DEEP PLANNING II*
note: this might be a concern with Tattler reusable lids:
"another Master Canner I know – oxygen retained in the headspace.
Because the lid is largely inflexible, and the final seal comes after the processing as a result of tightening the band, it's tough to guarantee that all oxygen has been flushed out of the headspace. This is guaranteed with the metal lids, as the vacuum itself is what creates the seal."
From this website:
Looking at history through Realpolitik, Americans have been real dinguses. But that was okay, since we were the invading victorious tribe. Yet that changed in the last decade and it is important to recognize that change. The jingoistic flag waving, the disapproval over kneeling during the national anthem, the inability to see our political influence completely waning, the concern over two political parties rather than seeing their complete similarities, all that is part of the denial process. The myth is that we still matter, that we are still THE superpower, is pathetic and sad. The US never directly challenged Britain when she was the imperial superpower of the day, but waited until she was vulnerable and asked for unconditional surrender and got it.
You think WE are safe just because no one directly challenges us? History is more than just a failing grade for you decades ago in public school. We have already lost global hegemony and don’t even realize it. We went to war in Iraq to protect the PetroDollar standard. Remember that one? We print Treasury Bonds, debt, and other countries buy them to have an instrument to buy oil because for forty years the Saudi’s, being our bitches and head of OPEC, have insisted oil be bought in dollars. Iraq threatened to sell oil for Euro’s and we soiled our drawers. That would threaten the PetroDollar!
So, Shrub, being as dumb as a box of rocks, did as he was told and acted like there were Weapons Of Mass Destruction over there-and the worlds leading holder of an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction can’t have any competition-and he probably wasn’t even acting. Bush Sr. was the last intelligent-even if evil-president and since then idiots have been meat puppets on display. Clinton did as Hilary told him, Bush was an idiot and Obammy English As A Second Language King Kenyan barely took time out from golf to hastily read his prepared lines. And Trump, well, who loses money on a casino?
When Libya threatened to ask for gold for oil, boom, regime change. He was a terrorist funder rather than a communist sympathizer, so it was a different script but the same actors. And thus ended our successful reign. From then on, we couldn’t overthrow anyone. We got our allies the Saudi’s to invade to their south, with hundreds of billions if not trillions in high tech weapons and they were as effectual as a liberal at target practice. We tried to control Syria and Turkey and many others and, sadly, we are way past Peak Overthrow. Seeing this obvious lack of military effectiveness, one country after another has dropped the PetroDollar, without military threat from our empire. Now, this is where the American Denier Movement picked up high gear.
Fracking Fags started piling out of the woodwork. You do all understand what fracking did, correct? It got the tight oil from fields already pumped conventionally. It didn’t find new oil, it just got what the big straw hadn’t sucked up. And it wasn’t cheap. And the wells usually stopped producing after four years ( as opposed to forty with conventional pumping ). To repeat a delightful turn of phrase I wish I had invented but rather shamelessly stole, we were licking the barroom rug of spilt beer after closing hours. Then, long after our military couldn’t do much more than learn equality and gender sensitivity ( no reflection on the lower ranks-just the leadership ), the public showed absolutely no shame in blindly worshiping their perceived abilities.
Other forms of denial are equally as creative and loud. Retail collapse is caused by Amazon. The Dollar is a safe harbor. Our defeated occupied allies are against our enemies. But all that is a side note. You must merely keep one thing in mind. We export inflation and import oil. If that stops, we stop. Alaska, the Gulf Of Mexico and the Lower 48 all produce five million barrels per day, give or take. Fracking, at most, doubles that. We use 18 million a day. Simple math says we need almost half the oil we use to come from other countries. If those countries don’t trade oil for debt, how do we get the oil we need?
All those gas lines and alternate fill up days and quadrupling prices in the Oil Shocks of the 70’s? We were the worlds leading producer in oil. Our imports cut off were about four percent of oil use. FOUR. Not forty as is likely to happen. Now please calculate the odds of there being gasoline to operate your motor vehicle at this time. What you are doing now is logical and excusable. I wouldn’t live in the ghetto or next to the Mosque, just to save money. I don’t blame you. But it isn’t like you don’t have any warning that even without Peak Oil, the end of our militaries ability to force our colonies to give us free oil is reason enough to figure out a way to reduce our oil dependencies.
Now, to be frank, NOT owning a car is really not much protection. The oil is needed at the farm and on the interstate and in the processing and storage facilities. All of us could give up our cars and we would still be screwed. The only thing NOT owning a car does is finance your preps. But if you do own a car, make sure its lack of fuel isn’t going to be a life threatening event. As long as you can still Deep Larder while still making a car payment, all well and good. But be sure it is only a convenience.
