THE FOREVER GUN BOOK 3
*note: if you have KU, check out "Locker Nine" by Franklin Horton. It has its problems, but a notch above regular apocalypse porn. Far, far, better is "Long Haul Home Collection" by Dana Fraser, but beware an ending that suddenly inexplicably veers off into soft porn.
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ONE GUN ARSENAL
Before we go further into
an additional arsenal which is borderline unnecessary, or at least extravagant
for the outrageously poor, I’d like to cover extending the Arsenal Of One you
already have to come close to the Forever Arsenal. Some survivalists take great pride in their
pallets or at least multiple ammo cans worth of ammunition. Most likely these fools are Yuppie Scum
Survivalists who think semi-auto’s are the only things saving them after the
collapse. As proof they will point to
the Garand winning WWII for America. A
bit of hyperbole of course, as petroleum and factories beyond bombing range won
that conflict for us, and somehow we forget the Soviets won the conflict with
the crappy bolt action Mosin-Nagant’s, but they desperately need to believe
they are indestructible with their talisman disguised as a plastic poodle
shooter disguised as a real battle rifle.
The point is, they will be so busy spraying lead anytime some fool yells
for cover or they hear a noise or someone somewhere in the immediate vicinity
measured in map grid lengths opens fire on someone, their once quite impressive
stockpile of ammunition will be depleted very, very quickly.
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I’m sorry to urinate on
your leg, but semi’s are an Oil Age weapon fed by unlimited energy and we are
entering into a POST Oil Age with zero energy available to you and There…Will…Be…NO…Ammo. Ever.
Again. Perhaps, against all odds,
there might arise a cottage industry able to harness an extra amount of
nitrates ( if THAT even happens ) and manage to not blow themselves up and
somehow manufacture a small amount of smokeless powder again. If so, it will never be enough to continue
semi-automatic fire. Both because there
will not be enough, and because it will be such poor quality you daren’t use it
in a repeater anyway. For the collapse
of civilization, semi automatic weapons are flipping retarded. Everyone thinks they can impose fire
discipline on themselves once they enter combat but it simply doesn’t work that
way. Unless you are trained, which is
expensive in itself, you will be unable to counter panic and stress. It is brain chemistry, not willpower. Just as a teenage boy cannot think past a
near constant erection, an inexperienced shooter in combat will be unable to
manage his natural responses.
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If you are in the
majority, you must tamper your natural reactions with the proper tool. In this case, a bolt action rifle. And if you have such a rifle, by trying to
stockpile the same amount of ammunition as the Yuppie Scum Semi Survivalist,
you begin to approach a Forever Gun level of preparedness. Of course, rifle ammunition and pistol ammo
are completely different animals. I
doubt you could afford ten thousand rounds worth of reloading supplies. Even assuming ten rounds use per case, using
the Lee Loader so as to only neck size ( hence prolonging the case life ), you
are still talking a lot of money. A
thousand cases, forty-fifty pounds of powder and ten thousand primers ( I’ll
even assume a cheap lead source for pouring your own ) are, respectively, $500,
$1,000 and $300. You probably already
own a nice amount of ammo, plus you might not believe you will ever come close
to needing ten thousand rounds ( I have the factory rounds and reloading
components totaling five thousand rounds for my battle rifle, but then, I also
have the rimfire to back that up-and, granted, I’m probably far more paranoid
than you ). Obviously, you can only do
as finances permit. Here, my point is
merely that for an estimated additional $500-$800 most folks already owning a
rifle can come close to getting enough ammo to come close to a Forever Gun.
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The Forever Gun Arsenal is
a mere concept, not a single one size fits all tool. Almost like the scout rifle concept from
Cooper. I’m merely covering all
aspects. You don’t absolutely need a
full size rifle round, either. If you
already own a 223, obviously the reloading expenses are far less. I hope that you are using a suitable gun for
your terrain, and that if you do happen to own an AR it has a heavy and long
barrel and you will only be using it as a mid range sniper rifle, and if so for
very little additional money you can seriously increase your round stockpile
and come close to the Forever Gun. I don’t
necessarily advocate this route, of course.
Regardless of your style of rifle.
It is merely an option that might work better for you depending on your
circumstances. The whole concept must be
frugal and by necessity that more often than not means a low power round such
as rimfire or pistol ammo. Just because
of the cost factor. Remember, this is
FRUGAL survivalism. NOT expensive Best
Of Everything survivalism. When you are
unable to throw money at a problem, you end up making compromises.
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I’ve had readers suggest a
hundred thousand rounds of ammunition.
Of course, taking in the correct context this isn’t insane. We were talking of stockpiling for a lifetime
( literally ) supply of everything. And
taking decades to do it. If you are
disciplined and dedicated, even on very low wages this is more than feasible. But I’m convinced that we have mere years
rather than decades, and hence the IDEAL becomes far less feasible. Ten thousand rounds, even in reloads, of best
firearm ammunition, is most likely far from realistic. Because not only are we fighting time to
escape the ravages of civilization collapsing, we must also at the same time
prepare to survive the collapse of our central bank controlled economy. You don’t have enough time or money to do
things the ideal way. More often than
not, you’ll need to accept Better Than Nothing.
While a 9mm round pretty much blows monkey balls, it will kick ass
compared to NO modern firearm using smokeless powder. While wheat kernels don’t compare well to
freeze dried meals, the price is 1 to 20.
It is the choice between eating one great meal every three weeks or a
mediocre meal every day. Better Than
Nothing is a vastly underrated concept for prepping. Including everyone’s pet project, firearms.
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Good, as always.
