tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post937338666287406895..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: old humper millJames M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-59618701152468934972018-09-22T13:35:07.389-07:002018-09-22T13:35:07.389-07:00Too bad you can't use dynamite any more. :)Too bad you can't use dynamite any more. :)James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-21173118802920207042018-09-22T13:20:49.963-07:002018-09-22T13:20:49.963-07:00Again as always machine excavation is the way to g...Again as always machine excavation is the way to go. $2k including the fuel was enough for me to excavate a 400ft driveway (into a hillside) and a 50 x 50 opening into the hillside to build my house. If I had a dozen slaves I might get a 1/10th done in same week of time, but running a bobcat is easier than the slaves and both more morally correct and less likely to leave someone around to run their mouth - I am the only one who knows exactly what I dug out (and the NSA satellites of course - but you can fool people who depend on them with 'landslides' that got rid of parts of your excavations...)JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-68286806255223890302018-09-17T05:59:03.543-07:002018-09-17T05:59:03.543-07:00So, no insulation on the roof? And it still staye...So, no insulation on the roof? And it still stayed warm?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-5135557211944644382018-09-16T23:07:21.089-07:002018-09-16T23:07:21.089-07:00I dug a ten by twelve hole in the ground, no hilly...I dug a ten by twelve hole in the ground, no hilly areas on property, by hand with a shovel. Took a couple of weeks. Dug down four feet. Used nine poles 6 to 8 inch in diameter, covered the bottom of the poles with thick plastic bags, sunk those poles 2 feet into holes made with posthole digger. Lined the walls behind the poles first with 6 ml poly then plywood. Put a low pitch shed roof on. Back of pit is 4 foot high, front is 6 feet high. Put a metal roof on. Dug out a door and walk way. Put two foot windows on top front area sticking 2 foot out of ground. It's still standing, no cave in after 12 years. Has kept me warmer in winter. Use it as a cellar that's cool in summer. Had a few floods with torrential rain. Should have done the French drain as suggested in Underground house book. May replace poles that got wet but it's built like a tank and very pleased with it. Cost very little to build with great benefits of stealth and warmth. Would build another if had time. Best little shelter. Put a loft in back with shelves for water under the loft. They never freeze even if below zero a long time if I haven't occupied it. Put in French drains to keep it dry. Worth your time and the few bucks to build. Niantic Windhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13122555189803476047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-60460098181608984392018-09-15T12:43:02.582-07:002018-09-15T12:43:02.582-07:00That 8x8 is going to be hard enough. Ask me how I...That 8x8 is going to be hard enough. Ask me how I know :( Actually, it wasn't close to easy but the easiest was an actual 8x8 hole ( making it a 6x6 if I had place walls up ) by 4 deep for the test pit. I put pallets along the edge to get the dirt stacked up high enough where I could stoop over and crab walk at a total of 5 high. One foot over more on each side, or one more foot down made a HUGE difference. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-54043996029109936832018-09-15T08:54:49.105-07:002018-09-15T08:54:49.105-07:00Yes, I’ve actually thought about going that route,...Yes, I’ve actually thought about going that route, but decided that it would be really nice to be able to stand up at times. But if I didn’t care about standing up, then partially burying my now defunct Plymouth Voyager mini van, would probably be the easiest option. I might go with a smaller door though; say 3’ or 4’, that you have to crawl through. This would make it more concealable than a full size door, and you could probably anchor a large sage bush in front of it, and conceal it easy enough.<br /><br />Originally, I wanted to have a full size earth sheltered home, but reality finally got a hold of me, and now I’ve decided that it will likely be no larger than 8’x8’. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-88922228958067113512018-09-15T06:56:14.873-07:002018-09-15T06:56:14.873-07:00I remember seeing one video the guy did undergroun...I remember seeing one video the guy did underground but he crawled in and you couldn't stand up. If you figure that as four feet, in theory you could dig just two to three feet and then mound up the rest. If you really only used it to sleep or get out of the worst weather, it might be the easiest option. