Wednesday, June 22, 2016

ptb snafu poda 3 of 4


PTB SNAFU PODA 3
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Now, I realize that I’m veering dangerously into sci-fi/fantasy territory here.  As soon as you say “elites benefiting from collapse” you get a chorus of catcalls such as “they design a disease to kill us all”, or “gun control is the way to One World Government and Blue Helmet Rule and the Mark Of The Beast”.  Please try to calm yourselves and let’s try to think rationally.  Remember, most of our elite are just as much of a dumb-ass as we are.  A few are ruthless.  Bill Gates was always just an ugly insecure little dweeb turning to computers to cope with hate and rejection.  Any intelligence he possessed was turned to that venue.  One day he saw an entrepreneurial possibility and pounced on it, then never created much of substance again, letting his Attack Lawyers fend off probably legitimate grievances as he enforced his monopoly.  For all intents and purposes he was a One Hit Wonder that tripped over a turd and came up smelling like roses.  You really think he is capable of Ruling The World?  Do NOT confuse focus and ruthlessness with wisdom or intelligence or ability.

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The elites are not going to cause a collapse, past a certain point.  They can identify a weak spot and exploit the hell out of it.  The response to 2008 could be construed as Mass Idiocy ( playing with derivatives was tried and failed miserably in the county of Long Beach California in the mid ‘90’s and in the later years of the same decade with Russian financial [ by US Nobel prize winners-the schmucks ] instruments ) or even a deliberate act.  Why not get rich while simultaneously critically weakening the economy?  It would only take a few players to steer the greedy on target.  My vote is Goldman Saks, but I have little proof beyond their Teflon performance to date.  If you knew that Peak Oil was really A Thing, and you saw that war failed as a financial bail-out, so obviously the Gig Was Up, why not engineer a financial near collapse?  Again, all you are doing is making it obviously easy for all the ruthless morons to act greedy.  How hard is that?  It doesn’t take a conspiracy past the top dogs.  There is one scenario I can give rational credence to.  But a designer disease?  Oh, sure, it has been done.  AIDS being the obvious one ( it erupted far to close to simultaneous to be natural ), Ebola perhaps another-although I’m not convinced of that one.  I’m also highly suspicious of the Barnyard Flu that hit Mexico City right as Obammy visited ( factions of the PTB fighting for control?  I’d bet Hilary was behind it, as was Obamy’s owners behind whatever hit Hilary during that period where it looked like she had terminal cancer-perhaps the UFO aliens anal probed her and cured it ).

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But a Super Black Plague or whatever, to kill most of the globes population?  I don’t buy into that.  When a conspiracy takes too many people and is too difficult, as in needing a Miracle Weapon ( such as Marvin The Martians planet busting ray-gun/cannon ), it doesn’t fit the needed plausibility factor.  But, to return to a possible economic collapse-by-design, just weakening the planets economies, using resource contractions naturally occurring problems as a boost, isn’t just diabolical, it is easily done.  It takes no Super Awesome Cold Fusion Powered Weapon.  It takes no quantum leap gene splicing.  It doesn’t take a Dr. No secret island to coordinate a complex dance from.  You weaken the heck out of the economy, making a fortune in the process you use to purchase strategic assets, and then just sit back and wait for the implosion that occurs without your help.  The die-off is ridden out in style ( the idiots buying the half million dollar former missile silo apartments are not going to be among the surviving ruling elites-you need to apply a bit more imagination and resources to the issue.  Which, hey, waiting for the collapse becomes a neat hobby ).  Then, step in and start using the surviving people as pawns and patsies and minions. 

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Since, at present, almost all economic activities and resource controlling organizations are highly centralized, it isn’t going to be too hard to control the remaining petroleum.  I can’t say how long such an endeavor will last, but merely controlling a few areas should keep things rolling long enough.  It wouldn’t take too many armored units to secure a free fire zone around the viable corn growing areas and the rail linking them to the Louisiana oil pumping and processing centers ( even rail transported infantry and drones could secure the area-don‘t underestimate the ability of humans to justify anything.  A few extra luxuries and your troops will gladly massacre insurgents or rioters-look how bloodthirsty some LEO‘s can be for an extra ten grand a year plus having the privilege of being one of the few armed ones ).  Ship down corn, ship up oil.  The tractors keep running and the oil flows.  Once you eliminate all housing heat or cooling, all car commuting, needing to feed hundreds of millions of mouth breathers, our domestic oil production will feed a lot of serfs and transport a lot of military, for a very long time.  You have stretched out the arch of Peak Oil by quite a bit.  More tomorrow.

