LONG BUG OUT
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You know I hate bugging
out, at least for serious distances. The
main problem is that if you haven’t been able to convince yourself to leave the
big city now, there is the danger that you’ll keep pretending and
extending. Pretending that we indeed
have more time to prep and hence the latest danger signal can safely be
ignored, and extending the time you stay in place. There is of course also the issue of current
crime rates, as scary as they are, have to increase after decades of decreasing
( crime always goes up in economic contractions ), and the fact that city cost
of living negates most of your perceived higher salary. Yet, a lot of you are stuck in place and not
just because you are too weak to say no to family or are too weak to live a
more physical rural life. Some are
genuinely stuck, be it living in a real estate underwater situation where you
are legally liable for the balance, or the fact you simply can’t take the
chance of not being able to get work in a high unemployment, low land cost
area.
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It is perfectly rational
to gamble on your current location, as you balance the lower probability of
imminent collapse against the guaranteed economic collapse from unemployment
with moving. I understand that my
insistence to ignore this and move anyway is, at best, well intentioned but
impossible advice. When the national
unemployment was 10% actual and the unemployment at local level was double that
at 20% where cheap junk land is, I wasn’t going to move there. Not while I had to pay child support and jail
with AIDS delivery via anal sodomy went along with an inability to pay it. So I shouldn’t be surprised when nobody wants
to move to junk land when the real national unemployment is 30% and so junk
land locations are much higher than even that ( nor should I be surprised
nobody wants to buy my Texas land for a mere hundred bucks plus $60 in filing
fees, when that area has zero jobs ).
Yes, even I get blinded by my own brilliance at times and my junk land
living idea is so priceless I was able to ignore its near universal
infeasibility. It was what I was always
looking for all my adult life and was an improvement for me. For everyone else, it seems that no, this is
NOT what they want, desire, wish for or even believe to be an option.
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So you want to either bug
in or bug out and just because I denigrate both choices doesn’t mean they are
not your only viable choices and I should respect that and work with you. Of the two, bugging in is the worst choice
and we will save that for another day so my pea brain can work on it longer. Which leaves bugging out as today’s
issue. Can we make it cheaper and safer
than conventional advice ( without insisting on bicycles-which I understand are
deal killers )? First off, I don’t
believe that bugging out will actually follow conventional scenarios. More likely, the true civilization collapse
will take place over a scale of a few months or even a year rather than
overnight. The stock market collapses
and the PetroDollar collapses, both bring on intense issues on their own but it
shouldn’t ( could be but more likely won’t be ) be an overnight collapse of civilization
itself. The government won’t fold up its
tent just yet. You should in theory be
able to depart in a situation similar to a camping trip rather than a civilian
exodus from Paris as the Nazi’s attack.
In theory.
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What I hate about Yuppie
Scum bug outs are the assumption you leave after society has descended into
anarchy ( they assure a overnight collapse, be it a EMP or solar flare or
similar instant apocalypse such as an asteroid or nuclear missile impact )
thereby increasing your odds of dying exponentially. I also think living in the city currently is
a good way of coming to harm now, so a lot of my displeasure also stems from
staying around long enough to need to bug out.
You have to admit, in a lot of Third World cities very violent crime is
prevalent due to social disorder and government induced anarchy, and a lot of
our cities are very close to being one of those crapholes. In fact, I would even wager that since we
massage all of our statistics it isn’t outside the realm of the possible that a
lot of ours are worse than a lot of theirs, even with their vastly larger
populations. Such is the nature of lying
to the citizens to mask economic collapse.
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But realistically, you can
at least relocate to a less large less vicious city and probably already have
done so if possible because it is an immediate family safety issue and you aren’t
a complete moron. I hope. And more likely than not you’ll lose your job
in the very beginning of the next and probably last collapse, the ending
collapse which includes civilization collapse but starts with the final
economic collapse. So, here is the
key. You won’t move now because you know
there won’t be another job elsewhere.
