Tuesday, February 25, 2020

PEEv2c15part2


PEEv2c15part2
Junk Land, continued
Last time, WHY you want junk land. Now? How? How is easy peasy. You go to Land Watch dot com. I have a link to the site at the end of every blog article, in the small print, saying “junk land under a grand”. You send the seller money. They do all the paperwork. As easy as ordering a soft serve ice cream cone, just a bit more expensive. And that is it. Without a house or bankers, buying just land is a very uncomplicated transaction. Now, a few words on the site. At the top and right side are a bunch of ads. Don't ignore them. There are oodles and gobs of companies selling junk land.
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On the left is the dashboard where you control the search. Where you want the land, how much it costs. It is a pretty nice site, the only issue I've noticed is that a lot of rentals for office space were showing up. But I recognize a lot of the companies from my E-Bay land purchases, and the site was recommended by a minion, so you should have no problems. E-Bay still is a possibility, but it sucks compared to 2005 when I first started buying land there. A lot more restrictions and a lot less to choose from.
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A lot of these junk land companies offer money down and payments. It is a “financed by owner” deal, so no banks are involved. You can have the worlds worst credit and finance junk land at a reasonable interest rate. And they usually don't penalize early pay-offs. What more could you ask for? $50 down and $50 a month and in two years you own your own land, never to pay rent again. Now, granted, beware those $50 a month sales. It is usually in a bad zoning area, no water and perhaps no jobs. But they are possible.
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You could research every state you want to move to, then every county, for zoning particulars. My method was more haphazard, as I went through hundreds of land ads every day for hours, for months, before I found my first great deal. I learned about zoning through those. Fifteen years ago. I didn't want to read lawyer-ese to get specifics, just a general flavor for all the potential states. Details will of course matter, but I needed to know who to avoid and who to focus on.
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This was before Google Earth, and a GPS was still a luxury. It is a lot easier now ( I got paper plot maps from my county to find my first land. Now they have those online. The paper maps were much better. Just not quicker or handier ). Now it is a lot harder for someone to fool you. I always had the philosophy that I was spending $500. I could afford to get ripped off. Luckily, it never happened, although my initial criteria was low cost ( my more expensive land was close by, and I didn't have to buy sight unseen if I didn't want to. Plus, the sellers were incorporated-a bit less worry they were fly by night ).
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My biggest concern was zoning ( why I chose those I did-they allowed unlimited RV parking ), and water close by ( wells are a vulnerability, and why I stayed out of west Texas ). A legal county owned road for access. And of course a job ( pay child support or go to jail ). Then I focused on culture. Where were “my” people. I couldn't move back to California, that state and all who live there are dead to me. It is a death trap, on par with Escape From New York.
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I don't just mean fellow Whites. For instance, plenty of Whites in Louisiana, and that place had a VERY weird vibe. I left the same day I arrived. I would never, unless following a bosomy Sugar Mamma with an arsenal of HK-91's, and gold Krugerrand's falling out of her cooter, move to YankeeLand. I don't care what color they are. NOT normal people up there ( I met transplants in Florida. Half of them were foreigners culturally ). Color matters in a way. If the area is Latino, forget getting a job there as they all go to Like Colors. A high percentage of Blacks, yes, they ARE out to get you. Obammy sanctioned and awoke race hatred among Blacks, and I don't like being a target.
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To get a good idea of race, I looked up the location, the nearest town, under City-Data dot com. It is okay for Mexican's and Blacks to prefer their own kind, and by gum I don't have to be a racist to feel the same way. Unless they are racist also. But I'm far more focused on culture than race. In this case, race just points to other factors, employment and danger of crime. You know, profiling. But as exemplified under the above states examples, it is more about culture. Texas? I lived there six months, and never felt welcome. Florida? Too modern, in the personal isolated community-less sort of way. A lot of places are full of Yuppie Scum, rich twats screwing me economically.
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Nevada was the best fit for me, a stand 99.9% of survivalists disagree with. I don't want them here anyway, so there! Fight over your abundant rain locations with all the city folk. I love the desert, and I love the emptiness and quiet. I love the space between people. I love the cold, now, after I acclimated. Pick the spot YOU want. If it is the “perfect” retreat, but you hate everyone there, you will have a suck-ass life. We need to plan on a collapse, but also a life to enjoy if one doesn't happen on our schedule.
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Now, to finances. You need to buy with an understanding you are making an imperfect investment. You are gambling more than investing. The purchase amount needs to be small enough you can walk away. Ask any old White retiree stuck in insane property tax New Jersey, the yearly taxes more than the purchase price of the house fifty years ago. Gee, I wonder if his Social Security covers that. Ask any old White stuck in what is now a minority ghetto. They waited too long to move, because of that high cost investment, and now cannot sell high enough to move elsewhere.
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You can discover your new area is far worse than you thought. The county officials screw with you. A neighbor from Hell moves in after you do. Developers discover the area and bribe the zoning people to harass you. The nearby town closes its factory and employment crashes. You hate the weather ( a lot of Northern Arizona is more like high elevation Colorado than it is like low desert Phoenix, for example ). Perhaps you never even get the opportunity to move there. Land, at first, is an expense. Only after you successfully settle down is it a great investment allowing you to never pay rent or a mortgage again. Then it is liberating.
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Just beware it won't be a painless process. It won't be as cheap as you think. But it is worth it in the end. The freedom to live on $300 a month instead of $1,000 ( in conjunction with freeing yourself from a motor vehicle, in that case ) means you are much closer to economic freedom. Retiring ten years prior to getting Social Security was the best moment in my life, outside of having kids. You don't do that still paying rent. Junk land, the first step to quitting the Rat Race. And a nice survivalist tool.
( PS-you can always buy tax delinquent land, but I'm going under the assumption you wish to beat the occurring economic collapse and don't have forever to procure a lot to hold up in )
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note: an article on Beer Bug, but which details the dangers of antibiotics.  I've never stocked them, understanding their misuse is more dangerous than helpful, but I never had any details.  Here are some, and to me, they are scary.  The Market-Ticker Dude, so expect the usual Hobby Horse Hatred on the medical establishment ( rightfully deserved ) HERE 
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24 comments:

