tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post2280980747281568188..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: wheat flour 2James M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-56583431376609097402019-04-24T07:47:21.133-07:002019-04-24T07:47:21.133-07:00Nicks, would you post recipe details about your Es...Nicks, would you post recipe details about your Essene bread, thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-82954065237645892142019-04-24T06:36:55.355-07:002019-04-24T06:36:55.355-07:00I've seen that myself. Not sure if it is a th...I've seen that myself. Not sure if it is a thing or if it is on par with "free energy from the air, 1 million MPG carburetor" kind of scam. Let me know. I'll make a list of those I'd like to slow cook internally. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-8395286415903857102019-04-23T18:09:17.150-07:002019-04-23T18:09:17.150-07:00I watched a YouTube Video or read that you can bui...I watched a YouTube Video or read that you can build a microwave gun to aim at your neighbors out of old microwave ovens. I'll have to look for it againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-76166971743745365592019-04-22T16:10:36.853-07:002019-04-22T16:10:36.853-07:00gs, "4 or 5 of the 6 steel walls you need&quo...gs, "4 or 5 of the 6 steel walls you need" And one of them is a latching door with a window. I'm spoiled, I like being able to look into the oven.daniel_dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399665251275194585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-46647813071218154272019-04-22T15:06:37.279-07:002019-04-22T15:06:37.279-07:00Thugs, bullies and thieves don't have to be sm...Thugs, bullies and thieves don't have to be smart. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-22565338404493279312019-04-22T12:23:03.417-07:002019-04-22T12:23:03.417-07:00Got an old microwave?
There's 4 or 5 of the 6 ...Got an old microwave?<br />There's 4 or 5 of the 6 steel walls you need. Lot's of holes though, so fill em up with steel pop rivets. Get the gun and rivets at Horror Fright, cheap. Grab another junk micro and there goes walls 5 and 6. BTW, if you can find a junk micro with a working transformer you can make a welder and fore go the rivets. Cut patches out of the micro and weld them over the holes. A trip to the dump reveals plenty of micros for the taking. If you got the time and ability you can make it double wall with heat resistant insulation between. Finaggle a rotisserie rack and rotate it over a wood fire. While running that handle sing, "Red wheat roasting on an open fire.....", just like Johnnie the turd burglar. ghostsnipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-56383812198854637702019-04-22T12:06:07.230-07:002019-04-22T12:06:07.230-07:00Back in 73 when my friend and I were 18 and were s...Back in 73 when my friend and I were 18 and were shooting .22 pistols we would buy ammo but only if it was for a rifle. If it was for a pistol you had to be 21. The gov't sure is stupid isn't it?ghostsnipernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-132989576896301112019-04-22T10:07:42.816-07:002019-04-22T10:07:42.816-07:00Ah! Thank you. Now it all makes sense. I tried m...Ah! Thank you. Now it all makes sense. I tried more than once and it was a friggin disaster. Turning golden wheat into turd tasting...something. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-62931518900847998142019-04-22T09:48:32.671-07:002019-04-22T09:48:32.671-07:00Seitan - meat substitute made with wheat gluten.Seitan - meat substitute made with wheat gluten.Nicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-35831579325655149242019-04-22T06:40:39.298-07:002019-04-22T06:40:39.298-07:00Yeah, I'm an idiot. Makes sense. I'd fee...Yeah, I'm an idiot. Makes sense. I'd feel bad, but it happens so often...:)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-88238387468569368432019-04-22T06:39:08.654-07:002019-04-22T06:39:08.654-07:00I wish I could talk myself into that kind of inves...I wish I could talk myself into that kind of investment, but, alas...James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-37267335391779386022019-04-22T06:37:10.704-07:002019-04-22T06:37:10.704-07:00What is seitan? As for senior moments, I have the...What is seitan? As for senior moments, I have them aplenty. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-3605943774216289402019-04-21T21:45:33.083-07:002019-04-21T21:45:33.083-07:00Sorry to obsess, but it bugs me when my brain skip...Sorry to obsess, but it bugs me when my brain skips tracks like this. On reflection I'm thinking the topic was seitan not sprouted bread. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182931570827369405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-997675222529423152019-04-21T20:26:18.465-07:002019-04-21T20:26:18.465-07:00Ha! Sorry about that. I probably just had a seni...Ha! Sorry about that. I probably just had a senior moment. As I tell my wife, much less likely that I'm cheating than it is that my mind is playing tricks on me.Nicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-75793826979345492302019-04-21T18:10:10.891-07:002019-04-21T18:10:10.891-07:00No aluminum ducting tape would not work. The glue ...No aluminum ducting tape would not work. The glue would melt right off.