tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post5166037792525724217..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: steel casesJames M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-34442135129574003622016-12-01T05:31:21.084-08:002016-12-01T05:31:21.084-08:00Exactly. Where do you find a "few adequate m...Exactly. Where do you find a "few adequate men" even? James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-59957245040096019462016-12-01T05:29:26.259-08:002016-12-01T05:29:26.259-08:00I don't think it is just the Mini-14. AR'...I don't think it is just the Mini-14. AR's can only eat steel with extreme wet lube. Ah, the trials and tribulations of getting affordable ammo.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-63355624866776056132016-12-01T05:27:39.856-08:002016-12-01T05:27:39.856-08:00Yes, I'm beginning to see the error in my ways...Yes, I'm beginning to see the error in my ways. Sometimes-although VERY rarely-you can be too paranoid.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-52653935681305539222016-12-01T05:08:49.431-08:002016-12-01T05:08:49.431-08:00Oh, I knew you were older-it just makes me feel be...Oh, I knew you were older-it just makes me feel better about all my aches and pains to point it out how others are worse :)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-23055442892000513032016-12-01T03:21:49.701-08:002016-12-01T03:21:49.701-08:00Yup just turned 63 this week....thought you knew t...Yup just turned 63 this week....thought you knew that I was a bit older bro....<br />Standard 11B ground pounders had no choice of weapon, they all got the plastic POS.<br />We in the ASA doing LRRP's had a choice. The whole idea with us wasn't to be seen, so engaging in fire fights without the chance of support just was not done. Didn't call us the Sneaky Snakes fer nothing.Spudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-90490896455333236952016-11-30T18:54:15.219-08:002016-11-30T18:54:15.219-08:00Many semi autos with traditionally rifled barrels ...Many semi autos with traditionally rifled barrels will digest lead bullets just fine. The caveat may have come from the GLOCK pistols whose polygonal rifling causes problems with non-jacketed bullets. From the GLOCK website: "Can I use lead bullets?<br />No, we recommend the use of jacketed ammunition only." (Link: https://us.glock.com/customer-service/faq)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-54367455198107021102016-11-30T17:43:44.448-08:002016-11-30T17:43:44.448-08:00Lord Bison,
I reloaded .38 specials with bullseye ...Lord Bison,<br />I reloaded .38 specials with bullseye powder and 158 grain SWC back in the 1970's. last year I finished shooting them. I had no misfires. they were stored in .30 ammo cansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-48427235550761186632016-11-30T16:42:27.404-08:002016-11-30T16:42:27.404-08:00Back in the mid 90's when Australians could ow...Back in the mid 90's when Australians could own semi-auto's I had a mini 14. <br /><br />Using Norinco (chinese) rounds would see the bolt cease up as brass (?) would fly back into the bolt and quickly jam it up (maybe within 20 rounds from memory)<br /><br /><br /><br />Dingonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-18754113185229735922016-11-30T15:41:38.667-08:002016-11-30T15:41:38.667-08:00If a person wanted a semi-auto with a lot of tried...If a person wanted a semi-auto with a lot of tried-goodness, the Designated Marksman rifle based on old M-14's is darn good, but not cheap when you build it like Uncle does. Or, you could get a squad of strong young men and teach them how to accurately fire an Enfield (that is "theirs" as long as they play along). Same cost or less, betcha. But where do you find "a few good men"? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-58967163126770404532016-11-30T09:02:08.442-08:002016-11-30T09:02:08.442-08:00I was 159 lbs in basic and the final road march lo...I was 159 lbs in basic and the final road march load was near half my body weight. That was the only time the M16 was a blessing. And, damn, you're old :)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-33346385969011222232016-11-30T08:59:41.724-08:002016-11-30T08:59:41.724-08:00Okay, your points are taken-stop worrying about th...Okay, your points are taken-stop worrying about this non-issue. I really am trying to work on stressing over less-I have enough stomach issues ( which I know are psychosymatic-sp? ). James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-16355450658516707732016-11-30T08:04:38.268-08:002016-11-30T08:04:38.268-08:00Same with me Jim. By the time I went through basic...Same with me Jim. By the time I went through basic and later ranger stuff....when I got to the jungle and was offered the choice of M16 or the M14 , there was no question in my mind and I went with the heavy but dependable beast of the two. The 14 sucked on auto but definitely kept their heads down and on semi mode was a damn fine brush cutting shooter.