Monday, November 26, 2018

nomadism 1 of 2


NOMADISM
The leader in Yuppie Scum Survivalism just pointed out a YouTube series on being a RV nomad.  And of course we have discussed several books on the same, here ( if only in the comments ), such as Locusts On The Horizon and the newer one where the poor pitiful Seniors were freezing in their RV’s as they were abused and neglected by Evil Jeff at Amazon ( shut up you old humpers, and hurry up and send me my book! ).  Hell, I’d LOVE to get paid as much as they do, lazy bastards.  I’ve had worse jobs at ¾ of the pay.
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So, here you have an advocate of RV nomad living, preaching that all your ills will fall away in a sprinkling of unicorn dust.  One guy telling you it is the best way of avoiding going hungry in the economic depression, and a third wanting us to feel sorry for RV Seniors.  Okay, I’m sorry, because I know and love some seniors, but dumb ass is as dumb ass does.  If your crap ain’t wired tight after sixty years, and you screwed up your retirement, I simply cannot feel bad for you.
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Sure, crap happens.  You suddenly get sick with cancer, and the medical industry tries to cure you with sodomy.  But that just means you planned with zero redundancy, doesn’t it?  Like bad crap would never ever again happen.  Fairy tales are more realistic than that plan.  Okay, fine, houses aren’t made of candy.  But there sure are witches out there ready to eat you.  Usually the problem isn’t that you lost all your money, it is that you refused to lower your standard of living.  If your fall back plan was being an RV nomad, you didn’t learn a damn thing in all your years.
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That would be like my back-up plan for losing the house from unpaid increased property taxes, after I lost my Enron retirement, would be to rent an apartment.  What in the Holy Hell?  Stop trying to save a little, and start trying to save everything.  The plan shouldn’t be to pay less rent, it should be to pay NO rent.  This is the basic problem with being a nomad.  What was once a near zero cost alternate living arrangement was finiancialized by the rich and greedy.  This strategy has already been coopted and is no longer viable.
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After Hurricane Katrina, when FEMA bought up a butt ton of RV’s, and then after the 2008 financial meltdown when the RV industry consolidated, RV quality fell through the floor as the prices went through the roof.  I wouldn’t buy an RV made in this century, period.  You might as well burn your money as it will grant you a superior return on investment.  But then the problem becomes that you cannot rent in most RV parks as they see Seniors as having the big bucks and will only allow RV’s to be ten years old.  This keeps out poor people.
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I used to spend one quarter of my monthly take home on minimum wage on RV rent.  Now it is closer to half.  IF they will graciously allow you to park there ( here is an exception, an RV park in Arizona that is a mere $500 a year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84i1LutDAtc ).  Of course, you don’t HAVE to live in a park.  A lot of Wal-Marts still allow RV parking ( there seems to be a correlation between the Wally being in a snob hill Yuppie Scum town, and the city banning parking there ). 
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Or you can just keep moving around and stealth camp almost anywhere.  But that still presents you with the main problem with being a nomad.  Mechanical failure and monthly fixed cost.  And yes, I understand that in theory living on a junk land lot and needing a vehicle to commute in theory exposes you to a lot of the same costs.  If you didn’t plan around that car cost.  Which is what you should be doing anyway, but I shan’t yammer on about Peak Oil, the Petrodollar or Financing Failing For Fracking Fuel.  Just know that all those are valid inputs in your plans.
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But just going by a financial concern, in general it is going to be much more costly to be a nomad than a land lubber.  If your commute car breaks on your junk land, you can bike or walk, bum rides, rent a car or get a moped.  Or take some vacation time, because I KNOW for a fact you would never go without a months worth of supplies at all times to reduce the need to commute.  If your mobile home breaks down, you might be forced to hurry up and move it.
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The whole key to CHEAP nomad living is mobility.  Lose that mobility and you will endanger your wallet and even risk problems with Johnny Law.  On junk land, you just have more options that are usually cheaper.  And, as just implied, being a nomad means you cannot stockpile.  That itself endangers you.  Nomad living is NOT for preppers ( unless you really do a good job on caches, which would actually be a pretty good strategy then, bringing its own set of advantages to counter-act the disadvantages. Now that I mention it, that might make a good book ).
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What, outside your loveless marriage, is the biggest stress you have every month?  I would suggest it is the bills due at the end of the month.  Living at a fixed location brings you about 5% of that stress, if that, if you do things right.  Being mobile, you can NEVER eliminate all bills, even as a learned mechanic, and hence you will never do away with all the stress.  And while that stress MIGHT in theory be worth it as you trade peace of mind for a paycheck, in this situation you aren’t even guaranteed that.  It is hand to mouth all the time.
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Yes, you USED to be able to drop out and live in a VW van, just needing gas money and that was all.  Near free registration, no insurance required, easily maintained, quality construction and usually no police harassment ( sure, that was a variable-but it always has been such as with vagrancy laws.  The difference is that now, as LEO’s go paramilitary, encounters can be much more deadly.  Plus, prisons didn’t have HIV Injection back then ).  Now, little of that still applies.  That lifestyle is no longer liberating but enslaving.  Continued tomorrow.
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35 comments:

