Friday, September 6, 2019

relocation issues 2


RELOCATION ISSUES 2
I don't think its been three years now, since the BlueBellies went Full Retard. Before, King Kenya screwed up the entire country. “If you like your health care, you can keep it. Just pay quadruple”. But as soon as Dementia Debbie didn't get the throne, the Blues started making every single Red State a craphole to live in anymore. There is no need to look any further than 2016's election loss as the start of the up front war against the Deplorables ( if you don't have wheat and ammo, you have already lost the guerrilla war ).
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I'm not saying this wasn't planned and executed by a small cabal much smarter and saner than the Blues. Those are just the Useful Idiots. The Bankers unleashed their pets to distract us from the accelerating economic collapse. And along with economic collapse come government funding cuts, so you can bet the Intelligence Services and the like are voluntarily going along with the ongoing False Flags to push Red Flags. The LEO's need soft and vulnerable targets ( the drug dealers are getting too militarized ) to stay in power, and falsely accused White Males surrounded by hostile forces are perfect.
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Every Red state, with its voter base confined to Blue Zones, safely tucked away from the riff raff, will make life a living Hell for those just wishing to escape their Clown Car Demolition Derby. Remember, they are funded by and controlled by and shielded by the bankers. We cannot fight them head on, and voting while quick and painless is as effective as a fart in a hurricane. You can move to ANY “good” state and the trouble will still follow you. Honestly, with the exception of a few areas, it doesn't matter where you go-you can no longer escape demographics.
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Don't vote with your feet to Go Red. Vote to avoid crowds and, at best, maybe, postpone your area going Full Retard for just a little while. But you aren't investing in a guarantee. JUST a postponement. I wouldn't go to a state where I couldn't buy ammo, or a pellet gun needed a license, or you can't buy a 80% lower, but beyond that, it doesn't really matter where you live as long as you minimize population. Again, there is NO guaranteed free state. Washington state, supposedly wonderful and part of the redoubt, is going quickly anti-gun. Don't get me started on Oregon.
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Texas won't be free much longer. The folks there can bluster all they want, but Cali retirees flush with real estate lottery winnings and Hispanics following the work ( the downside of a booming economy is the scum floating over to it ) are quickly coloring the place Blue. They will be where Nevada is now, quick enough. Montana is a lost cause, soon to be Colorado. Idaho cities are looking like Little Mecca and Little Diversity Central. The cities control the rural, remember? And, no matter how great your place, economic refugees ( poor White trash, Meth Mexicans, etcetera ) will follow you and spoil it.
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Do NOT move to try to win politically. Do not move to try to win demographically. Certainly do not move to try to win economically ( duh. 2008 Redux is already here. The silence is the car cresting the roller coaster top-the screaming will start soon enough ). All you can do is minimize the local population while still finding a job, while maximizing the distance to the big city. There is no more perfect states any longer. Just a few to avoid at all costs. Otherwise pick the least evil area. Focus locally instead of state wide.
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Stuck in NJ or NY or Cali? Get a RV ( it cannot be too old, sorry. This isn't a frugal answer ). Move to a gun friendly state ( put the house up for sale, turn off utilities. Make it legal ). Order a bunch of eight zero percent lowers. Order kits. Order cases of steel ammo. If the house doesn't sell, move back to your CrapTastic location. Bury the now illegal items. Hopefully while at the new home you regrettably had to leave after just a few months, you lived near farm country and got a bunch of wheat.
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Remember, first they come for your guns. Which has already started, under Orange Man who did nothing to stop it. Then they can starve you. It isn't just dudes with uber cool mustaches ( I think minions should be required to have mustaches. Not you, Marge-unless you can only get rid of it by waxing. Which is way too painful ) that will starve you. Sherman killed a lot of civilians by destroying crops and livestock. It has ALREADY happened here. And centralizing production is the first step in it happening again.
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You need protection, but without food, they starve you onto the train cars before you run out of bullets. Wheat alone? Sucks monkey balls. No wheat at all? You'll wish you had wheat. It is at least a base calorie delivery system, so you aren't so weak you cannot fight back. One round of ammo costs the same as one days minimal calories. Don't be a dumbass- food is just as much a defensive weapon as guns are. No one is too poor not to get both. NOW.
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Now, with priorities returning to the basics, we can forget the old school tactic of needing to move to another part of the country. Staying right where you are, you take weekends and vacations and just drive as far enough away as you can, to a location far less populated. If in NYC, you can drive to upstate Saturday morning and have time to look around. You all might as well use your cars while you still can ( the fracking industry will implode and overseas imports will cease, and only the timing is in question ).
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Can't afford rent or a house? Get that used RV and stay in a park ( find out the average maximum RV age parks require, before buying the thing ). Half the rent of apartments. You can stay safely where you are as you get a travel trailer and find a job elsewhere. Will your new home suck as bad as the old one? In a lot of ways, yes. But you have put distance between you and everyone else. Will a town of twenty thousand be any safer than one of two hundred thousand? Yes, even if it is STILL too many people.
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Can't store supplies in an RV? Have a friend you can bury supplies in the back forty? How about rent a patch of land from him to park a shed on, if you can't bring up prepping? How about going camping every weekend and burying caches ( yes, problems with wildfires and etcetera. Every solution has an imperfection )? Nobody is stuck or without solutions. Just stop looking for the perfect answer. Those already disappeared. Look for a Better Than Nothing.
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Addendum- my experiment with the 80 lower was an unmitigated disaster.  If you are not skilled, like me, carefully consider this option.  It isn't as easy as YouTube folks tell you.  Not for a novice.  Or at least a novice going frugal on the equipment.  Sad Panda :( That story up soon.
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40 comments:

  1. Having just supplies and parts n pieces amounts to nothing if you don't have practical skills to utilize the stuff.
    Skills can only be developed with practice !
    You cannot purchase them.
    Cheap shit begats shitty results. One can turn chicken shit into chicken salad...with much practice.

    My mustache has never been shaved off. Only trimmed to keep from eating it.

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    1. Sometimes you need to start with crap equipment. If nothing else, you ruin it practicing. Then move up. It's a sliding scale. I don't need an expensive screwdriver. An inexpensive level is worthless.

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    2. Actually < knowing the limits of any particular tool is a huge part of having skills. Used within its limits, even a cheap tool is fine. Skill is involved to know the limits before trying to use it properly on any job.
      You can waste a whole lot of cheap tools by miss using them. Which too , can become much more expensive than just buying the proper tool.
      There just is no substitute for experience and the only way to get it, is by trying.
      I'd just run up the road to Idaho and buy something second hand lol

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    3. Isn't part of experience wasting money? Well, okay, it is with me :)

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    4. I think that true of everyone Jim

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    5. That's why the young'uns don't listen-they want to waste money too.

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  2. I know that you are authentic because I suspect that you aren't selling real estate or trading in wheat commodities, and the like. Before getting referred to Bison (?) Prepper, I was reading others who advised the big thing about location was, first, water. Looking outside the greater LA Basin is a good suggestion when you need to get your scattered clan out. Water, and wheat, would be paramount.

    Jim, I have read articles about the Nevada governor and his stance on firearms and he seems like he and his liberal cohorts in the Nev legislature will change the gun freedoms your state enjoys today. I hope I am wrong.

    Thank you for writing this blog.

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    1. Water is important, obviously. And a lot of places with some water won't grow crap. Water just to live on? Rare that a place doesn't get enough water from rain. I'm aware Nevada is going Full Retard on guns. Working overtime on that issue. And you are welcome-writing is first and foremost my pleasure. Getting paid is secondary.

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    2. Saving grace is nevada's bi annual legislative sessions and the rush to fund things for the chilluns first for votes they only got to background checks on private party gun transfer folks this time around. (Which there will be non adherrence between vast majority of those private dealings.) It is like colorado or washington, hinterlands will ignore state 'edicts' in their areas. Choose hermitages based upon hinterland autonomy and viability. Carry on, that is all.

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    3. Now is a good time to become interested in Sheriff elections again. They can be a valuable buffer, or a Quisling in your midst.