<br />Course back then I was 225 lbs of lean mean and ten or fifteen pounds of load out difference didn't mean much for the fire power difference.Spudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-17549241700181921442016-11-30T08:00:09.483-08:002016-11-30T08:00:09.483-08:00The stuff that I had wasn't nail polish James,...The stuff that I had wasn't nail polish James, and was meant for sealing cartridges. But it essentially looked just like a vial of nail polish, so my guess would be that it was simply a re-marketing gimmick with a label swap. <br /><br />As far as your concern for the long term, it should put your mind at ease to know that I've never had a handloaded cartridge fail at even decades old. But as with yourself, I'm in the dry west. Don't leave it outside or in your leaky $69.95 plastic Walmart garden shed and you'll be fine. Ours in stored in an uninsulated shop. Now if you lived east of the Mississippi in a humid climate, I'd take extra precautions. But for you and I, it is of little concern.<br /><br />Wayne <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-88061681538316748292016-11-30T07:14:28.083-08:002016-11-30T07:14:28.083-08:00The AK's have a lot going for them, but they a...The AK's have a lot going for them, but they are meant to spray and pray. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-55555000663311339252016-11-30T07:11:00.430-08:002016-11-30T07:11:00.430-08:00I've heard of the nail polish trick but I am o...I've heard of the nail polish trick but I am of the mind that factory, if given the preference, is superior in moisture proofing. For long term storage. I don't think short term matters at all, even in inclement weather. It is just increasing your odds. Yes, reloading components are also sealed. I'm merely thinking that plastic doesn't keep out the moisture as well, after, say, ten years.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-57920268081397841982016-11-30T07:06:35.439-08:002016-11-30T07:06:35.439-08:00I'm glad I did this article and got the feedba...I'm glad I did this article and got the feedback. I'm even more disinclined towards the steel cases now.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-52010635761512881312016-11-30T07:03:39.549-08:002016-11-30T07:03:39.549-08:00I had a solid jam in an M16 that took two instruct...I had a solid jam in an M16 that took two instructors, a broken tree branch and five minutes to clear. Guess how much I wanted my very own after that.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-87382670104855949432016-11-29T23:36:59.164-08:002016-11-29T23:36:59.164-08:00If a person is feeding Uncle's poodle-shooter,...If a person is feeding Uncle's poodle-shooter, now or soon is time to stock deep on magazines and ammo. Jim is correct on how fast a person can burn twelve 30-round magazines if behaving like a soldier with unlimited free ammo and more real-soon-on-a-truck. Folks are training using "enemy suppression by semi-directional wall-of-lead" (40 rounds per minute +, per rifle), which ONLY can work with 100x the supplies of your opponent, and maybe not then. Even "talking guns" is going to use 100 rounds per minute per team. What if each rifle has 10 rounds for the whole ambush? Different strategy, huh? It might be good to study how the VC, IRA, and Pashtun fight with stolen arms when not supported by a rich foreign nation-state. Hint: sneaky, with many operations aborted if it wasn't perfect. <br /><br />I had a solid jam (brass-cased NATO ammo) in an FAL that I cleared by grounding the butt and slamming my boot down on the side-handle. Cleared, visually-inspected bore, good. <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-35794389101624811462016-11-29T18:11:17.611-08:002016-11-29T18:11:17.611-08:00In general, steel case ammo should be used in comm...In general, steel case ammo should be used in commie guns, brass in American. The Enfield was designed for brass (I think). You may also have issues with metal fatigue on the extractor and firing pin, causing it to fail earlier than with brass cases and softer primers depending on how much use it had before you got it. Wolf performance is spotty. I've fired US brass cased .223 and gotten 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards, put the equivalent Wolf steel cased 55 grain round in and got 8" groups at 100 yards. Yuck! Other Wolf rifle stuff has been just fine, but I'm not interested in it anymore. Some of the Wolf pistol rounds have been noticeably less accurate.