  1. Correct assessment again Jim. The news articles of retirees in bliss in R.V. living and near poverty retirees or refugees from one form of calamity or another living a bit more stabile is mostly debunked. Only the 9% affluent retirees that have guaranteed gubermint fat pensions can fund their little adventurous lifestyle and have reserves for unintended problems as outlined. Only it's mobility is an advantage, but, only if no breakdowns, and available fuel, and no roadblocks or road piracy, or no hostile high velocity projectiles, etc. etc. Not so rosy a picture now huh? Minions really should be grounded, have their earth under them as an incentive. Not forever fleeing like loser gypsies.

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  2. Road piracy. Damn! I could have covered that, with Mad Max high speed chases and shoot-outs. But I spaced it. Sad Trombone :(
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48

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    1. Yep, humbolt county sherriffs got pushed back by courts for confiscating money from travelers (I-80, pirates with badges) use highway dept of transportation rest stops as a refuge or way station. Safety in numbers of like kind. Unless you can pull your rig way out of way and have good stand off distance or out of the way unaccessable concealment from view location, there is threat risks. Come collapse that big r.v. or truck combo will get taken down by the wild dogs that will run loose. Funny sight when nappy headed tooth deficit scum bags are peeling their new clothes off of your now cooling carcass. On a turning spit over a fire that night is that stupid lap dog that the elderfolks could not leave at home.

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    2. They had a nice racket going in Humbolt. Must have gotten the wrong guy with connections.

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    3. Yeah like some one who is innocent, and fights back. (Unintended consequences)

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    4. I think we all WANT to be the guy in Consequences, or even C. Dallas as we've just been talking about. None of us have he balls to do much but work IN the system rather than AGAINST it.

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  3. Mr D

    Bingo ! Years back we were talking with friends, one of whom was a regional IBM manager ... smart and savvy. She pipes up and says "we have a motor home, so we'll hit the road ! " I politely ask 'waddya gonna do when that first tank of gas runs out ?' She replies "We'll use the onboard gas cans !" I politely ask 'waddya gonna do when that runs out ? and gas stations have run dry'

    Blank stare ... uhmm ... uhhhh !

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  4. Hopefully she had a moment of clarity after you opened her eyes.

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    1. No she did not....

      That lifetime pension plan in a comfy environ placated them so that a large portion of their brains decomposed from atrophy. They lost the ability to think. Easily attained money does ALL their thinking now and forever more.

      ...her moment of enlightenment will come in a flash, from a suppressor.

      My wife knows some people like that. Life 6 months in a giant motorhome in the southwest that also house 2 horses. They are everything horses and have been as long as I've known them. They have a paid for house up here and live in it in the summer then SW for the winter. Nice if you can afford it.