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  3. “Don't vote with your feet to Go Red. Vote to avoid crowds and, at best, maybe, postpone your area going Full Retard for just a little while. But you aren't investing in a guarantee. JUST a postponement. I wouldn't go to a state where I couldn't buy ammo, or a pellet gun needed a license, or you can't buy a 80% lower, but beyond that, it doesn't really matter where you live as long as you minimize population.”


    Last I checked, North Dakota was one state that was losing population. South Dakota gained population, but it was very small, like 1/3 of a %. But SD also voted in a female democrat gov, and if that isn’t a bad omen, then I don’t know what is. That said, I think that you’re right in that it is more practical to stay where you are, and just go more rural where you will be left alone. Just choose wisely. There were some people living in the desert east of LA, minding their own business, and the local Commiefornia gov ran them off their land. Even Commiefornia though, has potential, since it is a huge state (This assumes that you have all of your guns and ammo in place already, since you now need to be background check approved to buy ammo in this state).

    Someone in yesterday’s comments mentioned Kansas and Nebraska, and that they were too flat. This is true; they are flatter than Kevin Jame’s lawn chair, and for far as the eye can see :D But the western half of these states are virtually uninhabited. I’d probably steer clear of Kansas, since it adjoins the now blue state of Commierado. Nebraska is one state up, and this buys you a little more distance.

    So here’s what I’d do. Buy some remote desert land. Try to go out as far as you practically can. A few hours off road via jeep, should suffice. In the mean time you can stock it via vehicle, so stock deep for when you cannot. The main requirement is that you cannot be too far from a source of water. You then set up a small village of pithouses, for your tribe/family. They must blend in with the natural surroundings. You will want to excavate down about 4’ to take advantage of the earth’s thermal properties, as you do not want to have to heat them, and give off infrared signature.

    For RVs, you’re probably better off with a trailer. I say this because with a motor coach, you have to deal with smog (which is a nightmare in Commiefornia, and if you ever wish to sell it) and working on a engine in a very confined engine bay. Also, if you don’t get one with a pop out, you will regret it.

    This is getting too big, so I’ll break it up.

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    1. I mentioned Nebraska yesterday and I seem to chase my tail: "Hmm....the Dakotas look good; how long before the next Dem Prez settles 10x more Muslims to work the Northern Strategy to counterbalance the Southern Strategy. So Jim's post today seems to confirm what I'm thinking about going rural, except that doesn't help because in Cali you still get ID'd just by buying a new gun or ammo....and thanks Jim, those 80% are an option. Too bad I don't know how to drill em and don't have the tools.

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    2. I didn't have the tools either. Part of the price of doing business. I did an article on all the different ways to do an 80, cost per unit. I think ( but don't quote me ) it is in the BBB no.16, in the Battle Rifle book. Now I realize the less talked about ability needed.

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    3. @Thomas. Something tells me that for as many bus loads of blue stater's being sent into places such as North Dakota, there would be an equal number exiting the state the following day :D It takes a special breed of person to live in such places, and that eliminates 99.999% of leftists. I don’t think that you would ever have to worry about places such as the Dakota’s becoming completely ruined. With regards to Nebraska, I wouldn't rule out the western half of the state. If you look at the map of both Kansas and Nebraska, the big cities, and as such, the most population, are all in the east. Yes, it’s flat, but it’s also vast, and practically uninhabited. Now the bad news is that you are limited in natural resources. Wood for heating is scarce, so plan on going earth sheltered right off. This also helps to keep you out of sight in an area that is largely flat and treeless.

      If you already have all your guns and ammo in place, Kalifornia actually has potential. I’ve been to places, that if you parked your car and walked off road 150’, you would probably have stepped where no man has ever stepped before. It’s a huge state, and the good news for those of us that do currently reside here, is that most of the idiots live near the coast. That said, I’ll probably leave just on principle alone. But I already own desert land in Nevada, so it makes sense for me to go there instead.

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    4. Thank you for offering your insights. Due to the fact that I am now retired, I have ONE stage left to live out life and I want to get it right. I am pretty certain I will be alone because my grown kids don't seem to want to take this as seriously as I do, so they will end up trapped behind enemy lines.

