THE FOREVER GUN BOOK 10
WRAP THIS BITCH UP
The Forever Gun concept is
not rocket surgery. You need a modern
smokeless powder gun with oodles and gobs of ammunition to see you through the
Apocalypse and into the bright and shiny new Dark Ages. While the few remaining barbaric hordes you
run with are all switching over to crossbows and spears, tomahawks and swords
beaten from auto leaf springs, you have the tactical advantage of retaining a
real gun with its ammo ( not for you the depressing two shot 38 shown in the
movie The Road ). Because contrary to
almost every swinging cheese dingus out there writing about our impending
collapse, it isn’t at all about what kind of firearms you choose but rather,
about its ammunition supply. Just as it
isn’t as important to have a few cases of freeze dried foods as it is to have
an unfathomable amount of stored whole grains, so too the gun you choose is
almost besides the point as long as you have thousands of rounds for it (
having a lot of semi-autos, scores of mags for them, and a pallet of ammo is
NOT what I am talking about. The ammo
has to actually last you a long time.
Your lifetime. And most likely
because you will die pretty early on in the die-off, the lifetime of your
descendent ).
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The only imaginable future
for most of you involves a duplication of today’s military, only set in a
overcast bleak future where Constitutionalists battle evil black clad jack
booted Federal thugs. Never mind that
most feds are armed desk bound fat thugs only operating on fear rather than
skill. Never mind that the Constitution
was a coup by federalists overthrowing the Confederation which had strengthened
the individual States rights ( and that the second Confederation, this time a
little further South, was as centralistic and damaging to States rights as
their Yankee counterpart ), and that every misinformed patriot championing the “sacred
document” is in fact promoting the very group in power they profess to
despise.
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No, the important part you
must focus on is the stupidity of trying to duplicate today’s military. Which is a product and servant of the Nation
State and is one hundred percent reliant on the Petroleum Age it protects ( by
stealing as much of others oil as it can manage-which we have all benefited
from as mere unproductive and unskilled peasants feeding off the energy surplus
). Without oil ( but of course, far more
importantly, without surplus net energy which we have already lost despite an
all time high by volume of oil-this is an important distinction as NET energy
gain is the important part, not the amount of low energy fluids we are pumping
), today’s military is a worthless force.
Not just our tanks which get 800 feet per gallon, but the very equipment
of the infantryman. Without that extra
energy, he couldn’t even keep firing his submachinegun ( let alone get to his
assigned mountaintop in a foreign country ).
By seeking to emulate today’s infantry you are assuming a continued flow
of surplus energy.
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The future is about a
disruption of almost all energy, and to assume an actual surplus of said energy
is the height of ignorance. There won’t
be enough of a food surplus to feed a fraction of today’s population, and you
expect extra energy to continue fighting with today’s tactics? There won’t be enough surplus fat for soap,
let alone a surplus of nitrates to sacrifice fertilizer for gunpowder. Those that adapt to the coming reality prior
to its occurrence will greatly increase their odds of survival. The Oil Age is feeding over seven billion,
WITH petroleum, and a large fraction of those folks are fighting each other
WITH petroleum weapons because they are already a step ahead of you into the
future where the surplus food is an actual deficit already ( in something like
the last eight out of ten years, the global grain production was less than
consumption. If that doesn’t scare the
crap out of you, you shouldn’t pretend to be a prepper ).
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If you think that
tinkering around with impotent rimfire rounds or anemic pistol cartridges is a
waste of your time because manly men arm themselves with AR’s ( which is of
course just a souped up rimfire, but never mind that right now-the point is the
unwarranted worship of this turd of a weapon ) than you simply do NOT have the
mental ability to embrace our future.
The future will be what reality wants, not what your wishes, dreams and
desires consist of. You may want all
your petroleum luxuries to continue, but as every failed civilization in the
history of agricultural has shown, resource depletion added to overpopulation
equals the equivalent of a nuclear bomb crater where those bastards used to
reside. I didn’t just wake up one day
and decide that I wanted to share my cynicism because misery loves
company. My job is to get as many of you
as possible to increase your odds of survival in a future none wish to
acknowledge.