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-66788158603842591242018-09-15T04:35:36.281-07:002018-09-15T04:35:36.281-07:00It goes by “bike sprocket attachment” and you can ...It goes by “bike sprocket attachment” and you can attach the bike chain to the sprocket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-33057129303843918002018-09-14T20:06:30.237-07:002018-09-14T20:06:30.237-07:00I hear ya. Though I haven’t been to my land yet, f...I hear ya. Though I haven’t been to my land yet, from Google Earth it looks to be at a continuous grade, so I will likely have to go with the dugout as well. One thing’s for certain, and that’s that there is no easy way to go earth sheltered; only easier. But whatever is the easiest, cheapest, and most effective way to go about it, I’m going to find it! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-32412608902621332932018-09-14T18:06:18.025-07:002018-09-14T18:06:18.025-07:00My remote land is on the north side hill ( no sout...My remote land is on the north side hill ( no southern exposure except last half of day ). So I'd build into the side. Not that I can envision doing the work. Gotta do something, though. Sigh.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-31627893513461764482018-09-14T17:07:55.016-07:002018-09-14T17:07:55.016-07:00Good advice from Peace Out Jim. I’ve been looking ...Good advice from Peace Out Jim. I’ve been looking into dugouts and pithouses in more detail, and at this point in time, I’m thinking that a pithouse would be easier, as well as more concealable. To me, the easiest option would be if you could get a hold of a large corrugated drain pipe (at least 8’ in diameter, and 7’ long) but I do believe that stuff is rather expensive. You could sink the pipe vertically 4’, mound over the remaining 3’, and then all that you have to do is build a roof over the top, along with a trap door. Another option is to bury an old car, and cut out a trap door in the roof. But with the car, it would have to be well sealed; possibly with something such as auto undercoating. You could drag a brush pile over the top for concealment, and anchor it down to prevent it from blowing away.<br /><br />For your purposes, you could probably get by with a basic pithouse at your remote land. But I would store all perishables and food stuff in galvanized metal cans to prevent rodent infestation, and make sure that you have good drainage.<br /><br />See images below for a basic pithouse. They look quire doable to me, even for the average, no skill person.<br /><br />Elko Minion<br /><br />http://www.underground-homes.com/images/pithouse.jpg<br /><br />http://www.crowcanyon.org/EducationProducts/peoples_mesa_verde/images/PI_housing.jpg<br /><br />https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pithouses&t=lm&atb=v78-4_b&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.underground-homes.com%2Fimages%2Fpithouse.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-13824939595459362922018-09-14T15:40:08.124-07:002018-09-14T15:40:08.124-07:00The Soviets only did as well as they did because o...The Soviets only did as well as they did because of our massive equipment and logistics gifts. And the Yanks were the Brits worst enemy, trading imperial concessions for salvation. With friends like these...James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-81443075819403092372018-09-14T14:30:33.414-07:002018-09-14T14:30:33.414-07:00The hilarious thing about WWII is that the Soviets...The hilarious thing about WWII is that the Soviets only just beat the Germans. <br /><br />I'm only just now coming to terms that the UK lost the war as well. Well, they 'won' but it was a Pyrrhic victory they didn't recover fromAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-39989236785725687232018-09-14T14:29:38.918-07:002018-09-14T14:29:38.918-07:00The newest thing seems to be research that digs a ...The newest thing seems to be research that digs a lot deeper than just the catalyst from the assassination. I have one book, The Russian Origins Of WWI. Haven't read it yet, though ( I have a few others but forget the names ). I just like the war because just like with Vietnam, I'm burned out on WWII. And it was the Oil War, which is not as exciting as The Colonial War. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-74885141926778817472018-09-14T14:26:33.427-07:002018-09-14T14:26:33.427-07:00You might be on to something. I'd have to do ...You might be on to something. I'd have to do some research, but that sounds rather rational and obtainable. Thank you.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-1450282845678727092018-09-14T14:24:12.679-07:002018-09-14T14:24:12.679-07:00That sounds rather interesting. Much better than ...That sounds rather interesting. Much better than relying on an electric drill.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-20192023644434143642018-09-14T14:21:08.219-07:002018-09-14T14:21:08.219-07:00I think the Wondermill also has an accessory part ...I think the Wondermill also has an accessory part to grind with foot pedal power. Not that much more if you buy both up front.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-13516759949237394902018-09-14T12:52:12.037-07:002018-09-14T12:52:12.037-07:00Yesterdays topic...