      What are your thoughts on the high country north and east of Phoenix, around Show Low. I'm never going to Phx or Tuscon. Also, in spite of the leftward shift of Nev state govt, I would lean toward a rural county with a tradition of pro 2A Sheriffs.

      I enjoy your comments but I think there are others who use your screen name.

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    5. “What are your thoughts on the high country north and east of Phoenix, around Show Low.”


      I’m personally not that familiar with this specific area Thomas. However, as luck would have it, my elderly parents looked at land in the Show Low area some years back. My understanding is that it’s largely LDS (Mormons). Now don’t get me wrong, they’re fine folks for the most part, but in hard times, I do believe that they will become quite tribal. If you are LDS, then disregard this. I hear ya on the pro 2A sheriffs, but another concern with this general location is that it’s rapidly filling up with blues, so for how much longer? That’s the sad thing about it all. Anywhere that’s halfway decent to live, is rapidly being invaded, leaving places that aren’t so great to live, as more viable alternatives. I personally can handle cold weather, but I know that it’s a deal breaker for most.

      Rawles says that border states are a bad location due to proximity to the Mexican border. Now ordinarily, I don’t put much too stock in what he says. But he does raise a good point here.

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    6. @Anonymous, few people mention Thomas Chittum, who maps out the entire country, and comes to the same conclusion about the border states. You become California once the opposition party has been rendered extinct by mass illegal immigration combined with Stupid Schools, Inc., and adults who were weaned on Howard Zinn.

      Had an interesting conversation with an attorney up in Montana a few months ago. The school kids are captives of SJW teachers who advise kids to get counseled and report on dad if he scolded you last night. Since he litigates water rights and all things connected to land use, he explained how the environmentalists think -- that nature is right and must never be interfered with -- and who are embedded in local positions where they do damage to the Land People of the state. He said, "We'll be blue too, but not quite as fast as the rest of the country." Hmmm....someone wrote here, I believe, Montana is perfect for turning into Colorado.

      We know it won't be North vs South, East vs West, etc.; it will be local vs local. Maybe I should find a good book on the Balkans wars of the 90's.

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  4. Cont. Desert living.

    Food for thought:

    “South Western Mojave Desert

    Some years ago my brother Desertphile was tracking across the Mojave Desert in the dead of night, hiking a long distance from one water hole to another, using a hand-held Global Positioning System device, topo maps, and a backpack containing mostly water and tarp equipment for emergency shade.
    While crossing the mouth of a small side canyon out in the middle of absolutely nowhere, he stumbled across squatters -- or more accurately their dogs -- living in a number of small trailors covered with camouflage netting over paint-splotched shade tarps. With no roads of any kind, the people living there had managed to some how drag small mobile trailors into the high desert and had been living there hidden from the outside world.

    Thinking about this and the people squatting there, there were some very basic things they had done:
    Shade from the sun -- A long-term squat like this took time, some money, and effort and among the first priorities would have been shade from the Sun. I would hazard a guess that the camp started with a single trailor, dropped off in a Winter month, possible during the rainy season where the area might get as much as five inches of rain for the year. As time and circumstances permitted, I'd guess that the squatters camp was built up over the years piece by piece. With desert-colored splotches of paint on tarps spread not only on the trailors but in the spaces between, a reasonable amount of shade was possible.

    Disguise from overhead -- Aircraft from area Air Force Bases all other Southern California and Western Nevada would fly over the general area, not to mention the occasional commercial aircraft, power line or natural gas company. Visibly breaking up the shade tarps would help keep aircraft from spotting the squatter's camp. Heat sources within the camp, of course, at night and possibly during the day depending on the ambient temp wouldn't be blocked from military equipment on board military aircraft.
    Reasonable access to water -- This squatters camp was about a third to a half a day's hike to the nearest water hole, and perhaps a half of a day's hike to a mud hole from which muddy water could be acquired. A wheeled travois, motorized two or three wheeled vehicle, or backpack was probably used to fetch water once a month or so, probably setting out after sunset and getting back to camp before sunrise.

