note: for all my professional reloaders. If I wanted to, would it be an issue to take the components of a 7.62x39 and use them in a Lee-Enfield? I know the bullets are the same diameter. And using the same amount of powder for the carbine bullet, I should avoid high velocity shots in the Enfield damaging the barrel, right? I'm effectively turning the Enfield into a carbine. Not trying to use a 303 bullet or powder charge, but just bypassing the chamber insert and firing a low powered 303 round. Does this avoid the issues of a low powered pistol round sticking in the barrel, no chamber inserts available for the 7.62x39, using the wrong bullet weight in a full powered round, or other considerations? It would be nice to have the option of using an intermediate round in a heavy rifle to dampen recoil, buy the rounds at twenty cents each ( cheaper than buying bullets and powder separately ), or using found/bartered rounds post-apoc. Anyone? Appreciate the help.
note: I'm taking a break on the book until I figure out what I'm doing, so there is no long posts on the other blog for now. But I'll still post interesting links, so watch for those if interested. I just posted another free for today book.
After quite some time I finally finished watching the first season of “Survivors ( 1975-77 )”. I’ve been treating myself to each episode rather than binge watching. Despite a low budget, the stories were told well and they have been a pleasure to view. I read that seasons two and three were independent of the shows creator Terry Nation, as there was a parting over creative differences ( the novel you might have read was written the same year as the first season-it has little resemblance to the complete show. I read it some years ago but if I recall correctly it is more the mothers search for her missing son, and encounters with undesirables ).
Green Mountain Dude has mentioned that the show gets better after the beginning. I have no idea, yet, but I did find that the first show of season two actually found me taking notes for an article idea. After the main male character’s band mostly perishes, he must travel to a nearby settlement and trade labor for food and lodging. He speaks to the groups leader that they will be moving on in spring. Each is the independent type and wants to be in charge, not the one dictated to. Which got me thinking that you should always have your eye on the long term, if you find yourself thinking about joining a group.
No matter how good the situation looks right now, you need to beware changing group dynamics. When you refuse to sign up as one of the help, you are refusing to surrender independence. Not to say being the leader is a good idea. You are the target in war or revolution. But if you are not the leader, you are the follower. Which could be just fine, or it could blow rabid monkey chunks. You could very well end up killed if you are a danger to the leader, even a perceived threat. You could become cannon fodder if the leader changes tactics. You could become a serf. If independence from these threats is at all possible, who wouldn’t choose that?
Again, this falls under the category “why tribes suck”. We spend years focusing on their good qualities, so now we beat the dead horse of their dangers. No matter how hunky dorey a group sounds right now, a band of brothers and everyone equal, things usually don’t work out they way in the end. Because human nature being what it is, greed and laziness show back up. Favoritism and forced sacrifice, Realpolitics and backstabbers. Let’s take the instance of the TV show. The visiting man is an engineer. Since this is the 70’s, one assumes he is competent and doesn’t design pedestrian bridges without math.
The village leader has been trying to recruit the guy for some time, just for his skills. So far, it is all goodwill and cooperation. But what happens when that turns into more of a degree of force. Say, the guy wants to leave but his wife is on limited medication. Leave, and we won’t allow your wife to return and be treated by our herbalist ( or something similar-not an overt threat, but an understood one, no matter how friendly ). I’m not assuming a coveted tradesman is cast in chains, merely that people being people, someone will find a way to screw you if it is in their power.
Don’t believe me? Do you need to be threatened by your boss or wife to get you to act against your own best interests? Of course not. There is an implied ( and implicit ) threat. All human dynamics are dictated by force. Why do you think so much of our programming is devoted to perceiving and dealing with threats from each other? Being your own boss has its own set of problems, but at least you can be the screw-er rather than the screw-ee. Remember, when you are getting screwed, it hurts, and there is no guarantee that you’ll get a bonus Reach-Around.
One of the reasons I’m enjoying the “Survivors” show is because despite any imperfections, it did showcase common sense and its implications if absent ( it also allowed you to root for the demise of simply irritating and stupid people rather than the anti-White Male racist/sexist bench markers we are supposed to use today ). There was no need for the main character to over analyze the situation. He just knew that throwing in with another lot and giving up independence was a bad idea. What do you hear today? All about how good tribe is and how they will act morally because you all believe in the same deity.
