tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post3243719744564528588..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: WNTBTTA 11James M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-75626418162410726832016-05-05T23:18:27.443-07:002016-05-05T23:18:27.443-07:00Vintage saw set should be found at estate sale bef...Vintage saw set should be found at estate sale before they throw it away as "strange tool" that looks like pliers. I have one from grandpa, and one found. Saws work MUCH better when set for the kind of wood to cut fast and not jam. <br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-76113554086822105672016-05-05T04:52:30.898-07:002016-05-05T04:52:30.898-07:00Sounds like I hope I never need copper pipe. Hey,...Sounds like I hope I never need copper pipe. Hey, one dud out of thirty on the list. Not too bad.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-62029349922764254992016-05-05T04:51:10.963-07:002016-05-05T04:51:10.963-07:00For the last, oh, four or five years, NOBODY in to...For the last, oh, four or five years, NOBODY in town sold non-ethanol. Finally a new station offers it. Regular gas is $2.35. Non-ethanol $2.65. That's a premium for the added BTU's, but well worth it.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-60510241082052236872016-05-05T04:48:55.980-07:002016-05-05T04:48:55.980-07:00Surplus energy is the military force multiplier. ...Surplus energy is the military force multiplier. Plan for that and everything else falls in place. Of course, the trick is WHAT surplus energy.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-54289421365073758472016-05-05T04:43:38.311-07:002016-05-05T04:43:38.311-07:00Robots are the wet dream of any capitalist. But h...Robots are the wet dream of any capitalist. But here is where we already are: Not enough jobs exist to keep enough money in circulation ( after the ruling class take their cut, not much remains )to keep the retail we have. If we automate further, severe cannibalization in that sector. Will it be a race to the bottom? You must invest in robots, which is gambling you can take your competitors customers to pay for that investment. Will businesses shoot themselves in the foot this way? Probably. Nobody looks to the future if it gives their competition a decisive edge ( has been that way all though our species evolution ). Really, we had better just count on no jobs, ever, real soon. The only thing saving us will be further banker troubles constricting loans-but if that happens it is all over anyway.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-39688367968801414612016-05-05T03:05:26.703-07:002016-05-05T03:05:26.703-07:00Soft copper, think LP gas installs and heating/coo...Soft copper, think LP gas installs and heating/cooling split units.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-76424017160555219742016-05-04T21:34:52.458-07:002016-05-04T21:34:52.458-07:00While it's hard to say for certain just how ra...While it's hard to say for certain just how rapid the collapse is going to be, I'd say that it's safe to say that we are in for some rather hard times, and soon, as within the next 5 years. I recall that Kurt Saxon spoke of his time on his Grandmother's (Or was it his Aunts?) farm during the great depression, and that it was a pretty comfortable time for his family. So many people at that time that lived on paid for homesteads actually fared pretty well compared to their city brethren. That's not going to be the case this time around. Gone is practically all self sufficiency, and replaced with government as the solution to one's problems, as was the case with many of the asshats that I used to work with.<br /><br />I also came across the link below, that explains how the already too few jobs that are out there, are soon going to become even fewer once robotic automation kicks in.<br /><br />Bill Gross: What to Do After the Robots Take Our Jobs<br /><br />http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/bill-gross-what-to-do-after-the-robots-take-our-jobs/ar-BBsDEXg?li=BBnbfcN&ocid=mailsignout<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-3993835764021548182016-05-04T21:00:54.127-07:002016-05-04T21:00:54.127-07:00I have about 200 feet of 3/4 & 1/2 copper pipe...I have about 200 feet of 3/4 & 1/2 copper pipe laying by the garage and several rolls of soft copper, it's all waiting for a use. <br /><br /><br />Anything can be heated to bend it. But tubing will kink if bent making it useless. To get around this you can fill it with sand and cap the ends. Then bend it and then empty the sand out. But you don’t really need to heat it to bend it, it bends easy enough with a bit of force.<br /><br />But considering the sharp bends a solar water heater would use (I have one I made) it would be hard to get the sand out, and some of the bends are going to stress the copper too much. Better to use soft copper or 90’s, L’s and T fittings on the harder copper. <br /><br /><br />Chuck FindlayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-83944207306714154022016-05-04T20:51:01.946-07:002016-05-04T20:51:01.946-07:00Ok I will point out the elephant in the room.