  1. “For instance, plenty of Whites in Louisiana, and that place had a VERY weird vibe.”


    Was it upon meeting your neighbors for the first time, and the first one exclaimed, “Nice hair, and you have a mighty purdy mouth there mister”. And the second one chimed in “Ain’t that the truth” (Ahh, Deliverance. The cinematic gift that keeps on giving :D )

    Gonna go out on a limb here, and speculate that most junk land being sold today will not be in close proximity water. Take a cue from the hobo from rancho costa nada, and have that years supply of water set aside. If you wish to stay at your junk land long term, then you will need to invest in a cistern. You could get lucky and find junk land in close proximity to water, but I’d assume the worst case scenario. And yes, I get that it’s a totally different game for those of you that are east of the Mississippi, but you have a different problem to contend with (Plenty of water and woods, but also plenty of population density).

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    1. In all seriousness, I didn't even talk to anyone there in Louisiana. I got off the bus, hoping to visit an Army buddy, and the lizard brain went off. Think, visiting a Baltimore ghetto alley at night. It was day, and there were a couple of old farts sitting and chewing the fat. No danger, per se, but the hair on the back of my neck still stood up. The longer I sat there, the worse it got, until I returned to Greyhound and bought a ticket to Wyoming ( no reason other than I always wanted to see it. It met no expectations ) leaving that day. Bizarre experience, but I've always trusted that voice. I just never had it that strong or quick.

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  2. You do know "Deliverance" was set in Georgia, right?? Or was just knee jerk bigotry against Southerners?
    I never met such scurvy mutts until I hopped across southern Pennsylvania.
    Cali just a stew pot of stupid. I truly don't understand how they know which body opening to shovel a spoonful of cereal into.

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    1. Always liked Southerners. Met a lot in the Army. Later moved there for 10+ years. But as any will tell you, they vary by state. Not a single culture. I'm a Cali native, and I agree with your diagnosis completely. Forrest could learn them some

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    2. “Or was just knee jerk bigotry against Southerners?”


      Nah. It was just a joke that no one was supposed to take even remotely seriously, that could have applied to any rural, homosexual, hillbilly gentlemen, with a purdy hair and mouth fetish, that now seems a little less funny upon further explanation :D

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    3. Never funny when you have to explain it. Sad Panda :(

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    4. To me it was set in America ;-)

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  3. Market-Ticker commenters suggest stocking aspirin, Tylenol, and various NSAI (non-steroid anti-inflammatory) drugs.
    Many people are allergic to those... or can grow allergic during use.
    Symptoms include difficulty breathing, lung fluid, bright red face, throat swelling shut... some of the symptoms you are taking the drug to relieve!
    And that overlooks the potential for liver damage from NSAI chemicals.

    Just because a chemical is unregulated or available without a script doesn't automatically mean every body can absorb unlimited amounts of it.

    Pharmacists go to chemistry school for years to learn interactions of those complicated compounds.
    My neighbor was an AirForce ParaJumper, trained in surgical maintenance of traumatic amputation and such, and he advises against any drug at any time.
    I retired as a Physical Therapist; I am convinced every doctor is owned by pharm reps.

    Bison,
    I strongly advocate avoiding anti-biotics.
    Anti-biotics are contra-indicated if infected with a virus.
    Without a lab, who knows if you suffer from food poisoning, flu, or out-gassing carpets and other petroleum-based plastics?
    Anti-biotics destroy the intestinal flora, and researchers say >90-percent of our immune system is in our gut.

    Excellent column, because without health...

