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Tuesday, February 16, 2016

cubicle warrior 4 of 4


GO WEST, CUBICAL WARRIOR 4
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Okay, you’ve relocated if necessary.  Your relocation is most likely far from perfect ( I went from a overbuilt area of 100k to a too crowded small town of 20k.  I only feel marginally safer, but at least I now have a huge buffer keeping out even more folks.  Far from perfect but that is the reality of job hunting today ) but the best you can do.  I would advise you to seriously consider that.  Hump the American Redoubt or other fantasy moves.  Time is short, so don’t fantasize about crap that won’t happen in a perfect world and accept less than perfect but better than before.  You can NEVER increase your survival odds to 99% except as a rich recluse on your own island and you are not rich.  Again with the dreaming of money to save you.  Ain’t gonna happen.  You can only decrease your odds of sudden death.  Work with that.  So now, the dreaded Big Event happens ( Little Events have been going on for fifty years.  Don’t be surprised if the Long Slow Collapse suddenly plunges over the waterfall ).  Since you are still in the city, because we all are, working a job since nobody needs another ad choked survival web site covering the same Yuppie Scum advice as has been given for near that same fifty year time span and so you have to work a real job rather than from writing in the boonies, now the waiting game begins.

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If you are living in the West ( the normal arid part, not the few agricultural area-and if it is an agricultural area I would advise against depending on that if they are using irrigation or federal water works.  Rain dependent only.  Anything else has no long term viability and the worst of both worlds short term golden horde attraction ) your best bet for when things look to be irrevocably falling apart is to pull the plug on your city property.  Bug out immediately.  The reason for this is that city dwellers in the West have no where to go except a few water spots or the highway to the illusive “better areas”.  Everyone is going to be hitting the roads both in the East and the West, being an auto-erotica culture and believing that the gods themselves shower us with their favors while we are behind the wheel ( which is why they stay there so much- that, and just to irritate the crap out of me while I have to do the same for work and they insist on being on my blacktop.  What, they can’t wait a few friggin minutes?  Or are they just driving around in circles, waiting for me? ).  Subconsciously,  the answer to most will be to drive.  Their destination, Nirvana, will be the catalyst for leaving, even if it in fact turns out to be Hell, but just getting in a car and driving will fill them with all the hope they need in a crisis.  In the West, there is no real countryside to escape to.  It is nothing but wasteland.  Those that don’t jump into their Safe Place ( their vehicle ) will stay in place because there is some perceived safety where they are and none in the surrounding areas.  Stay in place where there is some food and water and shelter, or go to the wasteland and die for lack of supplies.  Those are the perceived options.  You can jump in your covered wagon and go out into Indian country or stay in town.

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In the East, by contrast, the countryside is full of farms and lush woods and lots and lots of water.  In the city, with WAY too many people, there is nothing but death and destruction.  Everyone will head to the promised land of limitless cornucopia.  It is just the opposite of the West.  Outside is safety, not inside.  Everyone will head out and swarm the countryside.  Your best bet is to hunker in place initially.  Now, I understand the urge to flee.  I would want to be in my countryside refuge myself.  Since your Eastern junk land is in the hills, AWAY from agricultural land ( still lush land capable of feeding the homestead family, just outside the future agricultural empire lands.  You want land that CAN’T feed an army ), there might be perceived safety there.  Yet, I would stop and reconsider.  You live in the city in a rental with an owned country cabin retreat.  The cabin is too far to commute to work, which is good in the long term.  But not in the short term.  I would suggest that short term the population is so concentrated that all but the most inaccessible areas will be flooded by city refugees, stripped of anything of value, fought over and then abandoned.  Perhaps being there to defend your property isn’t the best option.  Perhaps it would be better to wait for the locusts to strip the field and THEN move back to it.  Yes, there will be damage.  But nothing of value should be up there anyway, right?  If you live in the city you leave your cabin exposed to vandals.  Apart from the items you place to distract and confuse, all items of irreplaceable value should be buried.  I’d even suggest building from local materials so you can repair damage on site rather than needing to import items ( bury the tools which do this ).  And yes, staying hunkered down in the city goes against our fears and instincts.  Will it in itself be dangerous?  Of course.  Will it be safer than placing your life on the line to defend some plywood and sheet metal shack?  Your circumstances differ and only you know, but keep the following in mind.  The reason the East is so populated and desirable is its ability to grow food with good soil and abundant moisture.  Why wouldn’t city dwellers follow their primal instincts flocking to that in times of trouble?

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If you are in the West, you have no people outside the city to contend with.  You can’t grow crops but you can go nomad.  It will be a precarious existence.  If you are in the East, as long as you avoid the initial die-off and stay out of the bottomlands needed to feed armies, you will have the needed resources to survive after the collapse.  There is no best place for everyone, just the best place for you.  You just need to play it smart on the journey there.

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21 comments:

  1. http://www.bisonprepper.blogspot.com/2016/02/go-west-cubicle-warrior-2-of-4-or-5.html?m=1#comment-form

    “Since I am prepping here on the edge of the bakken where there are no trees lumber is expensive, and I am planning on walls made with the clay and rock under the land I own instead of with the typical lumber house or even worse a timber frame or log cabin house. Roof will be metal clad wood of course because I don't want a roof collapse to severely injure or kill an occupant.”

    Your comment from the previous post JJ Grey, that I thought that I would reply to here. I would seriously consider the earth bag system for your area JJ. You can do both an above or below ground, and you can still frame a conventional roof if you wish. That's what I'm planning on at my Elko land. I'll probably do a very simple root cellar constructed of pressure treated lumber, but very small (probably 4'x8' to offset the huge cost of the lumber) and an above ground earthbag structure. But I have seen some very nice earthbag root cellars, so that's an option as well.