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16 comments:

  1. Yes, I think your outlined plan would be doable for TPTB.
    BUT- where is the profit in it for them? And can they really deal with the millions of 'mouth breathers' AND all the other black swans that will be swinging down?
    You are proposing a potentially stable Egyptian kingdom type scenario - but while on the collapse of a larger (global) civilization, and primary resource bases (water, fertilizer, soil, know-how, etc.) AND likely climatological and ecological changes? I doubt that they will be able to be dynamically stable enough to stay setup at that level for long - but perhaps it can collapse and redevelop into something similar multiple times like the kingdoms along the Nile did.

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    1. The remaining oil gives in the Egyptian longevity-after the mass die-off of course. Surviving the Black Swans will of course be problematic.

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  2. Just wondering, have you read....As Wind in Dry Grass, by H. Grant Llewellyn ?
    I about done reading it now, and found it quite plausible. Lots of action but a realistic view of post apocalypse actions of people, government etc.
    Worth a look ,and is on Monday unlimited currently.

    Package for you soon, if I don't screw it up before I'm finished lol

    Rob

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    1. About the only militia porn I truly admire. I've read it twice plus the sequel, an awesome talent. Worth having on paper but of course read it on KU first to concur with me as you worship my hair. Very angry the author won't write more.

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    2. Not Monday unlimited lol
      Kindal unlimited! Damn auto correct commie bastard...
      Figured he of golden hair would have read this one.

      Finished the little project I was working on and will be sending soonest.....

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    3. Apparently there's a sequel:

      https://www.amazon.com/Valley-Dying-Stars-Grant-Llewellyn/dp/1470096633?ie=UTF8&qid=1466632937&ref_=la_B0073RSYSI_1_1&s=books&sr=1-1

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  3. BTW, in case you misunderstood, I'm currently reading it on Kindle . Don't have it on paper. Yet is one worth having !

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  4. To guard the shipments from theft? Piece of cake.

    To guard the rails from sabotage? That is an awfully long stretch of track to watch, and it is so easy to cause just enough damage to knock a train over. Wouldn't necessarily even be clearly visible.

    Personally, I really think this is the type of collapse scenario the elites are planning on. And that will be their weakness. They will be relying on their plans and their preparations. The people who survive will be the ones who are quickest to adapt (and of course, the lucky(?)).

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    1. Historically rail sabotage has been here from the beginning, as has the military means to counter that. However, this will still be a blind spot as we've relied on trucks so long we lost the awareness/skills for the counterespionage. If you can stay ahead of them on this you should have a winner.

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  5. Gorgeous Hair!
    now to my point:
    Sometimes being a pessimist can keep you alive.
    Consider the following:
    It IS better (at least in my opinion), to attribute some fuckup to stupidity instead of malice. So, basically, i agree that some of this CAN/should be attributed to stupid "leaders".

    however, that being said NEVER put yourself in a position that the difference in being wrong will put you life in danger.

    Also, just because they are stupid fucks doesn't mean that they aren't ALSO EVIL. they could be both. the two are not mutually exclusive. There are philosophers that think evil is the root of stupid, and vise-versa... basically, they both require the denial of TRUTH... or something along those lines...

    -eviltwin

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  6. Note- a disease to kill us off is actually a good idea for the elite. It would be easy to do for cheap, with few players, and fairly easy to disperse too. The only down side is that plagues have a tendency to overcome various defenses the elite may have thought they had against the plague prior to release. "life finds a way" and that the elite want a more predictable population (crash and post crash) than a plague ridden one would give them.

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  7. bill gates thinks he is a demigod and knows what is best for everybody.
    the ego size on some of these tiny little people is amazing.
    like a giant hot air balloon attached to a tiny voodoo dolly.

    great coif, by the way!

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    1. JJ-I dislike the Super Plague theory for the fact that if it was so easy it would have been done already. The Soviets, for one.
      DH-yes, I think you can link the dollar amount with the penis size and IQ.

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    2. Remember that the elites are factions too - and that if the soviets had release plague X on the capitilists, the capitalist would have release counter plague Y, etc. The unpredictable blowback of getting BOTH X version 2 and Y version 1 in ones own servants is why not major country seriously entertains the notion at this point -yet- given some sort of big edge in vaccination/resistance though one of the major players might bring something out as a surprise. Also a well enough funded crazy @$$ dictatorship or terrorist group might find a way to unleash something.
      Any of which would be even harder to handle with the coming global economic crash(es).
      Previous performance is not guarantee of future proceeds.

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    3. Hmm. Okay, valid points. I'll have to ponder some-might even be an article.

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