<br /><br />For firearms, any recent production Winchester, Browning, FN, or CZ (rifles and pistols only) as well as some other lesser known premium manufacturers, should be top quality. Generally Savage and Ruger are good and reliable with some exceptions. Mossberg and Remington (except the Police line) have been having lots of quality control issues.<br /><br />If you intend on reloading later, you should really get started now. Not that you need to load up a bunch, but you definitely should work up an accurate load that you can keep in reference for later quick duplication. Your homemade ammo can have just as long as a storage life if you use sealant on the primer pocket and neck.<br />Peace outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-7286012074020155752016-11-29T17:44:37.191-08:002016-11-29T17:44:37.191-08:00I'm not sure exactly what you mean here James,...I'm not sure exactly what you mean here James, but if what you're saying is that factory loads are better sealed from moisture, you can do the same to your own handloads. I tried to find the stuff that I had, but I couldn't. Basically it just looked like a small vial of acrylic finger nail polish, so you could probably save yourself some money and just get some of that, or pay extra and get the stuff in the link below.<br /><br />Roboco Laboratories Bullet and Primer Sealer<br /><br />http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/reloading/case-preparation|/pc/104792580/c/104761080/sc/549388080/roboco-laboratories-bullet-and-primer-sealer/1839032.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fcase-preparation%2F_%2FN-1114305%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_549388080#BVQAWidgetID <br /><br />Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07074851290743440661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-47702102413811349502016-11-29T17:42:57.880-08:002016-11-29T17:42:57.880-08:00Not sure about that one James. I was just assuming...Not sure about that one James. I was just assuming the no semi rule. Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07074851290743440661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-17782124367912817672016-11-29T17:06:42.797-08:002016-11-29T17:06:42.797-08:00Steel cased ammo is the best of a bad situation. T...Steel cased ammo is the best of a bad situation. The Russians had an abundance of steel, and not so much brass, so worked around their supplies. <br />I believe that the jacketed bullets from almost any gun to be superior, with less lead fouling. Most well made guns will outlive their owners, even with large ammo appetites. There is a range in Nevada with some Glock 17s with 300 THOUSAND rounds through them. Only had spring changes. Their rifles usually go 10-20000 rounds before they need barrel changes, fairly universally.<br />As a combat veteran, I went with a semiauto russian steelcase eater and stacked it as deep as my dollar allowed. NO Infantryman ever wished that he could shoot fewer rounds. And if my logistics fail then I am up $#!+creek paddling with my d!(k, and that is the least of my worries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-43538303151336385532016-11-29T16:00:34.255-08:002016-11-29T16:00:34.255-08:00Okay, now this is new info I can use! Being an ol...Okay, now this is new info I can use! Being an old surplus gun, the Enfield could have been much better built. OR, they should be babied more and in that case you wouldn't want undue stress on the pin and ejector. Thanks-I was hesitant on the steel and I might want to stay paranoid and go "worse case" and stick with copper.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-9568202574603467842016-11-29T15:57:21.843-08:002016-11-29T15:57:21.843-08:00I may be way off here, but I seem to recall the ja...I may be way off here, but I seem to recall the jacketed bullets being more necessary in semi's. But, yeh, if you need the jacketed I's say steel is cheaper. IF nothing else precludes using it. If so, they may be false economics.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-11032359733229193272016-11-29T15:51:41.686-08:002016-11-29T15:51:41.686-08:00Even with adequate time, the appeal of factory loa...Even with adequate time, the appeal of factory loads is the secure long term storage.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.com