Let me start out right away by saying I don't think the Corona Virus is going to be anything much past the SARS scare. Of course, this is just a guess on my part and I could be way off. And as usual this is written a week in advance and things could have changed. I do think that the one thing most alarmists are missing is that the one constant worldwide pandemics share is that usually you need starvation, famine, malnutrition to first weaken the herd. Usually. I know that the Spanish Flu case doesn't follow that guideline.
And perhaps not the Feather Indian Smallpox Outbreak ( but, not having cows... ). Records aren't too thick on the ground, but the natives on one of the islands Columbus first found were cannibals. Whether this was ritualistic or borne of necessity is unknown ( although I haven't studied this in any depth and could be wrong assuming the worse ). The plagues of Europe did follow the starvation then disease model, and it seems the Spanish Flu is the outlier. The disease started only as lethal as any other minor outbreak. It was the following mutations that proved far more deadly.
Usually a disease rolls in and the first is the worst, each wave following far less deadly as the strong survive and breed. The AmerIndian Smallpox tales of blankets holding the disease was from subsequent outbreaks and far less deadly than the initial 90% exposure and die-off. There was a reason the east coast was chock-a-bloc full of lush forests by the time White settlers showed up. All the heavily populated centralized civilizations had been wiped out, the forests had recovered and the decentralized small tribes were in constant conflict ( just as the Dark Age in Europe after Rome ).
Now, obviously, Beer Virus could buck the trend and be another Spanish Flu. I'm just saying that the odds are that most of the time you need a food crisis first, to be a true civilization altering event. We are merely playing the odds here, that is all. “Peak Prosperity”, while by no means cashing in their Doom card, does think the Chinese reports are BS and that is more serious than thought. “The Atlantis Report” ( a strange site that uses a voice synthesizer and a fuzzy foreigner language to English translator, but which can have some valuable economic information. Not always, but enough times ) questions if it is man made.
They also think this might be-conjecture only-the bankers are behind the event, an attempt to hide the ongoing economic collapse. I'm not sure about that, as the bankers never care that people know they are evil twats, but Atlantis also covers the Beer Virus economic effects rather well ( HERE ). Even if this isn't a civilization ender, what if there is enough after effects to be the black swan event popping the everything bubble? I thought we could cover that, and discuss how this is a great wargame, if nothing else.
There were videos of nearby towns putting up makeshift barriers across roads. Dump trucks full of dirt. You don't see military personnel, but these could be officials acting independently of Beijing. It LOOKS scary, as if everyone is panicking, hard. But then, Beijing itself is quarantined. Along with cities in the multi-millions population. Can you imagine the US trying to do such a thing? Just Los Angeles alone, even with natural chockpoints, would never be effectively sealed off. Our police are there for revenue collection, not real security.
I don't think I've ever heard of so many cities locked down at once. It is enough to force one to question those failing to panic enough. It is just with all the past crying of wolf, it is hard to get too excited here, even with the seeming signs from China. Not that I EVER hesitate to panic early and often. But my main conclusion is not to worry overly much. I'm not claiming I'm right. I could be wrong, as I'm always terrible timing the collapse. I'm just reporting my non-reaction after an hour spent on You-Tube. It LOOKS scary, but the Lizard Brain isn't reacting. You just take that for what it's worth.
As to the financial effects, now THAT I can believe. How much of a slowdown in manufacturing caused from China freezing transportation would it take to really screw up the US economy? I would wager, very little. We don't make diddly here anymore. Every day there are more reports of mass lay-offs from factories ( “no need to panic! The stock market is well!” ). Even in the gangbusters ( sarcasm ) fracking sector ( granted, I admit, after Peak Fracking, this is natural. It is more the physiological effect ).
If you were the US military, and had already started cannibalizing equipment in inventory to keep some units running, and the folks that sold you a LOT of those spare parts suddenly stopped shipping to you, how long could you keep your war machine in operation? Now, what about the general US economy, where EVERYTHING is made in China, without any security concerns keeping some manufacturing here? If I was the extra paranoid type, I would almost think China staged this whole thing, to blow up the Western world economy.
Is that too over the top? I admit, it could be. Just ponder the possibility. China, in the same city a bio weapons lab exists, suddenly sees a nasty disease. It of COURSE does the globally responsible thing and over-reacts with quarantines. It doesn't work, because they give advance notice of shut downs, during the busy travel season Chinese New Years, and it spreads. Western airport gropers are Super Extra Vigilant taking everyone's temperature. For a disease that is contagious while it isn't showing any symptoms, for about a week. Ah, our Transportation Gestapo, giving the Keystone Kops a better name.
