PLAN B MOVING
Things are getting
rather exciting lately what with energy infrastructure attacks (
refineries and grid hacking ) and all the economic excitement and one
naturally has to ask, hey, Captain Obvious, is this the real deal
2008 Redux, finally, after I bought balcony seats and an extra large
tub of popcorn? Now, I never discount False Flags. Don't
misunderstand me. I'm not calling the event more than wondering how
much of a miracle we would need for it NOT to be it. I just
understand that we get about 1% factual information and with that it
is a little hard to prognosticate.
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We should at least try,
though, even knowing we'll make fools of ourselves. I might have
called Peak, Peak Oil about seventy three times already, but at least
I'm not waving a fracking flag vigorously and denying energy has been
in decline for decades and sixty year old technology isn't going to
reverse that. I don't call Peak at 2030 like some fools, when it
occurred fifteen years ago ( called by geologists in the petroleum
field who just might know better than keyboard commandos listening to
paid off shills ). At least I know enough to be very afraid instead
of Ostrich Optimistic.
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But before all these
events from September, most of us were actually quite aware that
Something Evil economically was upon us. This isn't just a Fear Porn
boner moment. These recent events were just the frosting and cherry
atop the crap cake that is being served up for the Deplorables
birthday. So, of course, it is time for contingency planning. Not
grand sounding plans that just rattle around in your pea brain, but
taking actual steps as if, yes, indeedily doodily we won't finish out
the year without watching Goldman Saks strong arming the feds for
extra trillions.
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Yes, yes, I KNOW the
federal reserve bank has a gabazillion dollars ready to lend. I also
think that the banks panicking during a liquidity crisis might mean
that the derivatives market is witnessing a possible inability to
cover bets gone wrong, an event that will be well out of the control
of the central bank. Did you know that Freddie Mac and Fannie May
are looking at 1 to 1,000 assets to debts? Far above the pitiful 1
to 100 or even 200 most banks pretend their exposure is. The banks
learned exactly ONE thing from 2008 and that was how to use more
derivatives for more profit.
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I'm not doing a thing
differently. I'd like more food but the darn feed store simply
refuses to carry more than two to three bags of soy meal a week. All
their inventory cost is in fancy cowgirl clothes and city slicker
cowboy boots, not to mention the food freeze dryer sitting there, so
they don't want to overexpose themselves on edible inventory. It
makes me wonder how old the first two bags I picked up were. Anyway,
that is for post-apocalypse rather than economic collapse use. I
just worry about prices spiking.
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What about you? Do you
NEED to do anything last minute? This might well be your last
chance. Normally I would tell you that you don't need Poodle
Shooters or cases of ammo for a simple economic collapse ( “simple”
as in all to follow will be far worse ), and you do NOT if you have
more important things to focus on like FOOD. Did I mention, FOOD? I
know none of you are unarmed or without ammunition. Even a rimfire
will back off roving gangs of disadvantaged youth ( even if they do
return and firebomb you ).
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Do you have a cupboard
full of half a years non-perishables? That isn't your
post-apocalypse food, it is just your everyday eating with the grid
up bought on sale food stockpile. Easily under $500, which includes
meat and butter and plenty of carbs. If butter is too much you can
easily substitute some kind of nasty cooking oil ( yes, princess, I
know you use olive oil. Good for you, you get to leave a better
looking corpse. I myself trust butter before olive oil that probably
slipped in rapeseed or some other foulness ).
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Do you have a place to
go in case you are unemployed and lose the house? Stop crying, it
will eventually be burned down by mobs anyway. Seriously. How hard
is it for enemy combatants to figure out how to set crap ablaze?
Expect it. And yes, I'm sure your mighty hero first responder
neighbor is a volunteer firearm who makes you feel safe and cuddly.
What happens when the power goes out, taking water pressure? Or the
city treasurer stole all the funds and your fire fighting equipment
starts breaking down and isn't replaced?
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I know I'm a broken
record, but I feel this is the next “five year long rimfire
shortage item”. Junk land. There is hardly any of it out there,
available at a reasonable price. Not stuff that also is available in
no zoning areas. Do you need to go ahead and put $100 down on a lot
and start making similar amount monthly payments? As soon as demand
soars, the charlatans come out of the woodwork, like the fake gold
coin bitches did after the metal went to $1,800 a few years back.