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If all you can do is buy
$100 worth ( at a penny a drop ) of the primer chemical they sell with that
rimfire reloader ( or, percussion cap reload ), and then pry open fired shotgun
primers, using homemade black powder and paper shotgun shells in your $100
single shot 12gauge shotgun, you could have a Forever Gun ( granted, don’t use
this unless living in suitable terrain ).
This is the kind of outside the box thinking that you need to engage in
about the future. Dreaming about saving
up for a super ninja tacti-cool AR you can use full auto against crowds of
urban ghetto poor surrounding your suburban bug-in location, that is the past,
not the future ( it far safer and smarter to avoid mobs than to battle them
). Get away from crowds, focus on calories
rather than taste, think in terms of ammo rather than guns, and concentrate on
deprivation rather than luxury.
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You can use ANY pistol
round for your Forever Gun, not just what I have focused on for illustrative
purposes. ( I hate the 9mm and prefer a
38 revolver, although I don’t like the lever action guns all that much-but that
is just personal preference )( to get the longevity of a 9mm case-the 38 case
is not as robust with thinner walls- you can stay with 357 cases. You’ll have to trim them down to fire in a
38, however. I’d advise just sticking
with 357 guns and loading lower power ).
As long as they make a gun for it you are comfortable with. Or you can go other routes. The important part is that the destination
you arrive at is a future with enough ammunition to last you a very long
time. Do NOT think like a “prepper”
stockpiling for a three week electricity disruption. Those fools get to have the cake of
semi-autos and MRE’s and eat at the petroleum forever table. Be a civilization collapsing
survivalist. Real civilization collapse
of Malthusian proportions, not the Hollywood cavalry to the rescue one.
END
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Thank You for the clear-eyed vision of this post.
ReplyDeleteIt is a refreshing breath of air.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I aim to please, and while at the urinal I always try to please aim. ( old, corny, nerdish joke. Sorry, I had a weak moment. Really, that was almost as bad as an elephant joke )
Deletethe ultimate frugal forever gun? load up on ammo and make your own guns.. like these people did.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?s=homemade
some as cheap as $5... make one every time yours breaks. if nothing else, you can use one to "acquire" one from some enemy combatant
I didn't even think to include homemade guns into the discussion. Perhaps the subject for another book? Not sure on that one, I don't want to be sued in a Paladin Press moment. Certain Northern Idaho survivalist gurus complain as in $2k for a lawyer means much to them since they can afford to hire an editor and charge ad fees for their sites, but to me it would literally wipe out all my savings.
DeleteIn Timor many of the rebels were armed with really simple match lock pistols, all they were was a pipe with one end sealed attached to a pistol grip. they were loaded with the scraped of heads of matches and a suitable sized rock or marble, the flash hole was then touched off with a lit cigarette.
DeleteAussie
Don't stop talking about guns Mr Dakin, you have been on a roll and we all like to fantasise about guns. If you truly have finished up the gun talk us dutiful readers might be placated with some articles of knives, swords, poll arms, war hammers etc.
DeleteArchery is another safe topic. For instance cross bows make a fare better ambush weapon than a bow as the shooter can fire from a prone position and no movement is required, which as any one knows, non movement is more important to concealment than camouflage. Cross bows are slow to reload though so maybe the ambushing party can let lose with a volley of cross bow bolts to take the edge of there foes fighting ability(arrows, bolts, spears etc rarely kill instantly) while the attackers up and at 'em with there war hammers.
Aboriginals perfected a way to carry there spears with there feet so as they could boldly walk up to a foe while appearing unarmed. Many a white fella met his maker due to this tactic.
Aussie
Any way of being sneaky in combat is good. A fair fight is one you might lose. After today's article, I think I might be burned out for awhile-and the only reason you got a weeks worth was that I was burned out on the last few weeks of mental conditioning. Next week is politics and spouses. I like moving around on subjects-keeps my interest up.
DeleteI've been looking at tomahawks, anybody have some good recommends?
DeleteI'm sort of liking the viking styles, long handled, wide blade with a point on the backside. However, carrying in the belt is problematic cause it beats the leg to death. There are some nasty looking short ones but then you have to get closer, and can't deliver as much power as the long handled version. Thoughts?
Yeah, simply saying "homemade guns is another cheaper but far more dangerous option - consider using only with extreme care or in dire need" would be about the extent of what I would be willing to state, not only because of lawsuits but because of the hazards to those who might be reading my words. It can be done, and if you want to be preppared for that option you have to do a LOT (like hundreds or thousands of hours worth) of research NOW - while we still have internet.