Peak Prosperity Dude mentioned that the WHO and CDC were too busy worrying about the economic impacts of quarantines, and not focusing on the disease potential/danger. I can believe it-their god Mammon will protect them. How funny is it that it is the Chinese communists, rather than the Soviets, that are selling us the rope that we hang ourselves with? The CDC is so busy removing Disadvantaged Youth from the gun crime statistics, while adding in all the White Deranged Deplorable Mass Shootings, that they have no budget left for actual contagious diseases ( well, ask a Democrat-it IS a plague, by gum! ).
Just getting started. I'll continue tomorrow.
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Following. These more modern manipulated (lab engineered) or constantly evolving cross pollinating type of viruses do not need a weakend host body (as if 'Mericans were not sad health sacks to start with) to petri dish grow or mutate. The modern humans despite all the biblical proclamations are not a special species and can be felled by many simplistic single cell alien invaders.ReplyDelete
The bio weapon is a nifty tool for macro powers to wield. No certain forensic proof of identifying perpetrators initiating an outbreak, and it is a universal false flag boogeyman to unleash on the ignorant proles. It's use can be multi faceted in objectives. Population reductions, economic warfare tactic, citizen control mechanism, black swan distraction feints for other operations or objectives.
minions being paranoid by default and skeptical usually always, will adapt to any coming pandemics just like it were a bad weather forecast. Hermitage and have wheat.
Paranoid and skeptical? I can't even get 90% of minions to understand we are running out of oil. Well, I'll just hope for the best, that Darwin hits them upside the head without actually killing them.Delete
Anon 8:08...I'm pretty sure anyone with money and smarts to create a bio-weapon is intelligent enough to realize it is TOTALLY indiscriminate & unpredictable.Delete
You don't release bio weapons to accomplish discrete objectives like economic disruption or black swan distraction.
You think the US gov intelligence agencies are smart? AIDS comes to mind, and yes, I realize few agree.Delete
We minions understand peak oil your fine hairness. we share your thoughts or wouldnt be here.Delete
Of course they are smart. The one I was part of, were very proud of the fact that only the top ten percent in intelligence scores, were allowed to be members of it.Delete
Don't want those types in the grunt ranks lol. Can't be having them think for themselves.
Nightshift-okay, sorry, poor attitude dayDelete
Spud-there is a difference between intelligence and smarts, but I understand what you are saying. The MP's were full of retards ( former criminals, former bikers, diversity hires, meatheads ), but we were bunking where the intel gatherers were. Some you couldn't understand how a smart guy like that joined the Marines, stayed in, etc. But even then, you were ultimately working with institutional stupidity, regardless of individual ability.
James , those which were bunking in with MP's would likely be just regular Army military intell. The outfit we were in was a branch separate from all regular Army. Always housed only with other ASA personal. Of course this was back before the ASA was merged in with the rest of MI right around 1980. I'm sure , like everything else once diversity happened things went to hell.Delete
Inscom unit, multi-branch working at FS Kunia but housed at the AF base next door ( Wheeler? Right next to Schofield Barracks HI ). The Korean 2nd ID were even worse in quality. Bunch of kool-aid drinkers, thought they should be jarheads. I can't imagine how things got worse in 1980, as diversity is our strength.Delete
Funny anedotal to align with this theme. In Las Vegas there is strip casino shows that utilze performers 'from all over the world'. There was a handfull of chinese performers that very recently returned from visiting their motherland and whom were "sitting out a few days of performances as a precaution". As if that is helpful, considering asymptomatic during it's cooking period. The authorities are clueless and incompetent.ReplyDelete
With the open sewer type of civil conditions along with the gypsy like fluid travel in CONUS, even the food joints and fuel stations on I-80 around Elko is patient zero waypoints. Just saying. Enjoy the plague, couldn't happen to a more deserving society.
The NOL works around the homeless. I'm surprised I'm not dead already. I think we would be safer if she was a nurse :) Yeah, not just clueless and incompetent, but two monkeys humping a football. They actually STILL strive for appearance and calm instead of useful results. It doesn't matter if this peters out, what matters is they can't react if it doesn't.Delete
My LOL, comes in contact with two to three thousand tourists every day at the zoo.Delete
I am potentially, so screwed...
This is why it will spread around the US like wildfire. The US has an enormous "internal 3rd world" with almost no access to medical care.Delete
And many in this internal third-world associate with the rich all the time, in the form of nannies, housekeepers, gardeners, etc. I see it where I am, people living in Dickensian conditions, taking the bus for hours to get to their jobs in Palo Alto or San Francisco, cleaning the toilets and caring for the children of the rich. There's no awareness that if your workers are malnourished and overstressed and get sick, likely you and your precious little brats will too.