Think about this. Both Trump and Hillary work for the elites. They are bit players both, bought and paid for. Yet the elites ability to control things is so precarious they can’t keep the kabuki theatre of Elections Are Real functioning properly. Instead, a year later, we still risk nuclear war since Hilary insists the Russians stole the election from her. Crazy as a brick crap house rat bitch. What makes you think our rulers will have the ability to allocate logistics to keep everyone fed, when only half the oil is available?
Another question. If the economy gets bad enough and the ability to finance fracking is endangered, what will we do if we suddenly lose over a quarter of our oil? Think about it.
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* By the by, all my writing is copyrighted. For the obtuse out there
What will we do , if we were to lose a quarter of our oil supply ?ReplyDelete
Everything gets expensive fast...then crashes.
Mucho rapids before the waterfall.
We have one necessary mini truck for her work transport. A 2000 Toyota Tacoma. Paid for of course as it was purchased new. Still has lots of life in it.
After the bike accident, I really wasn't inclined to ride motorcycles anymore lol. Reinvested the cash they gave me on the totalled bike. Found and purchased a 92 Toyota mini truck. Had been owned by Gramma and grampa as a tow behind rig for their motorhome. Garaged when not used too.
Grandson inherited at 76k on the speedo... proceeded to paint the whole thing in rattle can flat black...bought new wheels and tires and battery. Then decided it wasn't big enough to tow the boat he wanted...
I bought it off Craigslist from the grandkid for $2500, new wheels and tires, battery and butt ugly flat black over nice factory paint.
It was my physical therapy first project, sitting and wet sanding all that flat black ! Took me about three weeks too.
Had it sprayed back to factory original for $300...
Total into the project , under $3K. Been offered six already. LOL I've had it three years now and haven't driven two thousand miles.
It just sits and waits to pull that bug out trailer...
All part of that plan deep stuff...yah know ?
Important thing is that it's all paid for and just part of the stash.
Really shouldn't have a second mini truck, but two is one...
Hers is electronic controls on the engine tho and mine has all simple controls with a points distributor. Two might be one...post EMP
Along the thoughts of Deep Planning, I just watched some video that Green Mountain survival guy linked on his blog. The big take away from watching an English farm try to work like it was 400 years ago is that you need 3000 to 4000 calories a day to farm. Second is, it is a TON of work, like 18 hours a day to grow, harvest, prepare and cook in a self sufficient manner (without an oil driven economy) . I had already observed this from spending time in the jungle of Central America. The locals spend their life growing, harvesting and cooking food..that's about all they do. you don't need a hobby when your life depends on what you are growing and harvesting. Your hobby is trying to survive. Almost no one PROBABLY was enough to get through the lean years and the ones that have 1 year of supplies and sealed buckets of veggie seeds(yuppie Scum) will die the second winter because gardens and hogs and chickens don't just automatically thrive. I'll stop on that positive note haha.ReplyDelete
p.s Wheat is STILL cheap...don't know how long this grain bear market will last.
The videos are YouTube "Tales From The Green Valley". I have a note on them and plan on watching soonest. Be a break from idiot prepper vids.Delete
"57% of all oil consumed in the U.S. is imported.
Transportation fuel consumption accounts for over 70 percent of total U.S. oil consumption, and more than 65 percent of that amount is for personal vehicles."
THIS means, that as soon as more nations (see saudi arabia, kuwait, etc) begin to refuse to sell to the US in US debt instruments/dollars or charge a premium for those, the RATIONAL thing for the US to do would be to severely restrict the use of private vehicles somehow. Our internal oil production will go first to military/law enforcement, then to food and resource production and distribution. Going to the corner store will be on foot or via bike, etc. It is likely that public transportation will be the only motor vehicle transport allowed in the cities, with more limited routes and times- and private motor vehicle use will be severely restricted (hopefully by cost not edict but both are probable). Deliveries (i.e. Amazon orders) will be made only to central depots. Power issues will become more common. This will be the situation we will find ourselves in within less than 10 years almost certainly, and likely within 5 years. And only if some other more major black swan doesn't hit.
Many places will let maintenance slide even further and repairs from natural disasters, etc, will become much less in depth likely more a matter of clearing only the major roads and keeping essential major industries of effected areas going - if the area is lucky.
If you read Kunstler, and subtract his sunny optimism, you'll get a good picture of the trap of suburbia without personal transportation. I hated cars already but he solidified the issues well. It is easy to see the necessary work-arounds w/o cars, but I'm sure the govt. will completely screw it up. They NEVER follow the logical course. They will make the Soviets look efficient and organized.Delete
Yep, like I said "rational" The commanders/planners in charge of the military *might* be rational, but our congress critters and presidents haven't been even marginally rational IMHO in at least the past decade (Bush might have been sort of rational with his two remote off grid ranches). More than likely the people in charge will do things that will make the coming situation worse, possibly MUCH worse.Delete
>>What makes you think our rulers will have the ability to allocate logistics to keep everyone fed, when only half the oil is available?ReplyDelete
A super interesting question is how are they going to maintain their power in this scenario.