So, if you lose this job, in an environment of national 30% unemployment
you can pretty safely guess that this will be your final pink slip. THAT is your early warning
collapse-wise. You can’t stick around
waiting for another job, but rather must go into immediate bug out mode. Waiting any longer and you drain
irreplaceable reserves and start getting in danger of being stuck in place as
REAL danger starts erupting. Things like
Black Ghetto extensive riots ( I don’t think Blacks are less intelligent as a
race, but I do believe the majority of Blacks in this country were breed to
minimize mental capacity and those descendents don’t as a general rule
gravitate towards encouraging or fostering mental activities as a whole, on a
cultural level. The GENERAL rule will be
for most Blacks to believe in government payola long past governments ability
to do so and so until the end Welfare Benefit Increase Riots will be the
norm. Even if it isn’t, then you face
the worse Kill Honkie Mo-Fo Riots as ad hoc permission was granted in
perpetuity by Obama for such actions ).
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As long as you are bugging
out in advance, this is no where near as poor of a strategy as I’ve long held (
taking into account I dislike megopolis living now, and hate bugging out as
preached in an atmosphere of during or following an overnight collapse ). Don’t misunderstand me. I advocate large city living avoidance
NOW. That won’t change. Here I am merely stating that if you must
live in the bigger cities, you can make that work as a strategy even if I
myself am NOT agreeing that it is a good idea.
The best first idea is to minimize how large of a city you must live in,
if possible. The next best strategy
would be to move as close to your junk land as possible, while still being
employed. You keep everything in a
storage facility and have the means of transporting your equipment there as
needed. This again assumes you are
bugging out PRIOR to the real collapse.
Next up would be the least attractive option, long distance bugging out. Hey, better than nothing, right?
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This assumes you cannot
move to a smaller city, nor can you move to a city close to junk land. It assumes you aren’t going to bug in,
because you are not THAT desperate with zero options but can still choose to
bug out. Since you are not planning on
waiting until the last minute you don’t need a combat vehicle armed with a
combat fire team to fight your way out.
It assumes you can afford junk land now but can’t move there, and that
your wages are sufficient enough to keep a dependable vehicle in good working
order ( if it isn‘t, there is bugging in or junk land relocation since if you
are that poor you are either stuck or footloose ). It assumes you are still lower middle class
rather than poor, and that you have no earthly ability to emulate Yuppie Scum
Elite in your financial abilities. The
only thing you must have forefront in your mind is the willpower to leave in
time. This must be war-gammed and
decided ahead of time. You can’t have
plans to move with unemployment but with the wife suddenly deciding to stay
until you find another job. You won’t. The economic collapse is too far along, the
end of the PetroDollar too close, the derivatives market too near imploding
again for you to believe your job is replaceable this time around.
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You know, I actually tire
of repeating this. Peak Conventional Oil
was 2005. Which brought about the
2007/08 collapse economically. And
following that we have doubled down on every behavior that increased the
intensity of that collapse. It can’t end
well and it won’t. It will be much
worse. You lose your job next time, that
is it. Fini. Game Over.
GET. OUT! That will be your cue. If you wait much longer there is unrestrained
crime, government road blocks and worse.
As it is, you won’t even find gas, even in “peacetime”. Shortages will be normal, although
unemployment and lack of disposable income MIGHT see this as a less severe
period than in the 1970’s. But you’ll
definitely need to plan for that. It won’t
be like after the EMP when you have the only working car, but it will be akin
to a joy ride through the ghetto at night, danger wise. This is a viable plan, IF you can leave at
the first sign. Tomorrow I’ll cover
supplies and transportation. For now,
you just need to know this is a final unemployment bug out, not a total
collapse bug out. Continued.
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* By the by, all my writing is copyrighted. For the obtuse out there
With every waking moment, and in your dreams too, every person so be trying to figure out a way to make money without having to 1) work for 1 employer only, 2) work at a place apart from where you live, 3) working for pre-taxed income.