ReplyDeleteRather than buy more ammo this time around I bought some freeze dried food. Now hear me out. I'm already doing pretty well in the grains and beans department. This is bug out food where low weight and quick prepare times are more important than cost.
I'm going on extended hunting trips next month to test guns, travel food and other gear. Nothing like the occasional real world test.
I don't completely hate freeze dried. If I was going on a regular camping trip I can't see NOT bringing it ( especially as I know what carting extra weight feels like ). And for bugging out, yes. Just as I see some limited uses for an AR, so too with freeze dried. I don't think I ever want to eat another MRE, though. :)
DeleteNo one is more paranoid than you ? Hah, I give you exhibit A, as in myself lol. I've been paranoid since serving in the same outfit as Rawles....at least though, I went from the rangers to ASA. Unlike Rawles who was nothing more than a keyboard warrior lol.
ReplyDeleteYes , one day I'll regret feeding my wheat that got buggy to my chickens. Wishing that I'd kept it for myself eh ?
One very important thing to remember, is to seal whatever ammo and powder etc. Which you have inside sealed containers with desiccant. It would be a shame to hoard all that stuff, only to find years down the road, it had went bad from moisture.
I shall endeavor to increase my paranoia, thank you very much :)
DeleteOh, actually you're likely more paranoid than I. After all , I have like ten years or so on you in age. So perhaps I may be a little more complacent, knowing that I've not many more years left....?
DeleteSides, I call it prudence, not so much as paranoia.
Of course it is prudent to be paranoid.
DeleteYou need to think more in terms of EROI in relation to population.
ReplyDeleteThe government is aware of what is happening with energy. Their plan is to "manage" population. Consider the demographics that are productive and necessary to continue society and it's clear you need young, strong, and fertile people. The older people (say 50 and over) are not necessary to society. They use resources (healthcare, food, energy) and provide a diminishing return on investment.
The solution the government will follow is population management. They're already doing it with Obamacare. If you are elderly and need surgery, too bad. If you are 70 and have cancer, no treatment. Obamacare shows the government is aware and taking steps to deal with what they consider excessive population.
So what will they do? Add additional methods to reduce population of those who are 50+.
You might be right, but possibly you are over thinking this. It is all about the money, and that is getting scarce. So cut back everywhere.
DeleteJames,
ReplyDeleteA bit off subject maybe, but I think you might well enjoy this:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/i-used-to-write-apocalypse-survival-guides
I did read that article earlier. Very good, if only to confirm my dark suspicions on the crap they churn out in e-books.
DeleteMinion that's always spouting off about the Lee Loader here James. One option might be to pick up a pistol round that's chambered for a rifle as well. The .44 magnum/Special, .357 magnum/.38 special, and .45 long colt are all chambered in rifles now, though usually in lever actions. These rounds will work fine if you do not need to shoot beyond a few hundred yards. In my opinion, the .44 magnum/Special is the most versatile of the lot.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding on the neck size only of the Lee Loader, is that with the neck size, you can only reuse the shell in the gun that it was fired in. This reduces the versatility slightly in going with the one caliber option for both pistol and rifle, but you can always upgrade to a cheap Lee press with full size die options if you wanted to.
With regards to the amount of ammunition needed, I think it's sort of a catch-22. If you need 10k rounds of ammo to survive, you are probably getting into enough gunfights that survival beyond the short term isn't likely. Unless of course you are the real life equivalent of television Matt Dillon, whom for 20 years, squared off against all manners of bad men and never lost. But I don't recommend that you try this at home kids. The only realistic solution is to hide way out in the middle of no where. Still; better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it, to repeat the tired old saw for the umpteenth time.
I always say I'll die quickly, but I wouldn't if I didn't stockpile so much-then the fates would punish me with living.
Deletereloads will last a long time. I have some .38 specials I reloaded in the mid 70's. they shoot just fine. They were stored in ammo cans but I did not use anything to seal the primer or bullet to the case.
ReplyDeleteTo not be a collector I have a dozen or so different firearms. Thinking on a forever gun I am now wanting a 12 ga. single shot and an assortment of short lane adaptors. I have 7 different caliber's on hand now. The adaptors will mean I could use any through 1 gun or the ones I presently have. For 3 to 350 for gun and adaptors I exceed 10,000 rounds between the 7 calibers already on hand.
ReplyDelete"Forever gun" means not a quantity of one gun but narrowing down to one precise type of firearms, so to be able to cannibalize parts.
ReplyDeleteRegarding realoading ammo : complete ammunition stores energy AND time. You can have only a fraction of your stockpile in complete ammunition and the rest in components, to be assembled when you have time.
If you stockpile 10,000 cartridges then you will eventually be left with 10,000 cases, whereas if you reuse the brass of the initial stash of, say, 2500 cartridges you save on purchasing the value associated to 7500 new brass cases.
@Gary in Bama : adaptators are short-range only, you can't aim with them beyond pistol-shooting distances. Adaptators area logistical feature, allowing you to use captured brass or otherwise aquired (sales etc.) rather than letting it sit there unused.
But you need to have a weapon precise enough as a main weapon, also because precision saves ammunition.
A precise type of firearms ( so as to cannibalize parts ) is for your MAIN gun ( two is one, one is none ). A forever gun is supposed to be cheap insurance, done as inexpensively as possible. So, singular unless you can afford more.
DeleteI have a precision rifle. The adaptor platform will allow me to consume my varied calibers and use scavenged or trade ammo later. If I go deer hunting with a 12 ga. fine but if all I can find is squirrel's I swap to 410 .
DeleteBullet cases, powder, primers and BULLETS. Need those thingies too !
ReplyDelete