You might want to buy while the quality is better.
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I'm not going to tell
you to buy silver, because that is the very last thing a prepper
needs ( aside from the amount needed for property tax, to avoid
inflation ). If you already have everything, I'm sure you were
already smart enough to get silver because it is grossly undervalued
now. Not that you want to sell it later, you are just buying it
because the price is so low it is silly not to. As far as guns and
ammo, PLEASE be very squared away on food, first, both
post-apocalypse and as a grid up unemployment item. THEN you can
worry about the coming Crap Trifecta.
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Inflation,
transportation and gun control. Inflation because, duh. Monetary
inflation, scarcity inflation, energy inflation. As goes energy, so
goes the price of everything because of the need for transportation (
those industries that moved back from China did so mainly for one
reason-transportation costs went up ). If a barrel of oil went back
up to $100, added to all the trucking firms now going out of
business, how well do you think you'll fare with your Amazon Prime
free shipping for a giant bag of dog food?
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Or your Free Ammo
Shipping on orders over $50? Goodbye. Yeah, better be getting those
steel cased ammo rounds NOW, before transportation from Russia gets a
lot more expensive ( it is my understanding and please correct me if
I'm wrong, but crap Wolf is domestic and much better Tula is Russian
). AR parts are still insanely low, just not AS low as a year ago
prior to Red Flag laws sprouting up like mushrooms in Hilary's
cellulite. You were seeing $259 kits from Palmetto State even if
they were like unicorn sightings, $279 with free shipping. Still
$299 now, but do not delay.
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I don't want to get
into the whole gun control debate here right now, but I sense a
disturbance in the Force this time ( in twenty years, assuming no
collapse, people will be scratching their heads, “what's this Force
you speak of”, after Disney killed the franchise so dead it becomes
a cultural black hole ). It isn't just because my once beloved
Deplorable state went Red Flag ( honestly, I missed the news on it.
Embarrassing! I really need to subscribe online for a local paper and keep up with these events. I even missed Elko
county joining in the theoretical boycott of the new law. It merely
buys me a little time ).
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It isn't because all
the squawking by the communists. They ALWAYS do that. It is what
they do. It is like hanging around women. All you hear is the same
mantras. I'm a dingus tease. I need pie. I work harder than
anyone. Blah, blah. Whatever, bitches. Democrats are just
emotionally charged automatons. That is why all the males are
pussies and soy boys, because logic is not allowed and emotions reign
supreme.
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Don't misunderstand me.
Republicans are usually morons. Ah, duh, which way did he go,
George? Ah, duh, tax cuts for the rich. You have lower middle class
Republicans supporting tax cuts for the 1% because, Kapitalism!
Sprinkle flour on your ass and call you done. Jesus weeps. Anyway,
at least most Republicans makes noises like they have a pair of
testicles, if for no other reason than to appear to NOT be a
Democrat. No, the difference this time on gun control is simple
demographics.
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Remember, the
government lies. They lie about everything including illegal
immigration. The states are no longer the same color as three years
ago. You might think your state is only purple, and that is true by
population, but it isn't by vote. You can already see how Florida is
going to look, gun control wise, and Texas might not be far behind.
Least thee forget, Florida was one of the first states pushing back
against gun control, decades ago. Now look at the pathetic humpers.
Why do you think Texas is far behind? Demographics and Blue control
is a Seneca Cliff, slow going up and plummeting down almost
instantly. Okay, way too long today. Continued tomorrow.
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Wolf was a ukrainian product a while back, (old com bloc factory outsourcing probably) Tula is good to go . I like Barnaul as well as they had silver bear brands with nickle plated steel cased ammo, and some h.p. in handgun calibers. Golden bear was brass plated steel cased, good too but not seen much any more, cost for brass maybe or streamlined out? Sportsman Guide as others do come up with east bloc sourced ammo at nato standards quality and not just combloc calibers or steel cased, much cheaper than big name domestics. Happy hunting Comrades!
ReplyDeleteI wasn't a fan of steel case-until I needed a lot in a hurry.And you can always get brass later if things hold.
