tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post2729071804361071424..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: barter items 2 of 2James M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-91348342641497651672018-07-03T06:21:10.465-07:002018-07-03T06:21:10.465-07:00Even banged up aluminum pots from the thrift store...Even banged up aluminum pots from the thrift store are going to be priceless one of these daysJames M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-64816943739683703972018-07-03T03:43:59.615-07:002018-07-03T03:43:59.615-07:00"A aluminum canteen cup now costs twenty minu..."A aluminum canteen cup now costs twenty minutes of labor. How many generations will it last, and how many ceramic steins will it save you from buying?"<br /><br />Well said. Think of the effort and time it would take to create a watertight container you can heat water over a fire using natural products. A few spare stainless steel pots would be a wise investment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-10896231929703942752018-06-25T06:37:10.427-07:002018-06-25T06:37:10.427-07:00At our age, how many of us are fast on our feet? :...At our age, how many of us are fast on our feet? :)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-64324336824212739352018-06-25T00:37:08.230-07:002018-06-25T00:37:08.230-07:00The trade paradigm will really self evolve outside...The trade paradigm will really self evolve outside of what you now know as being routine. Post apocalypse, there will be so many evolving changing dynamics to what minions used to take for granted that they, unless fast on their feet, their heads will be spinning like a exorcist doll. It will really be a (dangerous/different/curious) set of circumstances. "Hop-sing" the merchant will extend credit for your today wants, pending your season productions, etc. Be the hermit with gypsy bazaar skill set. Just saying. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-38825213847152106902018-06-24T18:46:39.722-07:002018-06-24T18:46:39.722-07:00Don't place too much reliance on the historica...Don't place too much reliance on the historical price ratio, because of the industrial destruction of silver as discussed. If that is correct, that we have less silver than gold, silver will be un-historically far higher value. Even if that is incorrect, stacking silver now is dirt cheap and you can't go wrong. Once the derivative manipulation of the metals breaks, both should shoot up. Obviously, stack AFTER wheat and ammo. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-34763263889867655112018-06-24T17:36:44.157-07:002018-06-24T17:36:44.157-07:00Current Industrial Age mining using massive amount...Current Industrial Age mining using massive amounts of petroleum energy is definitely the number one reason silver is so cheap today.<br />I have seen calculations that the average wage for one day of a man's hard labor (sunup to sundown) was equivalent to 1/10th of an ounce of silver. This supposedly stayed fairly consistent from Roman times (the Denarious coin was about 1/10th ounce of silver) to the 1800's.<br />Also the gold to silver price ratio was something like 1 to 10 for much of history. Currently it is something like 1 to 62.<br /><br />I like your advice of not trading irreplaceable industrial age products for organic commodities that can be produced in a low energy world. That is a good decision making template for the future.<br />SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-46696405732691416352018-06-24T10:31:54.616-07:002018-06-24T10:31:54.616-07:00To be clear, we are talking about sustainable for ...To be clear, we are talking about sustainable for non-sustainable items, yes? Plus, if you trade a piece of crap that breaks, it is your fault. If the slave, bride or horse later gets sick, it is their fault. No diplomatic blowback. I guess I should have covered that aspect. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-46772105430644458552018-06-24T10:05:26.951-07:002018-06-24T10:05:26.951-07:00External tribal trading can be a purpose and means...External tribal trading can be a purpose and means to an end. Considerations should be made for aquiring highly necessary (not desirable/luxury/nice to haves) items such as medicines, batteries, tool replacements, etc.etc. this will allow your emissaries to size up adjoining tribes,(show your strength as too tough of a nut to crack towards them) make alliances, open possible trade/commerce corridors outside of your barren wasteland choice of a squat spot. Gathering information/news/intelligence outside your area, etc. And as an example from Jim a way to get rid of by trading off those dipshit/nonhacking tribe members by expulsion as slaves or brides. Problem solved. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-13727259324475308772018-06-24T08:35:42.663-07:002018-06-24T08:35:42.663-07:00Except by the time warfare dies down and power mon...Except by the time warfare dies down and power monopolies are reestablished, the drugs are probably outdated. Something to keep in mind. Otherwise, this is a tribe that won't survive. Tribal loyalty cannot be conditional. You either do what is good for the tribe first or it doesn't work.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-73485305000569394762018-06-24T08:23:24.843-07:002018-06-24T08:23:24.843-07:00Trading with the tribe is fine. It tends to be alm...Trading with the tribe is fine. It tends to be almost communistic. If your brother asks for 5 bucks, you are likely to give it to him, but if someone on the street does the same you take offense.<br /><br />Some things you are going to have trade for outside the tribe. A popular example is if one of yours gets sick and needs medicine.This probably would break your rule of trading industrial goods unless you manage to secure a CVS before it gets ransacked.Wrenchr2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970779022776650104noreply@blogger.com