How about hiring your local se...Yesterdays topic...<br />How about hiring your local septic company (Elko has a precast concrete one) to dig a hole on your remote parcel and install a concrete or plastic tank of the dimensions of your choosing? Because, "building soon of course." If you just make sure the manhole is large enough to enter, you can waterproof it, stash it with all your long term goodies, then cover it all over, invisible under ground. Maybe even transplant some sagebrush on top of it or something. Then you can clean up and sell your original lot with the BPOD on it since it seems like it's no longer usable to you with the troublesome neighbors. If anyone decides to follow the road out to the remote parcel, they won't see anything to steal or mess with. If you ever have to bail out of Elko proper, you'd only have to dig down deep enough to reach the top of the manhole cover to access your supplies. With the money from the sale of the BPOD property, you could put in a steel culvert underground/earth sheltered shelter for habitation. Just be sure not to stuff that part full of goodies in case vandals/thieves find it before occupancy is necessary.<br />Peace outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-77043216862162112452018-09-14T12:44:12.493-07:002018-09-14T12:44:12.493-07:00I love trying to research WW1, just because it is ...I love trying to research WW1, just because it is so hard to do. After all, how's does a world war start after some unknown arch Duke gets shot?Wrenchr2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970779022776650104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-51588978252593701802018-09-14T12:21:48.297-07:002018-09-14T12:21:48.297-07:00Thanks, first I had heard of it being earlier than...Thanks, first I had heard of it being earlier than WWII.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-10263078179198610802018-09-14T12:20:57.340-07:002018-09-14T12:20:57.340-07:00??????James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-24089373569187854012018-09-14T11:46:21.295-07:002018-09-14T11:46:21.295-07:00Just a thought, couldn't those washers for the...Just a thought, couldn't those washers for the grinder be substituted for an old copper penny with a hole drilled in it?Wrenchr2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970779022776650104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-55286195917043808802018-09-14T11:43:18.363-07:002018-09-14T11:43:18.363-07:00Apparently it was taught to them in the Russo-Jap ...Apparently it was taught to them in the Russo-Jap war, later they used it in their revolutionary war during WW1, but not actually against any Axis/Allie power. That had to wait for WW2Wrenchr2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03970779022776650104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-73635027292868866792018-09-14T10:31:03.620-07:002018-09-14T10:31:03.620-07:00This is where the rubber meets the road as far as ...This is where the rubber meets the road as far as minion's smarty pants goes. Every single implement or contraption you look at you instinctively assess the failure points and sez to your self how would I have made this P.O.S. better. Also what wear out consumable parts should I source for continuity of the unit. I use a kero lantern as study example: I order in at same time knowing this stuff, a spare globe or two and packs of wicks. This puts the unit's servicability deep into the future and probably past my life cycle, but, it is done. They will name community gathering institutions after you for being the wise one (wise assed as well) to think this shit up and save yer ass and a few other peons that propigate your scribblings. It could and may happen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-28536437900062608022018-09-14T10:09:39.624-07:002018-09-14T10:09:39.624-07:00way back when I had one of those Back to Basic mil...way back when I had one of those Back to Basic mills.. they had soft brass washers back then.. very soft. you could watch it deform as you ground your wheat. sounds like they have not learned their lesson. <br /><br />TMMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com