<br />Best bet without welding, might be to bend and form it from metal sheets then just use pop rivets that match the type metal you used. Aluminum would work so long as the heated surface's didn't get hotter than say 400° or so. Better would be to use mild steel of say 12 to 14 guage. Then temperature won't be an issue so much. <br />Stainless even better but harder to cut and bend. Pop rivets are available to match all three types of metal.<br />Best way to transfer the heat might be stove pipes running through the oven to get better heat distribution. Otherwise just placing the "oven" directly on top of the heat source will be hotter on the bottom and cooler at the top of your oven.Spudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00689059709873763146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-34135365753488090542019-04-21T17:53:30.337-07:002019-04-21T17:53:30.337-07:00I have a AC powered WOnder Mill that I use now, an...I have a AC powered WOnder Mill that I use now, and a Much more expensive manual grinder for "after". I also have a couple of Victorio's that were what I first bought, now barter/loaner items.JP in MThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09962679251565524291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-68025241768681445892019-04-21T15:54:52.733-07:002019-04-21T15:54:52.733-07:00I'm not Tim Taylor by any means, but it doesn&...I'm not Tim Taylor by any means, but it doesn't seem THAT hard of an issue to Afro Engineer. Even if you don't weld, would aluminum tape hold up? It's just sheet metal and insulating foam, right?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-85570273031359284882019-04-21T15:48:00.004-07:002019-04-21T15:48:00.004-07:00I feel cheated on. You are getting your survival f...I feel cheated on. You are getting your survival fix from someone else. Sorry, but you have me confused with someone else who tried sprouted bread.:)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-15635219332690380872019-04-21T14:52:30.255-07:002019-04-21T14:52:30.255-07:00Hey Bison - I make a lot of bread at home so I'...Hey Bison - I make a lot of bread at home so I'm familiar with the travails of grinding wheat. I do it anyway since I'm cheap and it does make a better tasting bread. I use the little boxy VICTORIO unit and it does a pretty good job but its small and labor intensive. I use my old Victoria to course grind first to save wear and tear on the finer grinding VICTORIO.<br /><br />However, a couple years ago I started making sprouted grain bread. Essene style so the sprout doesn't need to be dried. More nutritious and so much easier to grind. I started using my grandmother's old cast metal meat grinder that she got as a wedding present over 100 years ago in 1915. Its still going strong and I'm sure it will last me another hundred years should I live to 170... No worries of metal shavings and no problem getting a fine enough grind even using the most primitive tools. Metal meat grinders run around $35 and plastic ones around $25. For fun I picked up a little plastic one at Goodwill for $4 and it works just fine. I suspect it might last a couple decades since there is so little stress in the system. New electric driven ones only cost about $60-$70 and they suck down a lot less power that grain grinders. Take a look at whats available on AMAZON by entering "meat grinder" its a different world compared with grain grinders.<br /><br />You end up with a product that is very easy to process, more nutritious, and more flavorful. I remember that you had a less than positive experience a while back with sprouted grain bread, but give it another try. One of the keys I think is to not let the sprout get too long. The nutrition conversion is essentially complete when the "tail" first pokes out of the seed. I stop there since the longer it gets the more like grass it tastes. Too many online sites suggest letting the tail get as long as the grain. No reason for this and it just messes with flavor. Push the sprouted grain through the meat grinder adding a little salt if you like, then knead it for 5-10 minutes. Leave it plain or add tasty stuff like garlic, raisins, onions, jalapenos, then shape it into little flattish loaves and bake. No sense in adding yeast since it won't rise. The un-ground bran cuts the developing gluten fibers preventing a decent rise. Nicusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-49842957032140450902019-04-21T14:06:02.607-07:002019-04-21T14:06:02.607-07:00On the topic of baking, I wonder if anyone knows o...On the topic of baking, I wonder if anyone knows of an oven suitable for putting on top of a wood stove that is dependable for reaching the temperatures for baking bread. I've found the Omnia and Coleman ovens on the internet. The Omnia has a better reputation for reaching baking temps, but is donut-shaped so unhandy for baking bread (though this would not be a problem for baking rolls, mentioned by Anon 8:47) while the Coleman got a lot of complaints for being uninsulated and having too many ventilation holes, therefore not good for temps above 250° F or so unless it was over a propane burner. Bakerstone appears only to make pizza ovens.