We ...Ok I will point out the elephant in the room.<br /><br />We all know how to survive a slow collapse, we have been in one since 1970-72. All things are available new or at flea markets/yard sales .Price's, taxes and LEO powers have increased as we get further into it. The homesteading and prepper movements are responses to a slow collapse.<br /><br /> A die off event is what we talk about as "The Apocalypse" this is when salvage is possible but there will always be area's with rule of law. Now that said flea markets will become the Wal-Mart of the time.<br /><br /> The best way to prosper is power be it solar, veggie diesel, hydro or horse, mule. One man can only do so much the one that lightens his load will be his best buddy.Gary in Bamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00095999376990912465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-4548000017467398592016-05-04T20:18:06.964-07:002016-05-04T20:18:06.964-07:00Run non ethanol gas in all your small engines. Tru...Run non ethanol gas in all your small engines. Trust me. Stops alot of problems.Nightshifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16463940857394060911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-36447970042164973712016-05-04T16:48:15.529-07:002016-05-04T16:48:15.529-07:00No you can't heat and bend, the outside wall w...No you can't heat and bend, the outside wall will collapse and inside walls will break. The walls need to stretch. An (electricians) conduit bender might work though. Conduit is aluminum, so I'm not sure if it will work on copper. What Chuck said is true. Pipe is hard, and not bendable like tubing. You can put the pipe in the bender, bend slightly, maybe 10 degrees, then move the bender about 8" and bend 10 degrees again, rinse, repeat, til you get the desired radius. Just don't go to far or the copper pipe wall will break, then you're done. A solder torch fixes all. Now, if you have say, 30 degree elbows and pipe cutters, you can go that route - sort of the stop sign effect. Just depends on what you're trying to do. Don't forget that flux and some emery cloth for prepping them joints.ghostsniperhttp://www.deadcenter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-65315708169296088622016-05-04T16:48:03.185-07:002016-05-04T16:48:03.185-07:00Ah, ethanol. 8% cut in power, for a higher price....Ah, ethanol. 8% cut in power, for a higher price. And dangerous to your engines, as a Hump You Very Much bonus.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-67822580366825351742016-05-04T16:38:37.333-07:002016-05-04T16:38:37.333-07:00Rotted fuel lines. We've all been there. 5 yea...Rotted fuel lines. We've all been there. 5 years ago I stumbled upon a new type of fuel line that is resistant to all the stuff they add to the fuel. I don't recall the name of the lines but they have a distictive look, a bright sort of fluorescent yellowish green. I put it on my machines as the old stuff fails and none of the yellow has failed yet. It's a little more expensive than the std black stuff. ghostsniperhttp://www.deadcenter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-42275812303249849652016-05-04T13:40:40.359-07:002016-05-04T13:40:40.359-07:00I'm sure you are right on the Worst Of Both Wo...I'm sure you are right on the Worst Of Both Worlds. This does cause me to lose some sleep, but I try to ignore it out of necessity. Last thing I need is a long civil war before the resources run out. I'm betting on a Normalacy Bias until suddenly the whole thing collapses. I'm not saying it is a sure bet, by any means. Hence, my reliance on the Kill As Many Before I Go Plan.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-44510903140304315852016-05-04T13:36:18.377-07:002016-05-04T13:36:18.377-07:00Well, crap, another tool to need!Well, crap, another tool to need!James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-49946266464800831552016-05-04T13:32:33.107-07:002016-05-04T13:32:33.107-07:00I agree that over reliance on one scenario is prob...I agree that over reliance on one scenario is problematic. I purposely ignore a too slow collapse in my prepping, doing away with alternate retirement or a small business. Not because I think that wise, but because I had to triage my miniscule budget. So I went worse case, but still trying to hedge my bets whenever possible. For instance, a very fast collapse means you don't need to own land. Yet I do. So, while I'm planning for fast AND slow, it can't be TOO slow or I am screwed. I grant you that. Prioritizing and minimal budget leave a lot out. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-14338222908536167462016-05-04T13:24:28.783-07:002016-05-04T13:24:28.783-07:00I meant cut back as in clearing trees further from...I meant cut back as in clearing trees further from the dwelling, using a porch to replace shade trees.