      He worked for Amtrack for 40 years and gets all them bennies. She mostly stayed at home and got into everyone else's business. Her daily routine now is to post as many pictures of their lovely lifestyle as possible on Fuckhead Book every dam day. I don't do FB so I never see them.

      Everything about them is pivotal on gov't and without it they will perish quick. If they are up here when the gov't money runs out I'll go over there and get them hosses. I always wanted to be a cowboy, at least, the horse part, not the pointy assed boots and hat and shit. Ridin the open range, living off the land, all that stuff. YEE HAWWWW

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    2. The pointy boots are for easier disengagement when the horse throws you, so you don't get dragged by the stirrup. Or so the legend goes.

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    3. Actually there so it's easier to get in the stirrups.

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    4. That makes sense. You don't have to fumble around or need a third hand. Never thought of it that way. Do we spend most of our "wise" years learning new stuff, or just un-learning the myths and lies?

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    5. Also easier for climbing a chainlink fence.
      I don't think my wide dawgz can deal with em.

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    6. Believe it or not, cowboy boots were the most comfortable pairs of boots I've ever owned. Better than combat, or hiking. Could just be me. Sometimes I'm an outlier.

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  5. Here in NE Texas we have a number of new RV parks. The people do not seem to change so I think these are the new cheap homes. I have no idea what the cost is to park there but the box you live in should be cheap.

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    1. Living as cheap as possible conventionally, they certainly are the way to go. Much cheaper than mobile homes-buying, maintaining or parking.

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  6. I think that one way that this idea is practical, is if you’re still working, but need to save up quick to get out of Dodge. Over at the simple rv living site, one guy took a box van and converted the rear to an apartment. Because it fit in, in any industrial area (Since it looked like the type of vehicle that delivers regularly to such areas) he would just stealth park in or near a business complex, and no one was the wiser. There’s still the maintenance on the vehicle and fuel, but it pales in comparison to an apartment rental, especially in the area where I worked.

    I had planned on something like this myself. I was going to pick up a full size passenger van. Something clean and discreet looking, that a soccer mom would drive, black out the rear windows, and park in a 24 hour business parking lot. A pick up with a camper or a camping van is a no go, because they just scream “being lived in” to the cops. Unfortunately I never saw the plan to fruition, because I was laid off from my job.

    You are right though about the Walmarts Jim. Many no longer let you park overnight anymore. Of the two near where I worked, one did let you park there. But the one the next town over had a visibly posted sign that clearly stated that you could not.

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    1. I'm really surprised more Wally's DON'T. One bad apple there being a pig can ruin it for everyone.

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    2. If you are in interstate corridors or major state routes there are truck stops(pilot flying j etc) abound. They are defacto sleep over spots and facilities available. (Showers, pooper, ration and fuel resupply, etc) travelling is part intel gathering of the routes and characteristics, amenities, resources, as well as just getting to point b. Rough draft some plans now of routes, and, your new or anticipated a.o. post bug out or nomading refugee scenario.

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    3. One time traveling the backroads I came across a tiny pull off for a state rest stop that was a 14 day limit on parking. Never checked to see if the other non-Interstate stop had this same feature, but the guy I bought the Hippie Bread Van from bought it from a guy who just traveled from one Nevada state spot to another living in the van.

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    4. I know a guy that has a nice little rig and I told him if he ever wants to sell just let me know. It's a 70's bread truck, short - maybe 16-18 foot, with the sliding doors, stand up seat, etc. He replaced the drivetrain with a v-8 gas engine, auto trans, and a 4wd rig off a 70's K5 Blazer. He put a couple windows in the back, insulated it, installed a Winnebago AC/heat, couple solar panels, finished out the inside. Very nice and he said he gets 16-18 mpg. Has 2 40 gallon gas tanks too, as well as fresh/black/gray water tanks. I told him I'd give him $10k for it and he just laughed. I'd go a little more if he got serious about it. Forgot, it has a very nice gloss camo paint scheme. I didn't ask him if it had a flir.

