tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post8285068918044250614..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: other ammo 1 of 2James M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-26677449050780219172018-04-09T14:15:45.645-07:002018-04-09T14:15:45.645-07:00Nugget team? I gotta hear this one.Nugget team? I gotta hear this one.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-67898424577515180012018-04-09T13:38:25.714-07:002018-04-09T13:38:25.714-07:00I enjoyed my $79 M91-30 and M44's. Cleaned the...I enjoyed my $79 M91-30 and M44's. Cleaned then, shot them (with cheap Bulgy ammo!), sold at a profit to the Nugget Team. They are not as safe to the user as a modern or Western rifle if a double-charged cartridge is fired. Meow! <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-44909574051208255062018-04-09T03:01:33.235-07:002018-04-09T03:01:33.235-07:00Anything helps GS. Your only real guarantee would ...Anything helps GS. Your only real guarantee would be vacuum packed though.<br />Climate controlled room being best.<br />For sure, if it is stored in ambient humidity here in Florida, it needs be in plastic containers. Trouble with them is that the o-ring is not a guarantee of a good seal. Perhaps use a bead of silicone sealant on the o-ring , for long term storage.<br />I use pvc pipe with glued on capsSpudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-77594356613194043302018-04-08T15:10:03.989-07:002018-04-08T15:10:03.989-07:00Back when the MN was way under $100, you could mak...Back when the MN was way under $100, you could make a case for them. Now, I wouldn't touch them with your junk. Loved the cat picture, I could totally visualize it.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-86705135560074289852018-04-08T12:19:37.390-07:002018-04-08T12:19:37.390-07:00Oh stop you're making me blush :)
https://func...Oh stop you're making me blush :)<br />https://funcatpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/kitty-you-are-so-beautiful.jpg<br /><br />I am fortunate that in general I bought rifles with a good bore or barrel. My plan 14 years ago was to buy old, cheap weapons but it turned out differently because I wanted to test the different platforms/calibers and then only buy the chosen combination in quantity & in poor shape.<br /><br />I just stuck with the "test" platforms which were meant to be of good resale value (CZ is the definition of "good resale value" because nobody resells them in the first place, but keeps them instead) (no I don't get paid by CZ, it's just that word of mouth and experience are the best seeling methods - I never saw an ad for CZ, for instance, but in Europe they are everywhere).<br /><br />I was only after some years of observing and listening (it takes a much greater effort to hear than to talk) that I understood that a poor weapon, as cheap as it might be, was not a good investment.<br /><br />To provide an illustration : A Mosin-Nagant in "very good condition" is 250 USD, a new Savage Axis is 330 USD. I might be lucky with the Mosin but probably will not, whereas the Axis will very probably be a superior shooter to the Mosin from the get-go.<br />BIC approach and all that :)Avehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508223217305671728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-2004468107198512942018-04-08T11:44:44.910-07:002018-04-08T11:44:44.910-07:00Stripper clipped rifles are the survivalists best ...Stripper clipped rifles are the survivalists best friend. I want to add "with bayonet", but I might get audience raspberried. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-50527091244363072252018-04-08T11:41:40.642-07:002018-04-08T11:41:40.642-07:00Acronyms!! Blech!Acronyms!! Blech!James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-39268136400384614032018-04-08T11:40:09.340-07:002018-04-08T11:40:09.340-07:00After being educated about the AR vs everything el...After being educated about the AR vs everything else barrel replacement, I've really started to take your "barrel IS the gun" saying very seriously. It makes perfect sense, and something I never thought of before.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-38602656306066083992018-04-08T10:56:47.801-07:002018-04-08T10:56:47.801-07:00>> Perhaps your area offers ammonia in very ...>> Perhaps your area offers ammonia in very concentrated doses, compared to the normal watered down US offering?<br /><br />Absolutely :)<br />I've used it to see if I could remove lead & general mess from an old barrel, I used the industrial-grade stuff.<br />That didn't remove anything.<br /><br />I ended up selling the rifle, the guy had a new barrel installed. This is why I always say : your rifle is its barrel. All the rest is used to insert a cartridge and extract its case, and aim.