Even in feudal Asia this was understood. If you took care of the local warlord's or merchant's sprogs, you got fed and clothed at least fairly decently, and you generally got living quarters too.
But the richie-riches around here treat their servants like dogshit, and also go to restaurants where the guys "back out house" in the kitchen etc are sleeping in alleys behind the place, getting by on tortillas, leftovers, and meth, and often supporting several others on their less than min. wage job.
Indeed, it can't happen to a more deserving society.
Spud-yeah, your odds are pretty well crap. Just about the time you recover from one major event, here comes another.Delete
Alex-the rich here are beyond retarded, zero situational awareness. It's like leaving the nuke codes behind at the mental ward
Been wearing a legit N95 mask in walmart for biweekly grocery excursions outside the wire for months already generally all winter. Prudence, considering scumbaggery out there anyway. The hired help as expected had the standard second glance observation, as if I was the nut job oddity. Screw public appearance perceptions, I am on a mission of survival here, and will be militant about it as necessary. They get used to it, and you go about your tasks in plain sight. Now as the media clutches aprons and cries woe me, that Minion doesn't seem to be that crazy after all. The military NBC masks from inventory are now forward deployed and will hang like a fashionable haversack from my daily attire like the chaps were doing during W.W.2.ReplyDelete
An Airline put a fellow off a plane (wearing his own gas mask on board, not seeing a problem with it, whom is he harming during a few hours flight?) for the offense of protecting himself with his own gear. Thus the ingrained sheep mentality and corporate/.gov malfeasance is as dangerous as the virus threats in the first instance.
Think for yourself and do the necessary. Or else.
Planes are dangerous. Funneled kill zone. Don't get on a plane. Groper Guard Goons, deferred maintenance from airlines for quarterly profit boost, Patient Zero labs. Change lifestyle accordingly that air flight is not an option.Delete
The guy wearing a legit gas mask (sans filter) on the plane was doing it as a 4chan stunt. But yeah, he had every right to wear itDelete
What rights do you still have in a flying sardine can? Freedom of speech ( say "terrorist" )? Freedom to arm yourself? Come on!Delete
Lord Bison, I don't recall any airlines crashing from deferred maintenance but have heard about how they just don't hold up well against Russian TOR surface-to-air missles.Delete
Also a couple of crashes for simply being TOO ADVANCED for the Ethiopian pilots.
I avoid planes because of hassles from TSA not because of safety.
Greyhound has higher death count than domestic US airliners (ref: shootout aboard a Fresno bound bus last night).
LOL-Russian missiles :) No, I'm thinking of mechanical failures not necessarily resulting in crashes, like the airplane that burst into flame on the runway. The Boeing fiasco was an unsound aircraft they tried to fudge the software on, so, not differed maintenance related just outright stupidity. It wasn't pilot error. I didn't hear about the Greyhound shooting. Must have been a non-White if they ignored the event. I think that is more a Fresno/California thing than a Greyhound thing.Delete
I remember us doing PT with our masks on, yes, filters in, and running around the base, substituting the words "gas mask" into the cadences everywhere we could. It was a pretty good workout, between the masks, the singing/yelling, and the laughing. It was our CO's idea.Delete
Article on the bus shooting:Delete
Guy was muttering to himself before opening fire. *Think* it was a black guy from that middle name, but I can't find any images purporting to be of him that I trust.
Just another day in the suck.
Running with masks. This is the kind of idiocy that prevails. I guess I wasn't enough of a kool-aid drinking to ever have any business joining up. But what did I know at that age?Delete
I'm pretty sure the Army masks were up to a little running, after all, in fighting a war you sometimes have to exert yourself. And I think the main value was in showing us that even if we're doing something physically difficult, the mask was not going to be a problem. And we didn't fun as far as usual either.Delete
This was something we just did once. I guess our CO was actually somewhat serious about having us prepared.
I couldn't stand the masks. Claustrophobic and I always had difficulty getting enough air. I couldn't imagine running, or even waddling in it.Delete
Did you see large sections of Africa are being decimated by locust swarms right now, stripping the vegetation? They're saying it has the potential to be 500x larger by summer. They're aerial spraying the locust clouds with pesticides out of desperation. These countries were already in borderline food insecurity, now they're being devastated.
Another new one on me, thanks. Russia stopped exporting wheat, Pakistan having another crisis with same. Get your food NOW, people.Delete