DeleteHonestly, from running gun(s) of many variants etc on a rental range it takes a lot of round counts to start breaking parts on mainline guns. The steel cases are not going to be detrimentally harder on a gun. Dirty, yeah, but we clean our guns every chance anyhow. At this juncture of the collapse better to have more ammo than not, so just lay it in and don't think twice or be poobahed by unicorn riding beard boys that insist that brass cased ammo is only allowed into their annointed rank and file.
DeleteEven without data to back it up, I feel very unsafe running steel case ammo in my war surplus guns. The things are practically getting to be collectables. How does one replace an extractor? Now, the AR's, no problem at all. So I'm playing both sides on this one.
DeleteYes, me too, for that kinda of a social justice movement. I am ramping up contingency actions plans as well, due to the band's tempo picking up lately. Shift from the planning and daydreaming fantasies of unicorn pastured redoubting, to a B.T.N. actionable plan in the here and now doable. If I can stay out of the camps, boxcars, and morgue fridge with a toe tag, good start. Even a primal hermitage like a savage is sporty fun, just to be avoiding those much worser spicy times.
ReplyDeleteTent size dug-out, nearby caches, make each camping trip a two-fer, and for barely more than sweat there is your BTN. Legal bought squat is best, but now ain't the time for "best", perhaps. Do what you can with what you have.
DeleteJim, I think aside from the Nancy girls in the Nevada legislature spoiling the soup of government, mainly as it pertains to their areas of operational control. I.E. in vegas metro hub and reno-sparks, carson city hubs. The cow counties or rurals in Nv (or like in other state's scenarios) may hold their own version of autonomy and not go along with clown world edicts. Those local politicians and leo-courts-systems have to reside in the area as well.
ReplyDeleteThey do not have that anonymous crowd hiding ability and goliath gov't to shield them. If in a similiar station or location I would hold the ground there, unless fleeing a worser locale or metropolis to the hinterlands. The new lines on maps will be due to ability to take or hold ground by force, not legislative words on paper. Upon collapsing there will new paradigms, prep for that eventuality as first objective, then just spectate with popcorn the lumbering soon to collapse systems in the here and now.
Well, you make me feel better, thanks! :) Perhaps all those bomb threats to the county courthouse ( and perhaps past grazing rights violence ) keep the fear of god in the local junior jackboots.
Delete"Get off of the bank's land," says the collector-enforcer. "You have no means to pay for it any longer, choosing to eat rather than pay rent and property taxes...(or just property taxes.)"
ReplyDeleteThis can't be communism? Communism is benevolent, isn't it? You know, screw the rich; give the poor a place to live and food to eat. But a privileged bomber said back in the sixties that 25 million citizens needed to die. Tough guy. He is number 1 on my list. Send a message by starting with him, and his wife. String them both up, upside down, in Chi-town.
All of the planning in the world for doomsday because these damned elites who need to be named (I do not doubt they exist, just who are they?) can determine the outcomes of my life, liberty, property, and happiness. How about we make their lives fearful and miserable? Yeah, there's a problem with that: rugged individualists are their own worst enemy; proud and independent, more interested in asking for what state you fled or why you haven't done your due diligence as a prepper, so when the time comes we face the enemy in small units and let the city boy with his 10K rounds fend for himself. Commies always were better team players until they couldn't handle victory and started killing each other.
They will want to confiscate my land and guns. Okay, let them try because they won't get either. They will have their hands full while millions of others refuse to submit. When the fascists and communists sink the system, they then don't get to deny me my natural rights, in fact they must defend theirs at this point. And it is time to quit hunkering down and waiting. A leader is needed, one who commands the federal army of citizens who take the fight directly to them. But, we are told, "Do not fire the first shot or you will see the militarized police with cause to attack us." Personally, I favor gathering intelligence while being funded by conservative rich guys. Intelligence with schedule information, with numbers of body guards, home addresses, etc. What are marksmen for? What good is an unemployed sniper? We see the head of the snake, yet we opt for the bloody way of fighting the other guy's army. A guy taught me a long time ago in coaching high school kids to play football, "If you, coach, are a street fighting type of guy, you run this kind of system; if you aren't good at street fighting, you run an ambush style. You have to know yourself and work within that knowledge." He happened to be a skinny chain smoking Irish street fighter. They know a thing or two about insurgency, those Irish. Bombs are easy to make. Just how fearful would the enemy be if we stopped playing nice, Jim?