<br />You may encounter problems with other stuff, but they are fixable. Nothing fixes a rotten barrel, you just have to replace it.Avehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508223217305671728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-72333961722610487972018-04-08T10:52:43.060-07:002018-04-08T10:52:43.060-07:00If you shoot at soldiers in groups who are at all ...If you shoot at soldiers in groups who are at all proficient, they will hunt you down as a house-cleaning chore. Observe the soldiers with eyes and binoculars, report the observation in a SALUTE report to your local neighborhood protection team captain. It might be time to GTFO. <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-28155325175804723742018-04-08T10:44:37.053-07:002018-04-08T10:44:37.053-07:00Having a 100 rounds for the most-popular weapons s...Having a 100 rounds for the most-popular weapons sold in your area in the past 50 years would be a great thing, after your food/water/junkland situation, as well as a stash of a few months of working income (6 months of survival currency) are secured. The list is right from the early years of Rawles (before $9000 thermal scopes for each child became "mandatory") with the top3 being UncleSam's list of 5.56NATO/7.62NATO/9x19mm (with appropriate projectiles for your use, maybe not all FMJ). The next few will be slightly-older USGI, like .30-'06, but ComBloc weapons flooded the USA in the 1980's/1990's, so 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 are very-common. .300WinMag and .243 are common at sporting goods stores that carry hunting rifles. A box of .300Savage cartridges might be worth as much as a rifle (2 deer?) to someone with one and low-ammo. Pistols do not need many cartridges to be useful for a long time (pistol cartridges wear out from carrying and should be rotated into practice firing rounds), so a Nagant revolver with 4 boxes of ammo and accessories is as functional as a .38sp or .38Super, a popular Mexican revolver, as long as the supplies hold out. I appreciate vintage pistols like Tokarev and their SMG brothers for how cheap the ammo once was. <br /><br />My strategy is to stock deep ammo for the big 3 (+ .22lr), and keep ammo for others as I find it at estate sales. There is an amazing amount of hunting rifle ammo out there in quantity of 12-18 cartridges partial-box. The lithographed boxes are valuable-collectable, and the ammo is no-value. <br /><br />Don't forget magazines. Many newer pistols are no-shot weapons without a magazine inserted (Dremel, or upgrade that BS away!). Semi-auto rifles will malfunction without good magazines (clunky single-shot). AR-magazines were designed to be semi-disposable (aluminum feed lip fatigue) but the best plastic and good stainless steel mags last a long time. Attached indestructable magazine is one reason I love SKS. <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-18518822806183024212018-04-08T10:32:38.250-07:002018-04-08T10:32:38.250-07:009:37- I'm by no means the final authority, but...9:37- I'm by no means the final authority, but it was my understanding that the cheap shells have steel bases. From the reports of others, so I might stand corrected.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-82514735755086294842018-04-08T10:31:05.491-07:002018-04-08T10:31:05.491-07:00Perhaps your area offers ammonia in very concentra...Perhaps your area offers ammonia in very concentrated doses, compared to the normal watered down US offering?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-72725065693338396142018-04-08T09:43:26.875-07:002018-04-08T09:43:26.875-07:00Ammonia will destroy the blueing though. I learned...Ammonia will destroy the blueing though. I learned this the hard way, and never touched the stuff ever since.Avehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508223217305671728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-73837362205004217232018-04-08T09:37:49.412-07:002018-04-08T09:37:49.412-07:008:16 here. I meant to start off by quoting your qu...8:16 here. I meant to start off by quoting your question on the reliability of shotshells found in the wild, so I hope that I didn’t cause anyone any confusion.<br /><br /><br />“If not the brass case, at least brass bases”<br /><br /><br />You mean that they sell shotshells without brass bases now? I guess it’s been a while since I’ve bought shotshells. I still have several Winchester AAA hulls, as well as many others. I also have a box of Walmart shotshells never opened (8 boxes) at the old school pre-ammo hike prices. Also still have my Mec 600 JR reloader. Don’t have enough powder, primer, and BB’s though. I guess that’s a hint to myself. I don’t want to wind up like the survivalist with his grand total of 2 shotshells :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-82302345085346857262018-04-08T09:15:30.133-07:002018-04-08T09:15:30.133-07:00If not the brass case, at least brass bases. Then...If not the brass case, at least brass bases. Then you can make your own paper cases. And make sure to have ammonia stocked for cleaning the gun after shooting BP. Soap and water work, but ammonia is better. Swab all parts, then clean as usual. Don't wait on the swabbing part. Best to have a small container of ammonia with you in the field.