ReplyDelete1) If your one employer gives you the boot your life is now in immediate turmoil. You should have a grocery list of *employers* that you work for part time as they need you.
2) It costs money to work at a *job* more than you are willing to admit. Why would any sane person *pay* to work?
3) If someone hires you to mow their yard for $20 then tells you he is only going to give you $15 just because you would be livid. At that point you tell him you will mow the yard for $25 and he can keep the other $5 if thats what he wants to do. Further, if you want to wear raggedy shorts and no shirt while you mow the yard he has no say about it. What, is there a shortage of yards needing mowed?
If you have junk Texas land let me know some info about it, precise location so I can look at it on Google Earth, property dimensions, and any other info you might have. Looking at it on the map is the most important part. Thanks.
If you are serious about the land, e-mail me and I'll be happy to get my paperwork from my place. Perhaps you can find enough through the tax bill? I have that.
DeleteAB 552 T Meux Sur, Oak Tree Estates, Lots 34 and 34A
I'm not sure if it is Henderson County or Kaufman county-both want tax on it. $5.50 and $2.50 a year. The two county tax makes no sense to me. Not sure if it is a scam, or a joint county school system or something else weird. I also bought title insurance through American Title but they kept putting me off, so I don't know if I have that or not. As you can tell, I don't worry too much over small details outside my specialty :)
OK, I looked up both counties, and the border between the 2 is about 30 miles from the southeast outskirts of Dallas and that's a little too close for comfort.
DeleteCurrently we are about 50 miles from a major metropolis and that makes me uncomfortable.
When we moved here 11 years ago our humble abode in the dense forest seemed plenty far enough from Urbangorillaville but after a decade of reading people like you on that internet 50 miles doesn't seem to be far enough away.
Was recently looking at some land in west Texas but after about 10 mins I was all depressed feeling and started looking at sw Colorado.
Thing is, no matter how remote a place is, as soon as we move there a whole fleet of assholes will move in right next door and start making life miserable again. For the life of me I will never understand why people go way out of their way to make other people miserable. I have spent most of my life trying to do the opposite. I just wish to be left the hell alone but as I get older I am realizing that is probably not possible until I at long last cross over to the other side. sigh
Their life sucks, so yours is going to also, if they can help it. Probably only subconscious-if it wasn't they would try harder.
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DeleteWest Texas is hard country; I'd avoid it unless you are willing to live like an Apache. South Texas is Upper Mexico. East Texas is just Louisiana with those attendant racial problems.
If Texas, I’d favor North Central, between Fort Worth and Albilene and comfortably south of I-20. Water is a major consideration. First and foremost you must have water. Annual rainfall isn’t much over 30 inches, and can be less.
Generalizations, of course, but useful guidelines.
West Texas is great for nearly free land, isolation. But yep, without a motor vehicle the smallest town is unreachable. That doesn't even consider water.
DeleteYes, "bugging out" means there is a place you can bug out to. Else, you'll just become a vagrant, like the family in "Grapes of Wrath" (the novel).
ReplyDeleteThat said, you'll just "bug-out" in order to "bug-in" there instead of bugging out in a metropolitan area, becoming a magnet for local large families / clans and various nomadic threats. But it's still better than to die in the first four days because of your neighbours having become bonkers (white or black or whatever - poverty renders all society values obsolete)
Bugging out to a place means you only carry what you need in order to get there. No "Battle Rifles" etc. Without proper hygiene and sleep (very likely) you will quickly look like a vagrant anyway, and thus will move in a sea of hostility against you.
You better have a group waiting for you at your bug-out place or the locals will have looted and probably seized whatever it was you thought you were "having".
Think the scene in Lucifer's Hammer where the astrologist loses his observatory.
DeleteRight. I never understood the rationale of having a remote location stashed with supplies for other people to take advantage of, you know, hunters, hikers, whomever. If I have the where with all to acquire-create the place and stock it I'm also going to live there so I can protect it.
DeleteSince we're already *bugged out* if circumstances warrant that we bugout (hate that childish term) even further well then, that means the Alice large with the full kit including battle rattle and living supplies that we carry including tent, sleeping bags, etc.