What were the statistics for insurgency? You don't need a large percentage of the population to win. But I suggest that we are near time where selective elimination of targets may be necessary: politicians, judges, bureaucrats, propagandizers (but forget Hollywood blue checks). Now, just who will fear whom, Jim?
The problem with fighting back now is that you are living in their world. The UniBomber had the right idea. He was hard to catch because he tried to avoid technology, which is what his enemy would have used against him. We? We are dumbasses, trying to use The Man's tools against him. You can't rebel if you need His money, his electricity, his roads, his corporations. The reason there is no rebellion is because no one wants to give up those goodies. I wouldn't trust one swinging dingus out there unless they were already trying to leave the system as completely as they could. Then I still wouldn't trust them, because 99% of rebels are Intelligence assets trolling for recruits. Forget organizing. Prep for collapse. Or rebellion. Alone. Don't trust anyone past your dog. If rebellion comes, it comes. If needs must...In the meantime, I just don't worry about it. I have no system I want to save, nor any I want to introduce. Too old for those games.
Delete"99% of rebels are intelligence assets trolling for recruits."
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Bracken or any other potential leader would look at it this way.
Even so, when the system is full-on tyrannical, what are you going to do? Are you planning to live in a cave? What good is freedom without liberty? If I understand you here I should prepare for a life of solitary isolation just to evade being detected.
I don't look at my money as being "his," any more than I consider any of my natural rights as coming from HIM or his jack-booted thugs. What we fought for the first time was some ideas, one being exactly where certain rights come from. This is why these people need to be stopped cold now. This won't convince you, I know. Perhaps I need to re-think exactly where I should take this fight. And that is no offense to you as I see survival skills as necessary.
If all of the survivalists think that no fight is going to happen, and that hunkering down in order to live freely under the radar of the tyrants, then what do they envision for the future? Who or what will uproot the tyrants? China? Russia?
Oh, it will reach a point where we have no choice but to take up the fight. If the collapse doesn't happen first. My point is, go lone wolf. Army of one. Otherwise the odds are you get burned. If we all decide WHEN, and HOW, all on our own, no one can stop us. No central organization to defeat. True Libertarian defense.
Delete"...then what do they envision for the future?"
DeleteMy money is on the notion that the big guy is gonna over play his hand financially and the whole thing comes tumbling down. Without free money this rotten assed gov't will not exist. At that point the bottom falls out completely and it is every man for himself. Trust no one.
The only question is, why hasn't this already happened? Here is a video I'm posting tomorrow, conjecture on the Repo situation. Guy does a good jump of simplifying. One possibility-Treasuries are manipulated and oversold ( more than one asset holder per ) and the banks don't want them. Scary food for thought:
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DR7EG8SJ6U
"The only question is, why hasn't this already happened?"
DeleteThat has been my question for a long time now.
It's like they are denying physics or something.
Like Denninger says, "What can't be, won't be.", but it is.
Like you say, "The gov't ALWAY'S Lies."
True. That $22tril you see all over the place? WRONG!!! That MY is well over $2000 tril and climbing like it's ass is on fire.
Someone in the comments on that vid said, "It just takes one bank to hiccup and the whole thing comes tumbling down." That's my belief too.
What you'll see then is a mad dash for the airports.
Well, the 200 is including unfunded liabilities and that is easily solved. Nationalize health care as you inflate away true benefits in Social Security. Easy. Elect me, Bison 2020
DeleteRe: the fake Whistle Blower scandal:
ReplyDelete"Where are the Republicans in the Senate? Why aren't they subpoenaing every one of these people and threatening them?"
"The Democrats are in lock step on the same page."
This is what bothers me about the good guys. There is NO FIGHT. HIde. Hunker down. Let the other guy realize his beliefs that he actually OWNS you and me, that he has some god-given right to power over every aspect of our lives.
Where are the Republicans? Yeah, it means, Where are the fighters? They're scared? Hiding? What? Complicit with evil?
Complicit-sell out asswhores like every 999 out of a 1,000 politicians
DeleteAnything that modern healthcare is required. Dental work - hernia surgery you have been putting off. Thinking of lazic eye surgery but still haven't committed - now might be the time to make up your mind.
