are allowing the communists full reign. I would even imagine the whole board of the NRA has been bought off to allow LaPeirra unrestricted looting to eliminate the organization financially. At least the communists know there is more than one way to skin a cat. The Deplorables all just vote, and mumble about a Red Line they keep moving.
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Whatever the goings on behind the scenes, whoever is pulling the puppets strings, gun control is moving at the speed of light. If California is still a bellwether, you should expect ammunition control to be next, and probably nationally. Orange Bitch has already proven he could a crap about the Second Amendment ( if you minions elect me El Presidente For Life, I will change the task of the CIA to assassinate anyone, even Supreme Court Justices or state politicians or US Senators, that tries to restrict any of the Bill Of Rights. Plus, remember my other campaign promise, a promissory note for a SAW to anyone that votes for me ).
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Neither economic collapses or gun and ammo confiscation is any longer a theoretical event. They are rear view mirror events. If you don't have enough ammo, buy a lot more. SG Ammo dot com is the best buy for your buck. If you have enough ammo, start burying most of it. Plastic has never been cheaper ( or at least so available in so many forms ). Use it. As far as the weak ass response, “but, if I need to bury it it is already time to use it”, Sweet Baby Jesus On A Rollercoaster! For humps sake, that is why One Is None. Have enough guns and ammo NOT buried so as to fight immediately. Bury enough to fight a very long time.
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But, budget! Bitch! You can still get an AR for $350-$400. If I can put one together, the worlds biggest non-mechanical klutz, you can put one together. The book is below in the daily link. And the ammunition CAN be dirt cheap, as low as $195 per thousand with sales tax and delivered. Should you buy that cheap? We cover that tomorrow. I hope today you learned how little time you have.
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49 comments:

  1. Yes. Unless a Minionite is in an 'advanced' marksman category with training -and- the higher end equipment on hand then match ammo or those brands with high brow marketing terminology terms for bullet construction methods or unobtainium materials is a fool's errand. The bulk overrun general purpose stuff will work just fine. The shooter always has to step it up to perform to level of the gun and ammo. Don't blame the steel cased, import, mass churned out ammo for flubbed shots. (Fire and um, manuever some too, yo!) Price differences of money saved always default goes towards food anyway. Not sacrificing anything.

    I am thinking it was never asked what kind of ammo put the bodies in the ditch or the wounded in the medical tents. Stay frosty.

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    1. Yeah, why most folks think they are Audie Murphy...

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    2. Audie Murphy? Not me. I'm Clint Eastwood "A man must know his limitations"

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    3. I assume you mean the Clint that had to go trade his pistol for a shotgun? :)

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    4. Hey man, no hating on Clint Eastwood, seeing targets through squinty eyes can get tough especially when you are older. Better a shotgun to spread the love, you dig ? :^)

      Shotgun ammunition is heavy, but is also easier to load under stress. You want to load rimfire cartridges in a magazine when taking hostile fire ? Shit, you will be mimicking Don Knotts, dropping ammunition as you try to load it. That is where pre-loaded magazines have a huge advantage over other designs.

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    5. I haven't seen Don Knots since I was a kid. Funny dude. I didn't appreciate the Clint scene until I got older. It was funny, now it is funny AND sad :) That movie is near 30 years old and it seems like it was just a little while ago.

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  2. For me, a few hundred high quality rounds for a firearm to get through a fast moving crisis. Lots and lots of reliable, low cost ammo so that you have something to make the gun a legitimate deterrent. E.g, a few hundred good 9mm hollow points and lots of solid point 9mm ammo that cycles in your firearm.

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    1. Just like you do today, a few boxes of quality for the burglar, cases of crap for the apocalypse

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    2. Use your premium ammo for two situations. The first is when the crisis is young, people still have most of their body weight, and still have alcohol and drugs to reduce their inhibitions and pain when they attack you. This is when you need as close to an instant stop as possible. After everyone is a "skinny" and no longer has access to drugs and alcohol, the stops will be faster with lesser ammo. The other situation is when you're using FMJ at a certain distance, but they begin closing in on you and you need each round to be much more effective, RIGHT NOW, because they just breached your perimeter.
      Romans 14:11

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    3. Great points, thank you. I completely overlooked that.

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    4. There is, or was, a lot of shitty 9mm out there cheap that was loaded pretty hot for use in 9mm smg's - it's loud, dirty, hard on weapon, yourself, and accuracy.

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  3. “This is NOT a Northern Idaho Survivalist Yuppie Scum Website where someone went to the dentist office and picked up an issue of National Geographic”.


    Hey, say what you will, but that magazine was a god send to us boys in the 70’s, with a bone through the nose, saggy african titty fetish :D

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    1. I must still have the fetish, as the-literally-old lady has exactly that type. No need to chase after the young-un's.