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-10588987740419965942016-05-04T13:23:32.390-07:002016-05-04T13:23:32.390-07:00I can understand old age and using power tools to ...I can understand old age and using power tools to build against hard future work. Like a back-hoe to build underground to cut down on cutting. As for trees by the house, on the road...? I guess cut back on the one and don't worry about the other once cars aren't useable anymore???James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-69550534607833431682016-05-04T13:19:23.112-07:002016-05-04T13:19:23.112-07:00I've never worked with copper. Can you heat t...I've never worked with copper. Can you heat to bend? I only know enough to heat and dunk brass ammo cases to extend the neck life. That is the extent of my knowledge. You'd know far more, living the life.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-76598985763050847312016-05-04T13:16:49.919-07:002016-05-04T13:16:49.919-07:00Don't blame yourself- I try to keep everyone g...Don't blame yourself- I try to keep everyone guessing, somehow.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-77214988991312606122016-05-04T11:56:42.913-07:002016-05-04T11:56:42.913-07:00"...the Apocalypse Survivor credit card ( as ..."...the Apocalypse Survivor credit card ( as in, salvaging )."<br />You caught me off guard. i though you were going to say (as in, three oh three)<br />I guess i'm not right in the head...<br />-eviltwinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-64157478173926178552016-05-04T11:01:33.765-07:002016-05-04T11:01:33.765-07:00(Copper piping should be another suburbia salvage ...(Copper piping should be another suburbia salvage item you most likely will find without to much problem.)<br /><br /><br />Much harder then you think James, PVC and PEX are the norm and have been so for 20-years. <br /><br />And what copper pipe you do find in homes is somewhat hard to use for projects. It’s all plugged up inside, is also hard copper not the soft flexible kind that lends itself well to being bent into shapes for projects. And the hard copper needs, tubing cutters, solder, fittings and a torch to make it useful. <br /><br />Not nearly as easy as you think it would be, in fact it will be hard to find it in a useful condition. <br /><br />Over the last few years I have stocked a bit of copper tubing and I can tell you it’s not so easy to find. Buy it now if you think you are going to want it later. Or better yet live the lifestyle now .<br /><br />Living a normal life now and then planning to suddenly to become Grisly Adams post-SHTF is going to fail. <br /><br />As far as hand tools, better to get a basic set now. Shop garage sales and you can find them at low prices. <br /><br /><br />Chuck FindlayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-78056996901738108492016-05-04T08:51:01.056-07:002016-05-04T08:51:01.056-07:00Oh yes, the cursed chain saw. We had a little stor...Oh yes, the cursed chain saw. We had a little storm here and I needed to cut up some large limbs. Dragged out my up till now reliable 11 year old saw, started right up then promptly died. Investigation found ethanol rotted fuel lines. I have fixed it but if there had been a real grid down situation I'd be SOL. Wish I was young and strong and able to use my back instead of depending on power tools. Getting old sucks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-5019154772979632172016-05-04T08:44:54.020-07:002016-05-04T08:44:54.020-07:003 centuries or 3 years.
Prepare for the worst asp...3 centuries or 3 years. <br />Prepare for the worst aspects of both, and don't count on the good aspects of either.JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-45941497441054690882016-05-04T08:38:11.655-07:002016-05-04T08:38:11.655-07:00Of course this whole series presupposes a FAST die...Of course this whole series presupposes a FAST die off. Something on the order of no more than 5 years to <20% of current population and rule of law NOT continuing as is. Once the die off takes longer than 5 years, most things will be used up/destroyed/claimed by heirs or banks... And if the rule of law continues as is, you will only be able to trash pick/steal a little - and probably be able to afford less. <br />Counting on either type of collapse (fast or slow) instead of both can leave you lacking an essential for the other. <br />A slow collapse will allow for greater security as at least nominal rule of law will probably continue for most of that sort of decline. But resources of all sorts will be used up/claimed before you have any chance to claim it as salvage.<br />A fast collapse with die off, will allow for little if any security, but may leave many goods and resources for a scavenger to salvage.<br />My guess is we will get the worst of both worlds.<br />Slow enough everything you need gets claimed/used by others, fast enough their is no security or law and order. <br />So if you think you might NEED something in the coming decades, you should have it now. <br />If you are just hoping for trade goods to stockpile, assume that most things wont be worth enough to have made it worth while or that 'taxes' will eat any profit such goods could produce.<br />JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.com