I bet on small electronics (monitoring your smartphone) and electrical drones.
It made no sense for Amazon to develop "delivery drones" (well perhaps for very niche industry needs) but it does make sense in an urban peackeeping/warfare context. Makes exactly the same sense then than Google taking pictures of every house in the USa and snooping on its WiFi.
It is good to be extra paranoid-it is usually justified. However, what you describe is great under a dystopian future, not a civilization collapse one. The oil supply contracting so fast, nothing nationally will be implemented on a workable level. Or, if it is, not on a long enough term to matter. Hard to have Big Brother watching when the center cannot hold.Delete
I can see a bit of the worst of both - just like local cops now have military equipment they will likely end up with spying micro-drones and will pretend loyalty to some distant patriot themed federal government while really being able to do what ever they please one way or another, until they cant get the funds and supplies they need to maintain their local authority. Meanwhile there would be just enough power in the federal government to aid the local 'legal' structure against any real resistance to their corruption and warlordism.Delete
>> what you describe is great under a dystopian future, not a civilization collapse oneDelete
If there is still a government then there are still some technical capabilities left, and much fewer people to force into submission. Most "human ballast" (unemployavble people) will be killed in order to kick the can down the road one last time, and the collapse will kill some more people, but there might be enough technology left to police the central city at the heart of the empire (pretty much like Rome after its collapse, really).
Perhaps the size of that city would be linked to these capabilites, just like formerly large city shrunk to a small central place limited by the walls & garrisson it could still afford.
A complete collapse would be like you picture it, like Puerto Rico right now, but people would be left to their own devices.
That would be an interesting survivalist scenario. If the survivalist cannot escape the island, what should he do ?
Ave-I think an island is a real bad idea, the vibe I got when living in Hawaii. Well, then you have Columbus, pirates and sugar plantations as cautionary tales, also. And now PR.Delete
JJ-I don't see the feds helping out the locals, even to aid themselves. Too long of a history of the colonial treasure flowing one way.
On canning jars I use Weck a German brand, glass lids with reusable rubber seal.ReplyDelete
From what I could find out, jars are $6 each and rings are 60 cents each. Granted, most folks reuse the rings. Yet, I still don't see any cost advantage given Ball with one lid is $1, unless you are concerned with possible pollutants and the money isn't the issue.Delete
I bought in bulk directly from Weck website a few years back (the Tulip style jars), don't know pricing with shipping but it was reasonable. More than Ball type but much less than $6.Delete
Another food preserving related item that has paid off for me is fermenting crocks with water seal rim (I have a couple of Harsch brand). The water seal lets contents off-gas while fermenting without admitting other contaminants (organisms). Fermentation adds nutrition to simple ingredients as opposed to the canning process.
A regular open crock or other container can be used to ferment of course. Although a traditional American style crock of any size like granny (or probably great granny now) used to use are pretty pricey especially if seller considers them antiquey.
But for more reliable results,less chance of off tastes and less daily management of fermenting, the water rim rocks.
Thanks Jim. S in Fla.
I think going low tech, salting meat and fermenting everything else not dried is the way to go. Canning should probably be considered off-grid modern.Delete
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thanks for info.
drying allows transport in time of necessity.
daughter said to me, how many quarts of canned tomatoes can you carry on foot and for how long?
we want a dehydrator for those reasons.
food is much lighter, takes up much less space and is easily stored or transported.
harsch no longer in production. look for nik schmitt fermenting crocksDelete
Solarman is right. Farming is a full time job. That's why you had 12 kids. To help with all the work. I can maintain a diet equal to post apocalypse without petroleum but it's a full on seven day a week job.ReplyDelete
The problem is defending the farmstead against all comers. Not really sure it's possible without a lot of prep. And sooner or later other problems pop up like disease. Anti-biotics have a shelf life.
Living in the boonies is great for the immediate collapse, but, in the end everyone's chance of survival is zero. I prep because I refuse to go down without a fight.
Started watching the show. Really interesting, none of the "reality show" feel to it. Loved the origin of the term "upper crust". Yes, a full time job, but I got the feeling it is while time consuming not overly arduous physically. Yes, they had extra hands on the show, but if modern folk can adapt so quickly...Delete
One of the interesting bits is the possible role of cryptocurrencies, like Bitcoin. You might be familiar or not, but if you're trading in dollars to purchase some cryptos you'll almost always run across a situation where you're denied because you're in the USA or wherever.ReplyDelete
So, you buy some cryptos that you can buy, then trade those for what you want and there's no barrier anymore. The exchange has taken place outside of the national boundaries, has evaded the trade barriers.