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    5. You don't need a FLIR, the camo job is a clock of invisability.

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  7. A sideline income stream if you have land, a lot or commercial patch of land is to rent squat space to people in rvs. If it is allowable in zoning etc. There is lots of folks working (mine workers, males with child support ball and chain, pensioners) that can be a cash under the table income stream. Option for the nomad minion is a property watchman or caretaker as well. Some states (montana, at idaho border rest stop) gave a rv guy space to stay in exchange for caretaking duties cleaning, shovel away snow, etc. Thinking out side the box is required. Civil war, and perpetual collapse may force nomad movement out of necessity and literal survival.

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    1. Sure, nomads might be a "thing", but not as we know today. Luxurious, energy intensive will turn into poverty striken gypsy types.

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    2. Grapes of wrath, only with todays course language and selfish criminal intent citizens.

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    3. Never read it. "Classic" is usually a clue not to bother, although I've been surprised a time or two.

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    4. Fonda, the elder and an actual actor, did it in a movie. Not bad for it's era or genre topic. The grandparents are dying off, fast and taking the depression earned wisdom with them. And of course 'Merica is too stupid or selfish to study and learn from history. If anything, I try to use humility and the two eyes and two ears to learn from those gained experiences. Instead of yapping the gums self glorifying like most do.

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    5. Yapping the gums AND taking selfies at the same time. The last time I got to visit my kids, both spent more time on those damn phones than just chilling with me or the grandparents. I'm used to Sloppy Seconds as a dad, but it still irked me a bit. I know, I know, I was just as self absorbed at that age.

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  8. ghostsniper wrote:

    “If they are up here when the gov't money runs out I'll go over there and get them hosses.”


    If you really want horses GS, you should start planning now on a fencing and shelter system that is indestructible. Take it from someone that knows. This will probably sound outrageous, but if it were me, I’d do a solid 8”x8”x16” cinder block wall for a fence, and make the shelter out of the same. Yes, it will be expensive, but believe me when I tell you that you will be money ahead in the long run. It doesn’t have to be huge for a few horses. My aunt has standard fencing, but she has 50 acres, so the horses have enough room to roam, and don’t bother the fence, which mostly happens when they run short on graze, and try to reach over the fence to get to the grass on the other side. But if you don’t have a lot of land for them, they will destroy an ordinary fence in no time flat. Electric fences don’t really work all that well either, as they will break it constantly, and you will be repairing it constantly.

    Horses are like giant rodents, and will destroy anything in their path. If they can chew it, bend it, or push it over, they will.

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    1. I did look into horses when we first moved here and figured it was way too expensive. Lots of people around here have em. The guy across the road has 2 but he doesn't take good care of em. My perspective may change though when gas goes over $10/gal.

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    2. 2009, outside Carson City NV, towards Fallon Naval Air Station, every swinging cheese dingus on their 2.5 acre "ranchette" who had horses couldn't afford to feed them and set them loose. They got to be a road hazard ( state road, 75 mph ). Wait until the next economic contraction-you'll be given a horse. Granted, you need to be able to feed them.

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  9. There use to be a guy on YT, I think is was Bugout trailers?

    Anyho, he was in the RV industry and stated that RV/Trailers were NEVER built for full time living and around 1995, the quality hit the bottom of the barrel.

    And get even the smallest water leak and it spreads like cancer in RV/Trailer.

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    1. The amazing thing is how well they STAY together even with all the interior rot. Just like real cancer :)

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    2. Lot's of particle board in those things.

      Get wet and they crumble, catch fire and they become torches, death traps.

      Need a big ass fire extinguisher with purple k and a whale skin on the exterior.

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    3. Mobiles are death traps as well. Might as well buy a cheap funeral pyre.

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