So, what? All those religious wars throughout history were because why? Why didn’t those on the same side of not worshiping a false idol stop fighting one another? Right. You get to define the faith however it benefits you. Tribe is a two edge sword, not the solution to all your ills. And don’t think it is only about picking the right group. Perhaps with any group you will be giving up more than you gain. I mean, sure, nobody wants to go join Jim Jones in the jungles of South America, but even the benign PTA is full of politics and danger.
Once you introduce famine and combat casualties, crap just got more real, yo! You can expect a fairly regular amount of benevolence from a father leading his family, but once you have a non-biological relation in a position of power over you, there is no way you can guarantee your best interests will be represented. No matter how well you get along, eventually their attitude will change to reflect changing circumstances. For instance, right now the Cat Ladies, and the Blacks and the Muzzies all pretend there are in it together against us Honkies. How much would you care to wager that one of those groups is used by another for their own selfish ends?
If Blacks end up getting too much pushback from their violent behavior, you can bet they would stage a false flag attack using the Muzzies as the patsy. Take the heat off themselves, and wear down their enemy at the hands of another. Now, why can’t that kind of selfishness and greed and lack of loyalty be seen on a smaller scale, such as a village of former strangers? I am NOT claiming there is any substitute for tribe, in the long run. You put up with asswhores to protect yourself from much bigger and more dangerous ones. But while you have the choice…
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Jim, research the actual/true diameter of combloc 7.62 bullets. I can't recall without researching it out but they may be .309 or .310 diameter and not a true .308 if the 303 is so as well. Also steel jacketed bullets with copper wash or copper gilding may not compress/seal/squib if oversized. Also powders have varying burn rates for the size of its case, weight of projectile, etc. The burn rates/powder types have effects on chamber pressures and velocities. A different powder and a tad more quantity is used in 357 magnum to amp up the power of the same caliber and bullet. Stock up on proper ammo. Set aside other calibers for trade/found guns, avoid dangerous hazards and save spending precious time tinkering with stuff instead of on important tasks.ReplyDelete
I did read up on the ComBlock differing bullet diameters. The Enfield should take all of them, in theory. The 303 is a .311 and should be good to .313. This is not a serious project, just a Off Scenario, a Curiousity Killed The Cat. If I knew why the chamber insert guy discontinued for the 303 I'd have better info.Delete
I think I'm going for tribe shaman. Got the beard and everything. You are outside of the chain of command but have a different kind of power. The boss man better get along with the shaman, but he shaman knows to avoid overt political power.ReplyDelete
And the Shaman can sell his brand of BS easier than the chief :)Delete
I've got a good feeling that most anyone could get along with you Sixbears. If they can't, then likely they don't get along with anybody !Delete
Be careful with sub loads if you are working with jacketed bullets (vs. lead cast). Low velocity bullets may shed the jacket inside the bore if velocity is not high enough. Not an expert here so if someone else doesn't chime in, look that up.ReplyDelete
Personally, I don't see a problem with low velocity .303. Many used to load low velocity bullets in 'Ye Olden Times', when one rifle had to do it all and handloading in the field was commonly done. You may want to check out the forum CastBoolits / Gunload forums for more information - good luck !
Thanks. I think the velocity will be okay, the both rounds used jacketed.Delete
>> note: for all my professional reloaders. If I wanted to, would it be an issue to take the components of a 7.62x39 and use them in a Lee-Enfield?ReplyDelete
From what I have read (never experienced it myself), there is a problem when you have too little powder in a large cartridge : the primer gases make that powder fly inside and causes incomplete combustion. Your cartridge will hence be very inconsistent.
Some shooters with reduced loads will use filler material (like the synthetic fiber that one finds in pillows, Dacron) on top of the powder. I don't know what becomes of the Dacron filler, and I didn't want to find out because I don't want to have a molten speck of nylon in my barrel.
Maybe you can play around with different types of powder to fill it more, but this is outside my area of expertise.
One problem I see is that powders for large cartridges are burning slowly, and powders for interemdiate cartridges are burning faster. Since pressure increases exponentially, you can have catastrophic damage when filling a .303 cases with 7,62x39 powder.
The only way to work with the setup is to cannibalize the bullet and the primer from the 7,62x39 round and set the powder aside, in a well-closed glass jar, and use slow powder on this light bullet on .303 specifications.