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  4. If the US military didn’t blast through petroleum in the same manner that Richard Simmons and Todd Chrisley blast through Anal-Eze®, we might actually have enough to last a few more decades :D

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+much+oil+does+the+US+military+use+compared+to+the+rest+of+the+world%3F&ia=web&atb=v1-1

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/A-Look-At-US-Military-Energy-Consumption.html

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    1. But if the military didn't blast through oil, it couldn't control what oil we have left to import to the US. Kind of like spending money to make money.

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  5. Jim's homebuilt $350 AR and Tula steel case ammo....AKA the caveman's club after the "click" or a squib.
    Lol.

    But his shiny hair will make for a wonderful scalp addition to his opponent's tippee while his flesh is sundried for jerky.

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    1. As long as the hair is revered, my legend will live on.

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    2. I have built $350 PSA builds. Closer to $425 with the increasing prices. They may not be sub MOA but even a 1-2 MOA will get the job done. They go bang and cycle. I have AKs and SKSs that are less accurate but i wouldn't feel under gunned. The basic build excedes the 80/20 concept.

      As for the Steel cased ammo, i have always worried about extractor damage so I go for brass but the commie guns eat it up.

      And Yes Lord Bison, the hair excedes any 80's band hair.

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    3. I don't know if that is much of a compliment. The 80's hair, to me, trended towards faggy. The 70's guys at least had facial hair to go with the long hair. I watched a YouTube vid once, a guy who worked with metal tested the steel case ammo and said the steel, untreated, was softer than brass. I still don't trust steel in my beloved Enfield's, but I trust the AR to run it. But I understand your caution regardless. Cheapest PSA kit, $300. Cheapest lower with background check $55. Cheapest middlin quality rear site, $20. $375, but that is if the planets align. I think everyone knows this is it for buying semi's. The state level alone, regardless of the Fed contest. Prices are going to keep inching up.

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    4. I guess it isn't fair to include the background check, just as we don't include sales tax or shipping in cost calculations. So, amend to $355. Here is a $299 kit:
      https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-freedom-5-56-nato-1-7-midlength-nitride-odg-freedom-rifle-kit-5165449753.html

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  6. Is it just me, or does Anon()() just come off as a sanctimonious prick with his comments? We get it guy, you're the smartest one in the room. He must be a real treat at parties. SMH

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    1. I don't see him that way. It is either playful sarcasm, or righteous indignation I would ever utter X, Y or Z. Remember, without facial clues or inflection, discussion by the written word can be fraught with danger. And few of us have the experience of correspondence.

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    2. Ok, point taken. I've certainly had issues misreading text messages and such that came off as hostile. Without the face to face interaction a lot of communication gets lost. Nonetheless, those that feel the need to correct everyone, all the time, irk the shizz outta me. Must just be having one of those days today. Carry on good Sir.

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    3. JL-bad hair days are allowed. No need to worry. I am so blessed with lack of trolls ( why I now moderate, it automatically discourages the worst behavior ) that it is easier to see better intentions

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    4. But you never seem to care about my sometimes snarky comments...

      Six Years stopped by for a couple days respite from his travels. I'd heard tell that his auxillary motor on his sailboat was wonkey. Just happened that I still had my reserve spare outboard motor in storage along with all my other stockpile of preps. 2 is one ya know !
      So I gave he and his lovely wife a good deal on a never used , new old stockpiled little Honda outboard.

      We preppers gotta help tribe...Bison knows this and walks the talk. As does Six Years in the Woods too.
      What comes around , goes round. Tribe is good.

      Dayum , talk about walking the walk. Six and his wife are currently tent camping up in the Ocala...it is 32° as I write this brrr ! How many guys have wives willing to tent camp in winter ?

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    5. Yeah, there’s some other douche lorraine (Whose name shall go unmentioned) that posts here as of more recent, that’s clearly a leftist troll.

      The MO is always the same. All of the red state/counties that he visits/lives in, are filled with lowlife, lazy, thieving, meth-head, white trash. But of course, all of the minorities are hard working, honest, paragons of virtue. That’s cool with me. As long as he continues to believe that, and stays in the blue shithole that he’s from, all is well :D

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    6. I don't know, I still think he's okay. Polite and doesn't really stir the pot. It's good to have divergent views, to a point.
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      Spud-you're snarky? :)

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    7. Naw, not me.
      Gawd damn spell check...need to proof read more , before posting chit...

      My earlier comment was meant to be Six Bears not Years duh

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    8. Okay, that makes more sense. Computers only try to pretend to be our friends. And with friends like those...

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  7. I voted for Hillary but there was a conspiracy theory pre-election that Hillary had hired Orange Buffoon to run against her and of course, lose. If true, she was not betting on the number of inbred mouth-breathers in this fine land!