While we are equpied to do such a thing it will have to get pretty rough before we take that route. Suffice to say, I will have to be down to less than 1000 rounds before I pack my shit and vamoose.
Folks are always looking to win the lotto, even if it means taking your stuff, now or later. Just life.
DeleteI live in a city and own agriculture zoned scrub forest land with the family camp site there. I like to putter around out there on different projects. It is a huge deal what the normal commute time is. Mine is about 60 minutes and it makes getting stuff done there much more feasible. I am out there about two weekends a month. Double the commute time and I would rarely get there. A longer commute would not get me any more away from people.
ReplyDeleteThat sucks when a two hour commute still leaves you ass deep in crowds.
DeleteI recently discovered this site via Woodpile; gotta lot of useful info already. And this post resonates with me very much. For marital (in the best possible way) and medical reasons, and being DownUnder in NZ, I will be staying put and if Fate Decides, DIP. But the best possible end strategy for me and more importantly my loved ones, exemplified by this site, is frugal planning.
ReplyDeleteSee, I told you guys 9 out of 10 doctors prefers frugal prepping!
DeleteThank you for continuing to pound out the message of getting out now. I feel like we're at 60 seconds to midnite. If I were still in civilization I'd be anxiety-struck. I'm even seeing more brash and rude behavior among nature lovers or the occasional mountain biker traversing the forest. Everyone is in a bad mood, almost subconsciously expecting a cataclysmic ending. I've been full-time camper for awhile now. Very hard and inconvenient while still trying to navigate normal life, but it's making me mentally and physically strong. I'm Living thru all types of physical hardship and reduced food consumption, unintentional, but between the constant rain and wildlife, for safety I have to cook minimally. Besides the bears I now have a mountain lion making nightly visits. It's enabling me to get used to discomfort, eliminate pampered novelties and just live close to the earth and become hardened. I know what's really necessary and it's not much. I'm especially developing a major disdain for privileged expectations. The ships going down whether you try to meditate it away or not. Wake up idiots! You will be dragged if you rebel against the inevitable.Dont say you weren't warned you imbeciles.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry, my helpful reminders will soon be seen as nagging and repeating myself :) Your life sounds...weird. But unigue. Keep the hatred!
DeleteAt the current point my family and I will have to bug out - 15 miles if we take the longest road route. Since our camper there got invaded by mice we need to start cleaning it more intensively, I also need to fill our mobile water tank so that we have that waiting for us. We have a little solar, batteries, inverter and charge controller, generator, firearms and ammo but no food or soft goods (clothes) there yet(mice you know - we don't have good enough mice proof containers yet).
ReplyDeleteThe plan if pink slipped is to move to the land ASAP, insulate and rodent proof the camper for the winter, get the propane tank and heater installed ASAP afterward. Cancelling all our in town 'utilities' and rent will save us nearly $1200/month BUT without a real shelter it is highly likely that we will be freezing our behinds off the first winter, between the cold and its effect on our health and wanting internet to help the kids education is why we stay in town for now. Hopefully I can finish building our super insulated little house in the hillside before the pink slip comes. But if not I have the waterproofing, insulation, doors, and windows, and a cheaper -if more labor intensive (by a lot) -alternative for much of the rest of the building supplies aka earthbags. As long as I have the job I can spend nearly half the job income on building supplies or preps, and the other half on general expenses and living in town.
Damn mice, they are vile humpers. Mine die off every winter and a new horde take their place. I did have a Live & Let Live attitude until they chewed up a wool sweater. That was crossing the line!
DeleteYeah. Rodents rule and all that. I've a number small traps out, which keeps down the damage. I've caught mice, rats (about 60 over last winter), rabbits, birds, toads, and the occasional small snake in these traps, mostly rats.
DeleteStorage must, repeat MUST, consider rodents.
Our cat had a new mouse every single night. Little humpers must not need water as we are high and dry.
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