Okay, the "not filling the case with powder" sounds vaguely familiar. I would think something like just tissue/toilet paper to pack it down, perhaps? Newspaper-whatever is handy. Good to know for improvised loads, but it also tells me not to buy the steel case rounds to cannibalize.Delete
The problem with loose filler material is that the powder will get in the material (or its folds) in ever different quantities from one cartridge to the other. You shots will then be very inconsistent.Delete
“Some shooters with reduced loads will use filler material (like the synthetic fiber that one finds in pillows, Dacron) on top of the powder.”Delete
I’ve heard of this as well. However I’ve never heard of anyone doing this with smokeless loads; only blackpowder, and even then, using straight, not necked cases. They used fiber wads or corn meal to take up the extra space. The fiber wads wouldn’t work for a necked cartridge, but the corn meal might. Again, you’d have to verify this procedure for smokeless loads.
I would think that a bullet mould, and being able to salvage any lead bullet that you may come across (or any lead that you come across period) would be a more versatile strategy, but what do I know? If I were a true survivalist I’d be living in Idaho near the great one :D
This is why I get the minions opinions ( hey, I'm I friggin poet ). When the devil is in the details you can pretty much count on an unholy visit.Delete
Bullet molds is also my preferred solution, for a number of reasons :Delete
- you have basically a new bullet with nominal specifications
- it is the bullet you know, and have prepared for (the right kind of powder, maybe gas checks, known ballistics)
- ideally your type of weapon and the rifling of its barrel has been chosing with cast bullets in mind (and maybe improvised powder as well), like .38 Special or .30-30 for instance.
If one of your post-apocalyptic occupations is "weaponry" (repairing, reloading, making components etc.) then you might be interest in bullet swaging, i.e. creating jackets for the bullets. The problem here is to get the right kind of metal for this.
In my book, bullet swaging is only interesting for fast bullets and their twist rates, like .223 for instance. You can swage .223 bullets using .22LR cases.
Lewiston ID is the center of the Western US ammunition universe. Expect post-collapse Fed's (or whatever centralized power structure) to occupy a useful place like this at whatever cost (to the local residents).Delete
Is that manufacturing, or stockpiling? It would make a difference.Delete
Great haired one, I Haven't tried what you speak of but I do reload. I have been making .308 and 7.62x54r using a small amount of pistol powder for light and quiet loads. Key word is "Gallery" loads. I tried trailboss powder but found red dot or bullseye to do the same for least $. Tip the muzzle up before you shoot so the powder gets closer to the primer and use magnum primers. Very quiet subsonic loads without recoil and hitting tennis balls at 50 yards. My best to you, Lake Erie PirateReplyDelete
Seems to me that you're be better off just buyng bulk powder and primers. Then getting a mold for .303 bullets. Always gonna be lead laying around.Delete
I have the components/mold for the 303-but it wouldn't hurt to lay in more, cheaper.Delete
Free books for the next two daysReplyDelete
Hey, much thanks. Those two should hurt my brain for awhile.Delete
What is the purpose of the reduced .303 load? Small game, or something quiet or very low recoil? I've used the .32 ACP chamber adapter for the .303 and liked it. Most .32 ACP is pretty weak. I recommend Sellier & Bellot 73 grain FMJ. It's strong for .32 ACP, and it tumbles upon impact, which creates a relatively effective wounding profile. It shouldn't get stuck in your barrel. Here's some stats for .32 ACP in an 18" barrel, not sure how long yours is.ReplyDelete
I was a bit scared away with the prices on the 32 ammo. And then the barrel obstruction. I could switch all over with bullet molds and brass and reloader, but really I feel a carbine round should be the minimum for the rifle. I was trying to reduce resources, but wishing to go battle rifle to carbine, not down to pistol.Delete
Instead of trying to assemble 303 rounds with components from disassembled 7.62x39 rounds, consider contacting these folks for an adapter that might allow you to shoot the 7.62x39 rounds in your Enfield: http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm. Other folks in the forums have mentioned using one of their adapters for this purpose.ReplyDelete
That's the guy I tried years ago.Delete
Yep, spud is the mostest correct minion here. Just stick with a mold and stock powder/primer/cases etc. Lord Bison your time is waaayy tooo valuable to be dinkin with that jerry rigging to make a gun go bang. You have hair care duties and magnus opus manifestos to publish, stay on course!ReplyDelete
See, now that you put it that way, it makes perfect sense. My wisdom of the ages has been neglected, and I had a couple of hairs out of place. Why don't more minions understand my trials and tribulations?Delete