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    1. Yep, earth bag, but since the bags deteriorate under UV, I am facing it with rock and sod and insulating with both foam board and straw (there are insects that will go after even plain straw so the foam is the last line of defense). Super insulated roof and masonry heater and wood cook stove supplemented with propane, to ease the transition.
      At least, that is the plan.

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    2. Have you checked out the rocket heater? I don't know how they compare to the masonry, but the authors used one cord of wood all Oregon winter.

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    3. JJ; I think the standard for the earthbag exteriors is simply a coat of mud plaster. You would have to look it up, but I think that it's as simple as that; mud with a small ratio of cement powder added to the mix? Though I'm sure that your plan will work just fine. The earth mix that goes within the bags themselves, I believe is a pretty flexible mix? There needs to be a certain ratio of clay present, but my understanding is that many soil types will work as is. Worst case, you might have to add cement or clay. With a exterior mud plaster, your polyethylene bags will have a half life of around 250 years (going strictly from memory here, but I believe that's pretty close?) without UV exposure. The mixture within the bags is actually intended to set up hard like a brick, even if the bag deteriorates.

      Wayne

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    4. Rocket mass heaters have a couple bad reviews in places with our sort of far north super cold arid winters. It seems that the flow of exhaust smoke gets reversed by extremely cold dense air pushing down in the chimney. Since rocket mass heaters are not designed with a closing feed door, and would require frequent feedings even if they did, the smoke ends up feeding back into the house, when it is coldest out. Something I clearly want to avoid. A masonry heater core kit is expensive (a couple of thousand after shipping - closing doors included.) BUT is more reliable, will have a more finished look, and is a better proven technology. Rocket mass heaters or home built masonry ones, may figure into future buildings.

      As a BTW - I read the following quote in a book recently and thought it perfect to share with you and the rest of your followers.
      "...(B)ut the soldiers in the airports have brassards of local police on their arm, effectively identifying them as militia instead of national army. If you can't feed or pay your troops they will serve those who can take care of them,"

      Chandler, Mackey (2016-01-31). They Said it would be Easy (April Book 7) (Kindle Locations 3349-3351). . Kindle Edition.

      I doubt the book as a whole is your bag, but the quote seemed about perfect to describe one of the situations the collapse is likely to bring us...

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    5. I mostly gave up sci-fi except PA. I actually tried Vin Suprynowicz new one-very good if bizarre-so I'm kind of due to return to the genre, tentatively. I'm going to give this guy a try, with his first novel. Thanks for the heads up.

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    6. Like I said James, I doubt you will like the book (too much optimisim for the small community it is about) but it does paint a depressing picture for the rest of the world..

      Wayne - clay and cement dont mix well, you are better off adding lime if you have lots of clay. I have so much clay (pretty much solid clay subsoil) I am going to have to bring in some low cost sand to keep it from getting to mushy. Our wind driven precipitation precludes any plain earth/clay plaster on the exterior - go cement, synthetic, or go rock/grass. nothing else can stand up to the extremes of weather we get (single bag experiments proved it so, to my disappointment, and that I needed sand for the mix).

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  2. My plan is to hide for 90 or more days till the population thins. Then Flee to my BOL .

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    1. Not a bad plan. My plan is to immediately panic. :)

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    2. The dangerous part of the population won't thin in 90 days, only the drug-dependent or "civilization dependent" ones. Give it to the end of winter #2.

      pdxr13

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    3. 90 days takes out most, given our JIT food, fuel and other life supports. Then bugging out is far less dangerous. Of course no one knows for sure how many will perish immediately, but I'd like to see the logical thought process supplying millions from the near zero present stocks of almost everything.

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  3. Neat history from the 1880s, in the Smokey's one of the Ogle family farms was 80 acres. It was steep and deemed unfit for farming, logging or animals by the tax assessor. This family raised 12 kids on what it produced.

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    1. Note to those looking for a conventional bank financed farm.

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  4. "There is no best place for everyone, just the best place for you. You just need to play it smart on the journey there."


    Some of your best advice, ever.

    Idaho Homesteader

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  5. food for thought. use unconventional means to live. i.e. sewers, swamps, lakes, abandon buildings etc. plenty of critters to procure for sure. if u do it, speciality skill needed, equipment as well. Dont worry about a 5 star wife tho. don't see it happening. just take what will follow. lol. peace

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    1. Lock her outside when the street rabble first appear. That should knock two stars off immediately.

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  6. Find those places that are still sparsely populated because of the severity of the climate or topography or lack of obvious resources. Tough people settled those places and survived, and to bug out to there, you'll have to be tough, too. The horde that swarms about the countryside will avoid those areas "Nothing there and it's way too hot/cold/rugged/whatever". The horde will look for easy pickings first. By the time they decide to head for that area, many/most will have died off and the survivors, while desperate, will not be in suitable shape to challenge those that are entrenched there (if they planned well).

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    1. True, but my concern is most won't recognize the severe location because the luxury of oil imputs masks that.

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    2. Such as the Northern Nevada Desert. Too hot during the summer, too cold during the winter, too dry almost all year round. But people move there and put out green grass lawns, hop from their electric climate controlled house to their electric climate controlled car, to work in their electric climate controlled cubical, and shop in their electric climate controlled malls and mega stores. If they stay outside for more than an hour they would die from the shock of it. And of course if the power gets interrupted they think they can "just drink lots of water to stay hydrated" to deal with the temperature extremes. Hahahahaha!

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    3. Moron coated morons with creamer moron filling.

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