    Emergency transportation -- One of the things noticed at this squatters camp was a number of beat-up four-wheeled buggies, the small kind used by kids. There was no way to know whether they were used to haul water, make trips into Las Vegas for supplies, or what not, however I'd expect that any reasonably safe effort to hide out and live in such an area would include a motorized vehicle that could be driven to a hospital in the event of a broken leg, poison, snake bite, and other emergencies.
    Minimal agriculture -- There looked to be a minimal amount of food being grown. Perhaps a wise squatter will do some basic research and see what eatable plants would survive in the area if given shade.

    Anyone contemplating setting up a camp in the Mojave Desert -- or in any of the surrounding deserts -- would obtain a topographical map, note where the indicated springs, stock ponds, and other water sources are, and then would evaluate where to locate shade for such a camp. Then the individual would investigate the water sources to verify that they're wet and drinkable all year around -- or at least during the months the individual will be surviving in the area for. “

    http://skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm

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    1. I'm jealous. Good story-thanks for it.

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    2. Wouldn't the Nazi's or Commies also be first searching those water locations for human life? I mean, Swalwell sent a message to Rawles when he said, "We have nukes" and he wouldn't hesitate to unleash chemical weapons, MOABs, Daisy Cutters, etc., in the Idaho panhandle. Why mess with infantry up there? Too many trained rednecks, but they're all in the SAME area. Stalin and Mao would do so without flinching. The modern Democrat Party is no different than those thugs, regardless of world opinion as to such an event. Just offering some thoughts here. If you go off the grid but are in geographic region, you are susceptible to Swalwell's Nukes; if you head away from population centers, then they tell themselves to think like WE do so as to find us.

      They don't want to leave us alone. Just ask Bill Ayers.

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    3. Thanks for the link, anonymous.

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    4. Agree-sorry. I didn't mean to be rude. Good enough to bookmark.

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    5. To a degree, yes, you are vulnerable at those limited water sources. Of course, so much area to cover, they usually have to be after you specifically. They are ruthless, but lazy.

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    6. Mojave Desert DANGER!
      I think it was last summer that permission was granted (maybe it was ultimately revoked?) for a private investor to pump water out of the Mojave Desert aquifer to supply LA. Environmentalists (of which I'm not one, but I agree in this case) were upset because it would dry up the last of the springs that the wildlife rely upon, basically ensuring that nothing larger than rodent-size would survive.

      A couple years ago I met a super-tough old man, 60+ years old at least. He was retired, and his favorite retirement activity was taking remote, solo hikes through the Mojave. First he would study maps for a new area, and plan a route with the least likelihood of ever seeing another person. He told me the published springs and seeps on the topographic maps are too unreliable. He always travels cross-country, never on trails. He would take a series of day trips from the closest road on his map with a large Christmas popcorn tin and bury a cache of food and water. The metal tins keep rodents from chewing through, and they aren't out there long enough to rust through. He would then calculate how long he could continue hiking on the size of the cache, and do another solo day hike from the closest road for the next cache, repeating until he can hike for one to two months without seeing anyone. He keeps trying to recruit a partner to go with him, but he can't find any volunteers. Sometimes he'll convince someone to accompany him on the caching day trip. Super tough guy, but quiet and humble.
      Peace out

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    7. I forgot to say, LA has already drained most of the Mojave Desert water supply. If you look at a good topo map, there are at least 40 drained and disappeared lake beds that LA drank. The last remaining ones are the Salton Sea (although that's the Sonoran Desert, but close enough), and a couple up by Mono Lake, which is protected by legislation to maintain a certain volume.
      Peace out

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    8. Are topo maps from a gov agency? That would explain their "accuracy". Or, tinfoil hat time, they are like the Soviets, treating maps as a military asset, and publishing false ones for the public. It could be as simple as they are too lazy to upgrade, but I like my paranoid version better.

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    9. “Are topo maps from a gov agency?”


      I’m pretty sure that all topo maps were originally produced by the USGS (United States Geological Survey) Jim. There are some private companies producing maps now, but I believe that they’re still based on the same USGS maps, and that they’ve basically “beefed them up” by adding more details, colors, making them more user friendly, etc. There’s still google earth, but that too, cannot be relied on, since the images can sometimes go some years before being updated. Probably the safest bet is to head out to the places that you’re interested in on a motor bike or a jeep, with a topo map in hand, to verify water sources first hand.