You can easily see what might happen if international trade switched out from dollars to cryptos - suddenly every embargo is just so much hot air that can only be enforced by gunboats and air forces and armies.
That is both the collapse and the way out. Maybe. Currently the USA is not the best positioned for that scenario with thoughts of regulating. Russia OTOH has embraced them. China has banned them.
I look at these things, rightly or wrongly, as an Internet fly by night company that relies on a fragile Internet powered by a fragile power grid.Delete
This text sounds a lot like all the other "cryptocurrency shills" that are everywhere right now, from Zerohedge to The Saker.Delete
That anyone can vouch for this vaporware on a survivalist blog, especially in the light of what is happening to Puerto Rico, is beyond me.
I'd be amazed too, except just like I can't help but be paranoid, some folks, preppers or not, can't help being too optimistic. Refer to the tale of the frog and the scorpion.Delete
Eh, as long as the internet is up - even if only intermittently - Crypto currencies could have some value as a way to buy things outside easy government tracking online. But the farmer down the way nor the tax collector coming around are likely to accept a 'bitcoin'. So if you have enough funds AND want to buy something online that you don't want tracked in some database, crypto - currencies may have some value for a few preppers. But they probably should be on the list well after silver, which is well after food, water, medicines, and ammo. Unless you have spare power and internet access to 'mine' your own crypto currencies.Delete
Crypto currencies are great for the dystopia future, not for the collapse one.Delete
The "living in an urban/suburban place near the source of funding" problem is not even a "problem" most people can recognize right now. That's why it's so potentially deadly. Everything most people do locks them in-place. Debt, mostly.ReplyDelete
The solution is the same ones as always: junk land, even if the rapid job/apt. exit plan is not applied. If a place to park the cargo-exfiltration truck can be found for cheap nearby, all the better. Use the truck to drive practice escape routes on the way to dig. Do upgrades to the junk land as you have extra funds to do(after owned with Title) that don't trigger permits or increased taxes. I've always considered pre-building projects like drainage and cisterns (which can become basements and foundations that get tarped then buried with a load of gravel (also useful on the property later). Hexayurt plywood buildings become luxurious (if small at 165 square feet)clean warm spaces when popped-up on a pre-poured concrete foundation that got placed as part of the "drainage" project pours. Conex boxes and hexayurt are some cheeep shelter for people and stuff.
I am a little concerned about being included in the "clean up" of the surplus eaters and unloved skilled peoples.
Cryptocurrencies for savings? No thanks. Probably a good idea to know about and to buy from Overstock.com as a test of functionality. PM's after the BTN basics are stocked. Paper money is still buying fuel, so "on with the show!" at the spectacular 3-ring Empire Circus.
Junk land is certainly not without problems, but a good problem to have, soon. And somewhat of a better solution than an expensive arsenal, within reason. ALL savings have potential problems, so investments first, always. Then you can afford to lose savings. Anything electronic-perishable. PM's, if outlawed, lose buying power if you must sell on black market. Cash can burn or be inflated. Whatever you are going to do, do it quickly, regardless.Delete
in 'ask jackie' or jackie's articles in backwoods home magazine, she writes that the reason so many failures with the metal lids is they must be kept in hotter water than the directions say. see her 'ask jackie' column in the new [and last print] issue just published.
i have tattlers but have yet to use them. keep hearing about problems. wouldn't use them for meat unless i hear better info.
Metal lids sound like an easier fix than Tattler-I'd be leery with meat also. Almost sounds like Tattler should be water bath rather than pressure can anyway.Delete
Mass Quantity of metal one-time canning lids, if found cheaply, will serve a person well. It takes 250 quarts of food per adult per year to survive a winter of poor hunting in a cold place. Having a thousand jars for a family of four is not excessive planning. A case of quarts is only 12 jars, so each person is 24 CASES, so a compact family supply of jars could easily be 100 cases of quarts and some quantity of little jars of condiments. More if you don't have a little refrigerator for leftovers and condiments.Delete
Widemouth half-pint is the most-perfect jar for packing solid meat/fish, but you will use TONS of caps and rings if you consider that a quart is 4 half-pints!
The cardboard cases that jars come in are a treasure. The jars fit perfectly and stack flat. Preserve these cartons! Put the children in charge of box preservation with glue and tape. Glued bottom flaps are super-sturdy when done with TiteBond outdoor acrylic wood glue, even if they get humidified in a damp dugout. Cardboard is an okay insulator for jarred food that blocks sunlight (kills vitamins!) and slows heat/cold cycling. Not as well as a custom cupboard with 2" of blue board foam, but almost free.
I miss the old cardboard inserts in between each jar. Might not be necessary, but they gave me extra piece of mind.Delete