Wednesday, September 30, 2015

deflating expectations 2


DEFLATING EXPECTATIONS 2

After some time of decreased costs which was probably a surprise to most experts, especially after gold went from $1900 to $1,000 so quickly ( which should have proved to everyone that the big bank players controlled the entire Western civilization [ the Russians for now aligning with the Eastern bloc ] economy and manipulated it electronically, because the demand for gold was going up as supply fell ), a few folks begrudgingly admitted that inflation was not our only future.  Henceforth and forever more, they proudly triumphed with the same fervor once reserved for warnings of hyperinflation, basic needs would see inflation and luxuries would see deflation.  There!  Problem solved with those pesky crashing prices questions.  Now, I’ll be the first to admit that I was firmly in the hyperinflation camp.  Just as I was in the Immediate Crash With Peak Oil Camp.  And I had no problem with the Insane Food Inflation idea.  I’ll readily admit it.  But I think I have a good excuse.  I tend to over-panic.  I’m a bit of a Cassandra.  I think assuming the worse is a prudent sound strategy ( since Timing The Collapse is a fools game, I preach the Prep Yesterday In Case The Crash Is Tomorrow point of view ).  But I have to say now, just because I absolutely loath the idea of running with the pack, any pack, damn herbivore sum-bitches, just to be different and play the Devil’s Advocate, I’m kind of liking the new idea of Rollercoaster Prices For Everything.

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Remember how the Doomer Peak Oilers, myself included, assumed that scarcity would bring high prices?  Yet instead what happened was that as one price hike decimated demand and industry participants, the price crashed down.  Then repeated.  Despite less oil ( total BTU‘s delivered, not total barrel count ), being available, scarcity did not always get higher and higher prices.  After oil went over X amount, companies went bankrupt, driving down demand, workarounds were found at the surviving companies to decrease demand, consumers finding they lost half their household income cut back, etc., and that demand never reappeared when prices went back down due to demand destruction.  When a company is wiped out or a consumer loses employment, even if the oil price falls in half or to a third, there is one less customer with ANY money to buy at the cheaper price.  And I submit to you, my loyal minions, that the exact same thing is going to happen to essentials such as food.  There is SOOOO much Value Added price elasticity to food that consumers can keep downgrading and bankrupt food supply companies, causing the remainder to drop prices in a panic as they are one loan payment away from insolvency.  People don’t just buy wheat and potatoes and raw meat, but pizza and specialty loaves of bread and French fries and pre-cooked deli items and eat out meals.  Consumers can keep downgrading price-wise as they back away from luxury foods.  And each food company panic to profit will cause a drop in prices prior to the next surge as the next wave of shortages hit ( caused by the next drought, the next animal disease, etc. ).  Next article, I’ll cover other Inflation Forever items such as rent and college and cars.

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15 comments:

  1. Yes, here in the USA and most first world nations too I believe, there is plenty of room for demand destruction in food as you describe. However in 'developing' nations and ones with little to no version of welfare the food market is already mostly gruel of one sort or another for the poor- they have little to no room for demand destruction. The first round of basic food price hikes caused the 'Arab Spring' revolutions and started ISIS to take over for the Taliban and spread still further. The next round could hit still closer to home- during the Arab Spring there was severe grumbling in Mexico's poor sector - perhaps another round will cause actual breakdown or revolution in that nearly failed state- or massive exodus to the north to take our welfare... Which means our welfare will have to go through a double down round of demand destruction.
    How do you think the food bank recipients will like to deal with that James? Will the grumbling be enough to turn into action protests or riots?
    Personally I doubt it for the next phase. The one after it though? by then the US's poorest will be having what ever the affordable 'gruel' of the day is much of the time, and they will be very cranky about it- then if they aren't able to get any better foods or enough of the gruel riots will begin to step up.

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    1. I believe Mexico's Tortilla Crisis predated the Arab Spring by several years. Right as we were starting the ethanol program. Obviously they have found some solution, if only a more stable narco-state if nothing else.

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    2. Actually I am talking about the grumbling that went on after the Tortilla crisis- it was less acute but was happening as Arab Spring went on.
      Maybe the complaints I heard about were over inflated.

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  2. I mentioned this concept to you years ago, Your High Hairedness. The cure for high prices is high prices. I'm glad to see you're finally on board. Now the question becomes, how does this impact the collapse? It seems to me that it would lend more towards a stair step decline.

    -Novice

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    1. Sometimes it takes a long time of subconscious perculation for an idea to spring forth with my particular shine on it :) Stairstep assumes things don't get out of control. Wanna bet on that?

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    2. Stair step rapids can lead to smoother waters - or, especially if they seem to be accelerating - to a plummet down a waterfall either 5 feet or as much as 500.... We have no idea how many rapids could lay between the ends of the rapids or how tall the waterfall that could be at the end. But the rapids of our economic decline do seem to be accelerating - and prepping makes sense since we could personally be struck by an economic rock at any time, either at the end of the waterfall, or at anytime before.,.

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    3. It's not the drop that kills you but the stop? :)

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    4. Depends on how well your heart handles the fear.

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    5. So, if you are lucky, it doesn't

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  3. whew!!! something to look forward to.
    but forewarned is forearmed.
    thanks.

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  4. As much as it pains me Kunstler's Long Emergency has been the most accurate on the last 12 years. It may be time to re read that Yankee pot smoking southern haters book.

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    1. Too Much Magic is a good update, but his Long Emergency is good for several re-reads. Hate him all you want for his intellectual blind spots, you are correct. His head is further out of his ass than all others. Probably including me.

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    2. But your hair is much nicer.

      Idaho Homesteader

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    3. Now that the AC light is better than the DC I was using down in the B-POD, I can groom my hair to an even higher standard. I daresay the local population is in an even bigger fit of jealousy. Of course, the ladies are swooning.

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