ReplyDeleteUmmm, okay, sure, BUT! Is the co-pay better spent for Spicy Times? Can you live with whatever the medical thing is? Remember, they could butcher you, screw things up worse, mess you up with meds, bill you too much, etc. It isn't just a simple trade anymore. You aren't guaranteed what they are selling.
DeleteRight. Screw the dentist and colon appointments, they don't help you shoot straight. But definitely don't cancel the eye appointment. :)
DeleteWho wants to know if they have colon cancer? You'll stay alive longer just ignoring it. Remember, the guy who invented chemotherapy had previously done unauthorized medical experiments of American colony residents. Evil Nazi type humper, before Hitler got his best ideas from the Yankees.
DeleteWell actually KNOWING your warranty is about to expire frees you. If the near future is promising a slow misery filled existence, then running away to die in those conditions may not make sense.
DeleteI figure I'm on borrowed time already, as I have no trust for the medical industry.
Delete“Who wants to know if they have colon cancer? You'll stay alive longer just ignoring it.”
DeleteWiser words than you realize Jim. When my father was diagnosed with lung cancer, he still appeared to be completely healthy. Had we left him alone as he was, he probably would have lived another few years. A few weeks into the chemotherapy, and shortly afterwards, radiation, the effect on his appearance and health was dramatic. He went from using a cane to assist in walking, to a walker, to a wheelchair, all in about a month. He still had arm strength at this point, but that soon went. Since he was helpless, my mother could no longer take care of him, so he went into the hospital. He never returned, aside from the brief time that he came home to die. Chemotherapy is a derivative of mustard gas (Yes, friggin mustard gas!).
I’m glad you quit smoking. Even one cigarette a day. You do not want to be diagnosed with lung cancer. Sure, you can say that about any cancer, but if you’re diagnosed with types of cancers such as lung cancer, pancreatic cancer (Also heavily associated with smoking) it’s game over. You have months, if not weeks left, not years. That chick that played Rhoda lived for 10 years with it. But to be honest, that’s the first time that I have ever heard of anyone ever living anywhere near that long with lung cancer.
I almost wonder if the lung cancer was more radiation than smoking. But, of course you are correct. Why play with fire.
DeleteHe was definitely diagnosed with lung cancer, Jim. But if what you’re saying is, that it was the radiation that ultimately killed him, yes, it was. However, long before the radiation, the effects of the chemo were already devastating. Either alone would have killed him.
DeleteNo, sorry, I was far from clear. I was saying, in general, among the population, smoking and lung cancer might have been overshadowed by radioactive fallout from tests and lung cancer after that.
DeleteSo when we get to that point, we don't band together.
ReplyDeleteKaczynski was pretty smart. Went solo and now is in prison. I think the near future gestapos won't be holding any trials when they round up individuals, preferring a 50:1 advantage?
I've got some soul searchin' to do.
Thanks for putting up with the Pilgrim. I know some jackasses who won't even respond. Eff 'em.
I'm a jackass, but I love hearing myself talk :) I won't say never band together, but I am saying the odds are really bad if you do. Heck of a chance to take. Yeah, no trials. Shallow graves.
DeleteIf you have not read "Resistance To Tyranny," (J. Martino) it is a handbook for many things including guerrilla style insurgency, so I have never heard the school of thought you proposed above "every man for himself." I am sure you have thought this through so I will not disagree; I can't; I know next to nothing.
DeleteEveryone wants to band together, but I go by the saying "two men can keep a secret if one is dead".
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DeleteWires good for the perimeter defense. And whatever doesn't explode your heart makes you stronger.
Delete@DG, best bang for the buck is to use that wire as a Tanglefoot field fortification at the perimeter of your AO. Installed on stakes 6" above the ground in a zig zag fashion and covered with leaves, etc. Remember, perimeter fortifications work both ways and don't give a shit who you are.
DeleteAn important lesson to remember from history is that those who advocated for, started, and ultimately succeeded in overthrowing TPTB during the French Revolution were the next ones killed by the very mob they unleashed. Be careful what you wish for.
ReplyDeleteTrue, but they are French. And invented the metric system. Don't get me wrong-I like those Frog mo-fo's. Precisely because they always go their own way. Just saying, their example might not be widely followed. Could just be communism.
