greer mountain dude 2

GREER MOUNTAIN DUDE 2

Greer, in an orgasmic splatter of over confidence, declared the stair step collapse is good for at least another hundred years. Perhaps this is the Space Nerd of his youth returning, hard nipples at the thought of technology solving all our problems. Perhaps he views Fracking Oil as the newest and greatest technology. Otherwise, I'm not sure what energy there is going to be to keep us from a high dive into a shallow pool of options. Greer obviously “solved” the overpopulation problem by declaring no combat deaths were allowed, and now declares no combat over dwindling resources is allowed.

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Yeah, he believed the problem of world population was hype from the doomers. Because, as soon as everyone everywhere went over to permaculture, we could just carry on as usual while people slowly stopped having as many kids. That is what happens when you spend too much time reading Druid books. You kind of forget about human nature. Or reality. Was he not aware of Industrial Farming? Did he think it was optional? Sigh. Specialists trying to be generalists. Optimists thinking they can think pessimistically. Your bias is showing through, buddy.

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Let's look at China for a second. They are self sufficient in food grain. Everyone could get enough domestic rice. But for a complete diet reflective of a modern society ( as opposed to a peasant farmer society ), they import a lot of protein in animal feed. Pretend they solve their swine flu problem, they are still vulnerable to finances and transportation. What if there is a issue getting food from Brazil or Africa? Do you think the Africans are going to play the passive Irish in a potato famine? For five centuries Africa has played the Full Retard, constantly at war with itself to the point it couldn't fight colonizers.

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What do you think of them now? As oil supplies contract, the military power of the colonizers is thwarted. Africa merely has to keep being Africa to win, constantly aggressive and tribal. China not only has to transport food from the continent, it has secured that food through playing the Colony Game. Granted, they are bartering infrastructure for food rather than seizing by force, but it still needs a military there to secure the food. Any guesses how soon the rebels try to nullify the Chinese nation states agreement with the African nation state over that food? How soon China would ramp up military might after that?

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The world MUST move to decentralize as energy supplies contract. China's dependence of foreign food, drought stricken areas to include nuclear armed Pakistan dependence of foreign food, the US's dependence of foreign oil to fertilize and grow its food, all these depend of centralization brought about by surplus oil. As oil becomes less of a surplus, the only way to move is from centralization to decentralization. Yet, everyone is dependent on centralized systems. To think that the transaction will be less than catastrophic ( or to think it will last a long time ) is simply wishful thinking.

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Look at the US. It must implode, for some areas to survive. The West coast is worthless as soon as our Pacific colonies are lost. Once the West Coast is toast ( along with all the Left Coast Yuppie Scum BlueBelly idiots who somehow think playing the Brown Shirts to the Rothschild's will keep The Spice of perfectly insane real estate values and wages on par with the weather continuing to flow ), west of the Sierra Nevada's east to at least the 100^th Meridian becomes worthless territory it cannot supply or defend.

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The remaining land able to be farmed without excess oil inputs is chockablock buttholes to elbows with the assorted villainy of the globe, to include the South. So, one half the country will need to be completely depopulated ( no water infrastructure ) and the other half needs to kill off 90% of its surplus population to feed itself “organically” or with “permaculture”. Does that sound like a century of slow collapse to you? Now apply that to the rest of the world. We already discussed the Chinese issue with imported food.

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South America if left to its own devices should muddle through. One has to wonder what it is going to look like, as the White Latinos inheriting a centuries long feudal arrangement might have gotten exactly the system that will work best, or if the huge mega-cities full of peasants will prove uncontrollable. But that issue will be settled long before a century is up ( with the die-off needed to depopulate the cities of Useless Eaters ) as in the triage system that continent will receive near zero energy imports. But, NOT stair step as much as Purge.

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Africa stays Africa and just gets more of the same famine, genocide and war. No collapse there, because they are already there. So, in Africa, Greer is vindicated! The middle east reverts back to uninhabited desert, as before. Lots of Mohammedans have to be resettled six feet under to make way for that. One wonders, given Egyptian track records, if they will be smart enough to blow the Aswan dam and try to restart low tech agriculture. India? They are used to dying off, but what if China is eyeing them as a closer ag exporter? Would they trick the Paki's into attacking first?

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Oz, in theory, might just see a stair step collapse, if they can isolate and are not blindsided by the legions of Chinese fifth elements disguised as Politically Correct citizens. I'm not sure about their petroleum situation, though. If they must import too much, then they can't stop exporting or allowing the Zips to colonize them. They might have screwed the pooch for a one off suburban lifestyle financed with its independence. Who says Americans are the only dumb asses? We might resemble that remark, but also resent it :)

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Russia might not make out so badly. They've already practiced a pretty sharp collapse and if the rest of the globe collapses fast enough they will have enough resources left to manage to hang on limping along for quite some time. But Russia is no case study. What Greer or even Orlov might be missing it that as bad of a collapse as Russia experienced, it was saved for the simple fact that the US needed to use it as a gas station. Hence, some collapse was averted on purpose, with outside intervention ( no, I don't think it was to keep the nuclear weapons safe. It was to keep our new Color Revolutioned resource depot safe ).

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Without that intervention, would they have gone down to pre-WWII Chinese Warlord levels? If so, that doesn't seen like a hundred year long stair step collapse to me. Remember, war and disease never cause a collapse. Food supply implosion causes a collapse, and then war and disease finishes things off. If the Soviets went down to a decentralized Africanized level, and the US kept factions fighting to make a clear path for a resource grab, our outcome would have stayed the same but theirs would have been more of a faster collapse.

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So, Greer's Thesis holds for Africa, Oz and Russia. Probably, maybe. The rest of the planet will see a faster collapse due to global transportation ending, oil exports ending and global financial systems the first to fall. Now, apologies to Dingo Down Under, but do 99 out of a 100 of us give a crap about the Stair Step Collapse locations, when we are busy with a fast collapse? Hell, no. Careful asking a tree hugger for collapse advice, is all I'm saying.

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