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-61387950529961048992018-04-08T08:49:33.065-07:002018-04-08T08:49:33.065-07:00Thanks Spud, does it matter that the ammo boxes my...Thanks Spud, does it matter that the ammo boxes my ammo is in are the OD green plastic ones with O rings in the lid? I'm gonna order some desicants anyway.ghostsnipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-5652367005219489322018-04-08T08:16:46.082-07:002018-04-08T08:16:46.082-07:00If you were to find them outside they would be que...If you were to find them outside they would be questionable. But a squeeze test should confirm the elasticity (compare them to some of your own that have not been exposed to UV). If they seem really rigid, or worst yet, crumble on you like they did on Mad Max, better then, then after being reloaded, and needing them. <br /><br />I do believe that there is still one manufacturer that produces the paper hulls. Believe it or not, these are actually superior to plastic when it comes to loading blackpowder (blackpowder eats some ferocious holes in plastic) but as would be expected, have short lives regardless.<br /> <br />For the post apocalypse warrior that loves his shotgun, and plans on using it as a main weapon, I’d recommend getting at least a few of the brass shells linked below. <br /><br />https://www.cabelas.com/product/MagTech-Shotshell-Brass/739893.uts?slotId=0Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-11787350117165081662018-04-08T08:10:31.951-07:002018-04-08T08:10:31.951-07:00Damn, now I', all depressed. Thanks, buddy. :...Damn, now I', all depressed. Thanks, buddy. :)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-38047295069180480812018-04-08T07:57:56.687-07:002018-04-08T07:57:56.687-07:00It is humidity which is the enemy here. Dissimilar...It is humidity which is the enemy here. Dissimilar materials dissapate heat at different rates, as a consequence condensation occurs on the denser of the two. By all means the ammo must be stored in a vacuum, with desicant added before sucking the air out. If the container is not air Tite , then moisture will always continue to migrate. Because the powder is very dry, osmosis will suck that moisture into the ammo until saturated. This is true in the desert or jungle. The only difference is the rate of destruction. Seal it double then forget itSpudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-62771362602479753642018-04-08T07:46:41.674-07:002018-04-08T07:46:41.674-07:00Yes the number designation is actual thickness in ...Yes the number designation is actual thickness in mmSpudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-79811393063874014052018-04-08T06:33:47.245-07:002018-04-08T06:33:47.245-07:00It sounds dry enough. I have close to zero proble...It sounds dry enough. I have close to zero problems year after year here in the desert. Absorbants can't hurt, but I wouldn't think its a issue in general. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-33263744830783952122018-04-08T06:30:55.736-07:002018-04-08T06:30:55.736-07:00Right, better than harsh words.Right, better than harsh words.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-14785869077451861032018-04-08T04:21:21.048-07:002018-04-08T04:21:21.048-07:00Walking the woods behind our house I have found em...Walking the woods behind our house I have found empty shot shells made of plastic. The red ones have faded to pink/white and feel brittle. They cracked when I squeezed them. The green ones were less so. Cure: don't let the UV get to them.<br /><br />Anon at 3:58 got me thinking. My rubbermaids aren't air tight. I wonder if I put a 1lb bag of rice in each bin after putting a small knife slit in the side of each bag would absorb any moisture? Our crawl is completely enclosed, vents shut and the dirt floor is dessert dry to the point of dust. I think the ammo is safe but it'd be a bitch to find out it's not after 5 years. There are 4 bins down there right now and they are at least 100 lbs each and not easy to move around. Maybe I should have gotten the ones with wheels.ghostsnipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-81787965095981890012018-04-07T19:39:26.695-07:002018-04-07T19:39:26.695-07:00That's the book. Thanks for looking it up.That's the book. Thanks for looking it up.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.com