DeleteIt looks like next-door Lander County has some better land deals than Elko. Lander County is supposedly the lowest population county in Nevada, but has the highest per-capita income (from the mines).
ReplyDeleteHere is some remote land with a seasonal spring (fill your water tank for year-round use) that someone appears to have been using as a hermitage, complete with a picnic table and maybe a concrete and steel hexa-yurt?
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Battle-Mtn-Battle-Mountain-NV-89820/2097753716_zpid/
Isolated land bordering the mighty Humboldt River and a railroad track for catching rides into town (not sure if there's an uphill stretch where the train slows and it'd be safer).
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/55-Beowawe-Geyser-Rd-Beowawe-NV-89821/2082912769_zpid/
There are cheaper lots too, 40 acres for $6000, but since there are no photos, I would assume it would be completely flat with no privacy (I didn't look though).
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Crescent-Vly-Crescent-Valley-NV-89821/2088306867_zpid/
Peace out
Well, when I say junk land I'm not really thinking a ranch. More like a squat, like one acre.
DeleteAnonymous, pardon me for cutting in. That 160 acres on the river in Beowawe is going to be worth some big money to someone's kids or grandkids. Good catch, there.
DeleteI do know that, I just can't stand the idea of someone else with the same idea moving in on the adjacent one-acre lot. For example, you could buy an acre in a remote subdivision where you have title to one acre, but practical access to 1000. That's fine until someone else gets the same idea, and now you suddenly have competition for resources and the knowledge that you're always being watched by the guy in the next lot over who has just as much right to be there as you do. Serious question, would you have enjoyed your BPOD property more, tolerating the neighbors and their increasing density over time, if you had 40 acres, or even 10 acres?
DeletePeace out
Pilgrim-no worries contributing.
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9:02-of course you are correct. I'm so focused on po boys being frugal and time being short I don't think of other methods.
“For example, you could buy an acre in a remote subdivision where you have title to one acre, but practical access to 1000. That's fine until someone else gets the same idea”.
DeleteYes, that’s the exact situation that my junk land is in. Though at least I have 2.5 acres, which is slightly better than a 1 acre buffer. But if it were to build up all around me, my junk land would all of suddenly become useless. I’m banking on the fact that few others are as crazy as I, and will not be doing so. Since I’m 5 miles from water/power, I’m hoping that’s enough of a deterrent. Indeed, if you can afford to do so, buy a much bigger parcel.
Five miles without power should be a great buffer. The power by the B-POD was less than half a mile away and nobody built up from that for a very long time.
DeleteThanks Jim. Yes, it’s my hermitage property in Elko county, and I believe that’s what you stated a while back. This sort of input allows me to rest easy. Though in a worse case scenario, I will have some sort of bugout strategy.
DeleteDunno, don't even really care...
ReplyDeleteMyself , over the past three weeks I been swinging the pick and removing fourteen cubic yards of dirt...
Last week hauled in and mixed up by hand seven yards of concrete to fill in that hole...
Hmmm , wonder what I'm building at the homestead ?
VA recommended that I do more physical therapy lol. Guess digging that much dirt by hand counts for therapy eh...
You are more of a stud than I, Spud. I can bike out to the BPOD, or I can dig, but I can't do both.
DeleteNo, just demented and throwing shovels of dirt around is both painful to the back muscles but also helps build them up. Remember I also cheat and have a little Toyota pick-up to do the transport thing.
DeleteYeah, not sure what was worse, pick and shovel or pushing the dirt uphill. The lungs have taken a beating between chlorine gas, biking at minus 15 and smoking.
DeletePlus that air is pretty dry out there.
DeleteOne of these days I'm a gonna hafta stop smoking myself... One thing fer sure tho, you stop using the legs and back...u die quickly. So I keep going n going, however slowly heh.
I skipped two days exercising-might be an upcoming article-and I went a week with a very twingey back, threatening me at every movement. That was almost as bad as not catching my breath every time I had that one cigarette. I feel like I'm on that swords edge. One slack moment...
DeleteSpud, is it bigger than a breadbox.... A really big breadbox?
DeleteAn underground archery range? A wheat repository? A safe house for when prophet Bison takes a sabbatical?
It's close to the above ground archery range and much, much larger than a breadbox.
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