      @Peace Out. Thanks for the info. To be clear, the Mojave desert was just an example of what can be done. I own desert land already, but for those in which this is not obtainable, squatting the desert might be a viable option, just not in the Mojave desert, at least not now apparently.

      The guy in the article above mentioned that it was his brother “Desertphile” that found the squatters camp. Now that I think about it, and without researching it. I do believe that’s that crazy dude whose video I posted here a while back. The dude that went out into the Mojave desert for 18 months, and at one point, was living in that abandoned dugout. That rascal certainly had a screw or two loose :D

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    10. Thanks-you lose track of agencies, there are so many.

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  5. I know that there are often jokes made in the comments section here about “soylent green” so I thought that you might find this interesting. Yes, that’s how radical some of these climate change retards have become. No worries though. Our own version here are slightly less radical for now.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=swedish+scientist+Magnus+S%C3%B6derlund+says+we+will+be+eating+dead+people+someday&t=lm&atb=v1-1&ia=web

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    1. What the crap do they put in the water over there?

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  6. People don't seem to realize: California is HUGE. There's a reason we're the 6th economy in the world. It's too big to generalize. We have every shade of the political spectrum, from deep blue to deep red, and you can choose accordingly. Look at a map of California - it's shaped like a banana. Halfway up is the SF Bay Area where I live, and above that it's all rural. All of that. It's also rural everywhere that's not halfway down the banana and within 30 miles of the sea. There's a ton of rural or barely even inhabited land here.

    As for your "squatters", well, let's say you've got two couples, each getting the minimum of Social Security, which only take 10 years in the "square" work force to get. Let's also say they took it as early as they could, at age 62. That (to make the math simple) is $800 per person. $3200 a month with no taxes (it's not enough to tax) going into that squatter camp. That, if they're smart with their money, is enough to squat in style. Since squatters are not good with their money, it's enough to keep 'em in place indefinitely, in booze, cigs, etc., and just enough to keep their collection of derelict vehicles making runs into "town".

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    1. The size of the economy doesn't equate with area size. Since most of the population is clustered in a few areas, as you say. I'm sure I'm taking this too literally. I am guessing that since the military industry complex footprint there has shrunk, as has Hollywood ( at least in control if not in funding channeling in ), a lot of their wealth is based on welfare from the feds. Like in Florida from Social Security. The states economic size cannot be factual as it once was. Perhaps it is real estate inflation queering the numbers. Something is amiss.

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    2. James, do you remember when so cal was the production engine of the state? I'm sure that you do. Then, over time it dwindled due to Excremento policies. Political power suddenly shifted north and SF became the power base followed by big tech in Silicon Valley.

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    3. I mostly paid attention to federal/world news as a news nerd lad. Not sure why. But I mostly read on Cali economic conditions after the fact. Like later finding out why it cost so much money in 93 to get a U-Haul leaving the state. I think I mostly just followed taxes and gun laws news while I was there.

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    4. Alex, $3200 is a reasonable SS estimate for low-end earners as far as it goes, but there is also the $135/month deduction for Medicare once they are 65. Not a deal-breaking amount, but that 3200 has dropped to 2660.

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    5. And you wonder how long they will take to jack up that $135, since Medicare is broke ( SS is okay, or close enough. Medicare is ruining it for both )

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  7. Good series Lord Bison. Ive made a life time of Better Than Nothing and Making the Best of What You've Got, but never thought about it in terms of relocation...Likely cuz I've been "wanting" to get out of Cali for so long now... Excellent food for thought my friend.

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    1. We only serve bland wholesome food for thought here. Tastes like cardboard. No fatty and salty tasty treats to ruin your dinner :)

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  8. Dementia Debbie? We are truly in the presence of greatness! May your raven locks shimmer for eternity, Lord Bison.

    Your humble minion Hail Darwin

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    1. Yes, it's true, I have my moments. Then I ruin that by rubbing everyone's face in it :)

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