<br />When my wife and I got married in Japan, she had a fully insulated oven with an integral thermometer that fit over a regular burner on a common gas stove. Unfortunately, we did not bring it when we moved to the US. I have looked on Japanese websites but not found that kind of oven yet. Japan has modernized and I'm not sure such ovens are even available any more.daniel_dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399665251275194585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-88464962143816041762019-04-21T12:59:08.901-07:002019-04-21T12:59:08.901-07:00Excellent-thanks. Good 'ol pressure cooker. ...Excellent-thanks. Good 'ol pressure cooker. That should be on the top six list of prepper cooking equipment, after grain mill and solar ovens. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-15944456615452963592019-04-21T11:59:58.062-07:002019-04-21T11:59:58.062-07:00I own and use a lot “The Family Grain Mill”. To da...I own and use a lot “The Family Grain Mill”. To date I’ve milled just about 300 lbs of wheat grain, the milled flower is not talcum powder but close. It comes with a hand crank for manual use but has optional adapters to adapt to stand mixers including the KitchenAid which I use. It takes 8 minutes to mill enough flower for two loaves of bread (6½ cups) using the KitchenAid. Yes, it is an all polymer (Lexan) frame but uses hardened stainless burrs, I’m still using the original burrs. It performs great and I expect many more years of use from it.<br />As for the Wheat I use, I started back in Y2K using Hard Red Wheat but it always left a strange aftertaste and the stomach wasn’t fond of it. So I switched to Hard White and have never used Red since. White makes great bread products, anything you can make with White All Purpose flour can be made with Hard White.<br />As for beans I have some old ones in stock too. They are so old you can’t soak them soft before cooking (they are like pea gravel). So now I only “Pressure Cook” them. In just 17 minutes they are cooked and ready to eat.<br /><br />Here’s a link to my blog with details of the mill:<br />https://livingprepared.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-family-grain-mill.html<br />Mike Yukonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07615350717597229013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-28883001641123211152019-04-21T09:41:12.210-07:002019-04-21T09:41:12.210-07:00Yeah, this was stated as being about lower cost ea...Yeah, this was stated as being about lower cost eating NOW, not PA. It is still a luxury item, nicely milled flour. It is like talking about the AR-it is NOT a great PA gun, although it can be used during the disintegration phase to good effect. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-55720561082561520422019-04-21T08:47:22.016-07:002019-04-21T08:47:22.016-07:00I suffer from a poor evolutionary upbringing and o...I suffer from a poor evolutionary upbringing and only know of bread in bags found upon those shelves at stores. These preps and processess are interesting as I like to take things to an extreme or austere mental exercise and problem solving challenge. Post collapse, I don't envision much or many sit down dinners with plates of nicely sliced fluffy soft breads to sop up the other delicious entre's. I would prefer to steer Minions into those simple 'easier' things like little hard roll types of breads (for your satchel when on 'extended' l.p./o.p. or foraging etc) or dumpling type uses mixed in with scraps in a "Hermitage Stew" type recipe. (Think no power, no alternate electric at all, combat sustenance and food prep working conditions) All the current challenges and dilemmas listed above, though worthy concerns, are along the lines of indecisions over what to watch on streaming t.v. tonight. Adopted and practiced techniques must include those worst cases and extremest scenarios to fully maintain a vital continuity of ration intakes during the die off of everyone else. Yesterday's contribution of premaking oatmeal in thermos,(sharing perfected examples of end run around around problems) brilliantly displays the kind of thinking AND practice that meets the entrance fee for the post collapse circus show. (!) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-78875423798376154922019-04-21T08:10:32.824-07:002019-04-21T08:10:32.824-07:00Nevada will tax BBQ propane, but not RV propane. ...Nevada will tax BBQ propane, but not RV propane. Don't want those crusty seniors freezing on the governors watch. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.com