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    1. Let's just remember, the vote would be illegal if it mattered. Hilary is a twat and bat crap crazy, Orange Julius is an idiot and bat crap crazy. I can't stand listening to either one of them talk. They insult my intelligence every time their lips start flapping.

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    2. “If true, she was not betting on the number of inbred mouth-breathers in this fine land!”


      Right. Because after all, imagine from the standpoint of an arrogant communist such as yourself, a group of men lacking the “sophistication” to vote for a woman (And I use that term loosely) that labeled them as “Deplorables”. Sounds as if the inbreed mouth breeders still have a several IQ point lead on yourself.

      Note to self: Must contact Firefox ASAP about a block feature plugin for Blogger.

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    3. Careful now, getting a bit too hot under the collar. Please keep it civil. I can't imagine why anyone would vote for Commie Twat myself, but RINO Orange Man isn't the prize most make him out to be. Voting communist isn't ALWAYS a poor choice. Look at Bush Sr. Why would anyone have reelected that evil humper, regardless of the other choice? Hell, he probably did more harm than many Democrats ever did, combined. Just saying.

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    4. Spud-I really tried. If for no other reason than to be contrary and disagree with you LOL. But trying to listen to just one two minute clip of Prez Orange is like shoving a razor covered dildo up my ass as I'm reaching for the cereal on the top shelf. Sure, you get an extra inch or two as you recoil from the pain, but in the end it isn't worth it.

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    5. I think that after however long we must tolerate the Orange Shit Gibbon. It will not surprise me to find no one willing to admit having voted for that scum...

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    6. Yeah, those photo's with a certain red hat will come back to haunt a few LOL One great thing about Shrub-his replacement was worse. Great thing about Obammy-his replacement was worse. Great thing about Trump? Guaranteed worse replacement.

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  8. There's plenty of free info out there on how to assemble an AR.
    PDF's and videos.
    I hate the word "build" when referring to the assembling of something out of pre-manufactured parts. Building is done with raw materials.
    Signed,
    Sgt Frugal

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    1. Fair point. I felt I needed a "idiots guide" myself.

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  9. Also, :)

    Glad I got a chuckle out of you!

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    1. That last one, the bald cat ( or whatever the heck it was ) with the gold coins and recycled potato chip bags. Yeah, another burst out loud one. You are a bizarre little man. Please keep it up!

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  10. Ammo is a funky subject... But first you need to have firearms in popular calibers. 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO are very common rifle calibers as is .30-06 and the ubiquitous .22 and .22 magnum. I would stay away from the exotic calibers just because of the availability issue. Reloading can alleviate that concern.
    I strongly advocate reloading your own brass to cut costs and improve consistency. You can get the basic equipment and consumables for a single caliber for under $300. That will reload a few hundred rounds. Ignoring equipment costs, it costs me about 60 cents a round to reload .30-06 ammo. That's about 1/2 of retail. Every caliber after that will set you back a set of dies and some powder, primers and bullets. Many calibers will use the same primers and powder. So there's potential saving and redundancy there. Also and an important consideration is pistol vs handgun. For example I can reload 1300 pistol rounds out of a pound of powder. I only get 130 rifle rounds out of a pound of powder...
    A pound of powder costs between $25 and $40 depending on what you get.
    1000 primers is $30. Bullets can be spendy.
    I can reload a thousand rounds of my handgun ammo for $160 plus tax...
    Depending on the press you get it'll take a day, maybe 2 to process that much ammo.
    Send me an email of you want some more info or suggestions. My name at gmail.

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    1. I'm not sure about the common caliber, if you have all the brass you'll need. Even Swiss or French weird calibers aren't impossible to get, especially with that European ammo company. PPC? Sportsman's carries a lot of it, even if the name escapes me right now. I was buying new 303B for the same price as 308

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  11. sorry, I think I misread initial question. But reloading gives you much greater consistency if you're meticulous. Save money and get match grade. That's a win win.

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  12. The problem with theexotic calibers is recovering brass during and after a firefight or while on the run from whatever zombies/UN Marxists/Golden Horde that's seeking to harm you.
    Recovering brass at the range or the deer stand is pretty easy.
    In a post collapse scenario the brass may be scarce. As well as consumables.

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  13. True story, about 4 years ago I picked up a compound bow really cheap at a yard sale. I shot it several times but it bruised my fingertips really bad. Consequently I sold it thinking "That much pain for that short an effective range is a bad deal".
    A year later someone gave me another compound bow. Complete setup...
    I'm keeping this one because I figure God knows I'm gonna have a need for it in the future.
    Same thing happened 8 years ago with motor homes. Sure enough, I'm a full time RV dweller now. Didn't set out to be but circumstances worked out that way. We may not know where God is taking us, but looking back with open eyes, his handiwork is plainly visible.

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    1. Feel free to post on current day article, if you want to share with all readers. Just open with "off topic, but..." or similar so as not to confuse ( and, you'll confuse ME first LOL )

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