DeleteAlso, I think you could safely say that using black powder, for lower pressure, might be a reasonable precaution to use in a homemade gun.
DeleteGS-how about carry on the belt suspender of web gear?
DeleteFrom my research and understanding the dangers of home made guns blowing up is exaggerated to scare the sheeple of from messing around with such things. Lower pressure calibers and caution should be the order of the day but you will be ok just so long as you got a modicum of intelligence and arn't a total clutts.
DeleteAussie
Scaring the sheeple is good, but I think in this case it is scaring them with lawyers.
DeleteAgree with Aussie, just exercise a little common sense. The key is to stay away from the higher pressure pistol calibers. Obviously the 44 mag, .357, 454 Casull, and the like, are poor choices for the home builder. Stick with the lower pressure rounds such as the .38 special or 45 long colt, and you will be okay as long as you build a halfway decent gun.
DeleteIf you're really worried about it, you can load your shells with the even lower pressure black powder, in which case you would have to be a real klutz to build something so poorly that it would blow up. Just remember that with black powder, you cannot leave any air space in the case. If you do not wish to fill the shell full with powder, then you must fill it the rest of the way with some kind of filler, such as wadding or cornmeal.
I didn't know that about cases and black powder. Thanks.
DeleteSure thing James. Blackpowder is pretty weak, but sometimes you're using a really large case and don't want to pack it full, so you would then use the filler. But it would basically be impossible to stuff a gun cartridge so full of blackpowder that you could blow up a gun that is using modern steel, so you really can't overload a cartridge case by using blackpowder. It's only dangerous if you leave air space in the cartridge as I mentioned previously.
DeleteNow there are smokeless powders that are designed to be packed, such as the H110, but others, if you were to try filling the case, would turn the gun into a hand grenade.
Go with your primer idea, and watch this Dave Canterbury video
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F85LMFWKwTo
and you may like the idea of a single shot 12 ga even better. Or not, just putting it out there
See my reply above, the idea I got from the video. So thanks.
DeletePrimitive archery/flintlock minion here James. You knew this was coming, but once your main arsenal is already in place, also try to pick up a flintlock cheap somewhere, like at a gun show or the likes, so that your grandchildren will have something to fall back on. For 50 years after the collapse/die off, I would anticipate that modern ammo will be gone, or nearly gone. And as I'm also prone to saying, the flintlock will be the last gun to still be firing. Even if you only picked up a lock/trigger assembly from Dixie, that would be enough to get the handyman started off. Everything else can be homebuilt.
ReplyDeleteWorried about the limitations of one shot? Build a 1.5”, 2” or even 2.5” punt gun and make that one shot really count. Knowledge of nitrite/sulfur extraction/production passed down will also be in order, and will leave the grandkids with fond memories of you.
Punt gun (shotgun) video - best angle. 44 seconds James, watch it, you'll be impressed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7FeeamC4qk
The flintlock is really the only true Forever Gun. Unfortunately it is at a severe disadvantage against smokeless, so really my Forever Gun is no more than a transitional weapon. Flintlock is needed for your grandkids. Even the lock and trigger failing shouldn't be a huge issue-in a worse case, you just have a non-locking/non-trigger, holding back the cock and manually releasing to fire. Nitrogen shortages are only an issue institutionally. Individual groups can still make their own easy enough.
Delete“Flintlock is needed for your grandkids. Even the lock and trigger failing shouldn't be a huge issue-in a worse case, you just have a non-locking/non-trigger, holding back the cock and manually releasing to fire. “
DeleteTrue James, and the even more simple matchlock that Aussie mentioned above is also an option.
I'd be wary of matchlock-flints are bad enough in wet weather, but far better than matchlock.
DeleteCorrect James. The flintlock/matchlock are merely better than nothing guns for the future. Despite being a lifelong blackpowder enthusiast, I generally had little desire to own a flintlock, with its much more primitive ignition system.
DeleteBut the day will come when that is the only gun that you will still be able to fire. Surely as the day will come that you will be trading in your Toyota for a horse. Unless of course you are far more optimistic about the future than am I (I know that you personally are not, just saying in general).
The flintlock will be your son or grandsons gun.