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    1. You might remember I'm not a huge veggie fan ( not cooked, anyway ). I eat them when I crave them ( although lately I'm forcing myself, in anticipation of Beer Bug ). During the last Polar Vortex, when the idiot brigade simple needed full donation pick-up during minus 15 ( and that was after I biked to work in the slop ), I got a pretty wicked fever ( flu? Worse? ). I let it go too long before I took aspirin. Afterwards, including a few days with eating few solids ( mostly just drinking OJ ), my body was insisting on salad. Nothing had ever sounded better in my life. Ate that bunny crap for near a week, a huge trough of weed-like plants for diner. Then, suddenly, I couldn't stand the sight of it. I normally craved a single salad a month. I'm not telling this tale to get diet advice :) I'm saying my body told me what to eat to restore equilibrium. So, yes, I agree with the gut/intestine immune system and the advisability of drug avoidance ( although, perhaps not as long as I did. I also don't hesitate too long to take aspirin anymore. I can only hope I didn't do any permanent damage )
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    2. Takes years for nsaids to damage your liver.
      My doctor said I can take all I want for arthritis (I'm 59). Said I would be dead before I suffer from liver damage😊

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    3. I take both doctors advice and alt med practice advice with a grain of salt. Everybody thinks they are 100% correct, which just means everyone is full of crap. It's your body, make up your own mind. Just trust no one.

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    4. great book
      'ten per cent human'
      about gut biome excellent read eye opening

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  4. Not quite junk land, but I discovered there was a 5 acre minimum to qualify as agricultural land and get dirt cheap property tax. I paid a bit more up front to get 5 instead of the 2-3 acre properties I found. It was a bit like spending more on a rifle that uses less expensive ammo. Think of the total long term price, not the foot in the door price. The main limitation is any structure needs to be less than 200 square feet to keep the status of ag land. I can work around that.

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    1. Great move-taxes are what jams you up, every time. Because people are pussy's and won't Lamp Post the commies.

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    2. It would be a shame if your flowing mane were to get mussed as you were uncoiling the rope.

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    3. Piano wire is more traditional ( with lamp posts verses trees ), and that will unspool. No fuss, no muss

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    4. I own 22 wooded acres. With a singlewide the taxes are $204 this year. I can live with that. I may sell the 8 acres the trailer is is on. It would get me debt free and build my forever house. At 1000ish square feet my taxes would be about $700 or less but still doable. The gains in solar heating and security would be worth it.

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    5. Silver for property taxes. I still stand by my $100 silver ( in today's purchasing power ) minimum price. Have that 2-7 ounces for each year taxes and in theory, long run, you'll be okay in a mild collapse. Hard collapse, you'll be fighting county troops, not paying them taxes. Remember, silver was $50 back when that bought more, and prior to peak production. $100 should be a slam dunk. I think it will go to gold prices, but just the $100 should be a jelly filled donut guarantee. Of course, cash for the immediate next few years, waiting for JP Morgan's grip on the silver derivatives to slip.

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  5. I understand your desire to live in the most inhospitable location you can find. But come on, the Desert, walking for water and freezing cold with only sage brush to burn? I can see the desert people warming their fresh haunch of Liberal buttocks over a dried out pile of human feces. I want to live around some resources in the bad times. 50 inches of rain and a thing called trees that provide shelter, fire and shade, building materials, fruit and nuts, god gift of acorns, cover and concealment. Also the woods are full of little critters that taste great boiled or roasted.
    Instead of buying 1 acre or 2 why not buy 10 for just a little more cash. If I can do it anybody with a heartbeat can, and you will thank yourself later or your family will.

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    1. Your attitude is EXACTLY why I want to live in the desert. 99% of folks think the exact same way. The only reason we have the population we do is because the luxury of the grid right now. Nothing at all with where you are. Except later folks will move towards you. They will move AWAY from me. And if you look at the Bedouin, staying here in the Great Basin is easy living. :)

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    2. I wasn't trying to be a jerk, was kind of joking around. I understand what you like and your reasons. It just isn't for me. It's great that for awhile we still have a say where we can live. I want to harvest and grow things for myself and live on my property and not have to buy all my food. I want to prepare for the future but also I know tomorrow I am going to be hungry and want to eat. I like having privacy and would always be worried out in open terrain. I like having streams and ponds because I eat a lot of free fish.
      The population is the reason I purchased more remote land. Just over 10,000 people in the county and $800 a acre land. Elko the city is listed as having 20,500 people in 2017. If the die off isn't just right you could be in real trouble.

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    3. I didn't think you were being a jerk. Far from it, I enjoy your comments. I understand this is NOT a great choice short term, only long term. The 2017 figures are inflated. Subtract about ten percent. Folks crowded in, then left for their regular crapholes. As usual, per every economic downturn elsewhere. Folks actually think jobs are going begging up here. Idiots. They get unemployment and high cost of living. We should more of that, in stages. And yeah, I know the cards need to turn up exactly right. It was a great place to be for the 2008 meltdown. I'm hoping my luck holds. Hope is a terrible tactic, I know. But to a degree we must all engage in it. You have to hope the property around you isn't bought up and sold to yuppie scum fleeing the city. I have to hope the population falls drastically before the final crash.

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