Is the Walmart $100 Chinese 12 gauge worth buying? Or is it a piece of crap?
ReplyDeleteThis was answered previously but I'm not sure when/where. In general, you get what you pay for, and $100 ain't much anymore. Good as a liberator gun, better than nothing.
DeleteThe single shot shotgun is a fairly simple gun, and generally speaking not much can go wrong with one. Here is my experience with my 1978 Stevens model 9478 that cost $50 from Gemco (Remember them?). $50 even in 1978 dollars couldn't have been too much money, otherwise a punk ass 14 year old such as myself couldn't have afforded it.
DeleteThe trigger guard and barrel release was plastic. But it was high impact plastic and I never had a problem with it. The hammer was cast and broke on me one day. Found a new one and repaired it, and its held up ever since. The barrel seemed to pit rather easily after leaving it uncleaned one time for a short period of time, and this never happened with any of my other guns. Still, no biggie, and it's still fully functional regardless.
My personal opinion for Wade is to go for it. A $100 isn't too much of a gamble to take.
Some things to look for, but will probably cost extra. The 3.5” chamber (More versatility) a chrome lined bore (More durability and allows for steel shot) and a steel weight for recoil reduction. The Harrington and Richardson deluxe topper model 12 gauge came with most of those features, but I don't think they make it anymore. All nice things to have, but if the $100 gun doesn't have them, I wouldn't let that stop me from buying it.
Oh, and just so you know. A single shot 12ga is lightweight and brutal on the shoulder, even with a fitted recoil pad and firing upland game loads. If I had to do over, I would probably have got the 20ga.
I didn't buy it A good h&r used was the same price.
DeleteThe English gun makers of old had a formula for shotgun weights to tame recoil that said the gun should weigh 96 times the weight of the charge to be shot out of said gun. That's from memory so don't quote me but should be easy enough to look up. Most single shot shotguns are just to light. 20ga shotguns are even lighter, so a one ounce 20ga load will have more felt recoil than a one ounce 12ga load if the 12ga gun is heavyer.
ReplyDeleteSingle shot shotguns have a lot going for them as a survivalist weapon. Single shot shotguns would be the only gun I would consider loaning out to a non shooting sheeple.
Aussie
I advocate revolvers and single shots to newbies.
DeleteI'm sure a 20ga 3” magnum is going to produce more felt recoil than a standard 12ga load, but for the sake of argument, we'll compare apples to apples. The standard 20ga load is 5/8 to 7/8oz, while the 12ga is 1 1/8oz. What Aussie is saying actually sounds logical, but everything that I have read on the subject indicates that a comparable 20ga will always produce less recoil. But let's see what an actual firearms expert has to say:
Delete“The 20-gauge will always “kick” less than the 12, and it will handle better and faster on quick-moving upland birds.”
http://www.backwoodshome.com/consider-the-20-gauge-shotgun/
Now I'm not sure how much stock an infidel like myself wishes to put into the words of a guy named “Massad”. But then again, perhaps that's why I should be taking him seriously :D
Keyword search: 20ga single shot kick less than a 12ga?
Most of the 20ga loads I have ever bought were one ounce, some lighter ones and there were some heavier ones but 7/8ths to one once seem like the norm. Most 12ga loads are 1 to 1 1/4 ounce. So a one ounce 12ga load and a one ounce 20ga load, all other things being equal will kick the same, is pure physics. But everything isn't equal, 20ga guns are usually lighter for obvious reasons. So in the real world a standard 12ga single shot fireing a 1 ounce load will tend to have less felt recoil than a single shot 20ga as the single 12 will tend to be heavier.
ReplyDelete12ga gives more options than a 20ga, better range of ammo and ammo more common and over here at least 12ga ammo is cheaper. Nothing wrong with 20ga, but 12ga is just better.
Aussie
!2g is better because of popularity. 20g is good for a pipe gun, or a 45/20g revolver. But not for a daily shotgun.
DeleteSmaller ga shotguns tend to run at slightly higher pressures, ie it will take more powder to launch 1oz of shot out of A 12ga than 1oz out of a 20ga. So smaller gauges may be more efficient use of powder if your reloading, but a home made smaller gauge gun may be a little more likely to explode. Just something else to ponder and another excuss for me to crap on a bit more.
ReplyDeleteAussie