tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post8333233095010400758..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: small town livingJames M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-37694863410997183202016-05-12T05:48:51.786-07:002016-05-12T05:48:51.786-07:00There was a story recently about someone in China ...There was a story recently about someone in China stocking copper, in huge amounts, for barter. Can't remember any details.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-50713169179099995202016-05-12T05:44:13.195-07:002016-05-12T05:44:13.195-07:00Well, in theory, you shouldn't be discriminate...Well, in theory, you shouldn't be discriminated against because you are embracing the new victim paradigm. Perhaps don't show them the box of Wheaties with your picture on it? Or would that help?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-28492506099979479842016-05-11T16:15:29.572-07:002016-05-11T16:15:29.572-07:00So when I move out to the country I should leave m...So when I move out to the country I should leave my makeup, dresses, high heals and jewelry behind?????????????<br /><br /><br />Chuck Findlay Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-88207760135268693122016-05-11T15:21:15.893-07:002016-05-11T15:21:15.893-07:00Barter is inferior trade. It's for consumables...Barter is inferior trade. It's for consumables and friends, or Nation-States with raw materials when they lack supplies or willingness to use gold. People will barter, but mostly with people they know and trust, so it's going to be with people you almost want to make a gift to, if you could be reasonably sure that they would help you when you need it. Instead of barter, you could assemble local trade-clubs with a ledger-entry trade system that could allow credit to be offered by sellers to retail buyers as well as among themselves. You could allow anything as-agreed-to, but it stops working if anyone gets too much debt or credit compared to the system (like TBTF banks). 7-year Jubilee might be a good reset period to prevent formation of slave and master classes by debt/credit. Buying a farm with produce from that farm probably couldn't mathematically happen, but if a buyer had some super-money (gold or silver) to put half down, it probably could be bought for 5 years output. Land wouldn't change hands much, but people would live/work on the land and have rights to themselves/family/personalproperty as feudal tenants would. <br /><br />This why small silver coins (US pre-1965 dimes) are so important for trade: you can't trust strangers to operate inside your barter club and they can't trust you the same way. You need something desirable (compact/divisible/permanent/standardized & limited in quantity) to act as money not needing trust/counter-party risk, and gold/silver/platinum metals do this best, especially when coined. Trades are possible using base-metal coins/bars of copper/nickel/tin/aluminum/zinc metals that are industrially useful but you need warehouses, not pockets, to walk away rich. <br /><br />I'm sure really-smart people have overthought this already, and we are living the end-game of their Illuminati descendants. <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-58550458651480389442016-05-11T15:10:27.636-07:002016-05-11T15:10:27.636-07:00Which is surprisingly generous of them. In a divo...Which is surprisingly generous of them. In a divorce, ZERO thought is given to how little the male is left with to survive on so he can keep working in adequate health ( perhaps the male haters really do want them to work themselves to death ).James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-41305307623914871592016-05-11T15:08:29.619-07:002016-05-11T15:08:29.619-07:00Excellent! I hadn't considered that at all-th...Excellent! I hadn't considered that at all-thank you. I was only noticing trees in that forest. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-44857890477412565302016-05-11T14:44:40.171-07:002016-05-11T14:44:40.171-07:00I have heard from several sources that being young...I have heard from several sources that being young single female and moving into a small town is very difficult. The current batch of local females are watching their men closely for ANY interaction with the "city whore" who will steal their men, and inventing gossip from whole-cloth based on innocent daytime behavior. A woman must be seen as either already "belonging to someone" or be 200% useful (volunteer, small-business, etc.) and unimpeachable (teetotalling nun, careful-modest dress, non-luxury car 3-10 years old, minimal jewelry, minimal make-up, widow of famous admired person). This is not without basis, since all-life-same-town people are often lacking significant education or big-picture perspective and may have been left behind by their peers because they are "slow" and/or "lack initiative" (dropped out of HS, had sub-crap ASVAB scores, or were paralysed-in-place early by successful local prosecutors enforcing order). <br /><br />Single men can show up with money, employment story that matches clothing, bathe occasionally, buy some drinks at the local pub twice, attend "acceptable" church 4 times a year, and "he's a good guy". <br />cue: David Bowie "When you're a boy". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-43444841503883737932016-05-11T14:19:10.153-07:002016-05-11T14:19:10.153-07:00Most BK courts will allow you to keep a car that y...Most BK courts will allow you to keep a car that you own without debt, if it's an older POS. Wage slaves need a beater to get back to work and take on some post-BK debt to keep the system going. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-64498754312726418032016-05-11T05:40:21.928-07:002016-05-11T05:40:21.928-07:00If you must have debt, an auto only is best. Sinc...If you must have debt, an auto only is best. Since you can repo it and it doesn't follow you through bankruptcy. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-45665628943113330942016-05-10T17:28:52.966-07:002016-05-10T17:28:52.966-07:00Hey, I resemble the mobile home remark. Of course ...Hey, I resemble the mobile home remark. Of course i live in the country in south Mississippi. It works for now and is paid for.<br /><br />Im working on hammering my debt. I have an 8.6 acre lot and a 13+ acre lot....connected. All my improvements are on the 8.6. They are financed through a friend. Since the well and septic are on the 8.6 i will likely build my 800-1000 sq. ft. house on it. If by some miracle we get 2-3 years of "normal" I will build my house debt free. I owe nothing to the banks except my truck. i dont worry about the banks.Nightshifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16463940857394060911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-82618744256165083072016-05-10T14:16:52.615-07:002016-05-10T14:16:52.615-07:00Actually, I would put the filth stream start at th...Actually, I would put the filth stream start at the early to mid '80's with the advent of video stores. I don't remember ANY television channels, but the video store did a brisk business, as did the liquer store that also rented a smaller selection.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-38164025271109869412016-05-10T14:13:22.314-07:002016-05-10T14:13:22.314-07:00I have no bills ( I discount rent as this is elect...I have no bills ( I discount rent as this is elective ) and don't think I could get by on less than half of what I earn now ( $5k a year instead of my current $10k ). As you say, there is simply too many things needing money. Barter was feasible prior to mechanized farming and the Federal Reserve-it won't be again until we devolve quite a ways.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-31483328350847436312016-05-10T14:08:17.734-07:002016-05-10T14:08:17.734-07:00"Again damn good article and hump that dude g..."Again damn good article and hump that dude giving you BS."<br />I actually like strong disagreement, based on logic. It keeps me sharp and alert. Pure hate, I really can't comprehend. Oh well, I'll keep posting them as long as the N-Bomb and libel rules are followed-if you start to censure for other things it becomes a slippery slope.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-34328810827775995112016-05-10T13:38:57.811-07:002016-05-10T13:38:57.811-07:00Yep, knowing the sheriff, mayor, and county commis...Yep, knowing the sheriff, mayor, and county commissioners on first name basis and face recognition (in positive or neutral light) is a GOOD thing. <br />Talking to the head of the road crew, phone company, and dump grounds directly and usually immediately, is also a good thing. Easy to do with a population of 1 - 5 thousand. Near impossible with a population of 50 thousand. <br />Is my acquaintance Danny the sheriff going to gun me down in cold blood during the crash, instead of talking to me or trying to work things out by other means first? (good luck trying to protect yourself from a government sniper if you don't know the member of the government). <br />Keep off the feds radar, make friends with the local power structure, and keep the big banks and businesses as far from your personal business as possible and you have a chance at coming out of the crash with the least possible hurt. JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-55848394723661526782016-05-10T13:27:37.755-07:002016-05-10T13:27:37.755-07:00I am looking forward to this very fact. Because, i...I am looking forward to this very fact. Because, if there is anything to the whole 'agenda 21' conspiracy to get everyone to live in the cities, the easy way to go about it is to make benefits such as food stamps and welfare require urban residence to receive. Overnight the rural eater class will pick up and move to the cities. <br />If they don't, well, it is still easier to ID them especially the trouble making sort than elsewhere, and fewer of them to potentially have to deal with. <br />JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-39596849313849446602016-05-10T13:10:09.683-07:002016-05-10T13:10:09.683-07:00Lord Bison,
I just wanted to tell you that this i...Lord Bison,<br /><br />I just wanted to tell you that this is likely the best column that you have penned in your illustrious career.<br /><br />My family hails from the Northeastern Appalachian area. Your descriptions of the state of small town America dovetail rather nicely with my own. My mother and father both left a small mountain city (20,000+/-) to migrate to the East Coast worker hives (circa 1983). Many of their siblings scrammed as soon as they could. <br />30+ years later the entire region my family hails from is a motley collection of people scraping by--barely, or others that teeter on the brink of oblivion due to substance abuse and mental health issues and chronic unemployment. Thanks for not falling into the trap of blaming the poor for problems clearly out of their hands. I am no bleeding heart...but Horatio Algering your way out of many situations is just not viable (if it every truly was).<br /><br />The family that I have still living in the vicinity would gouge your eyes out for a shot at a 12$ per hour job. The only solid employer is the prison system (both state and federal) which keeps building jails on the site of moribund industrial properties (including the factory that my great grandma worked at until her retirement).<br /><br />There are also jobs aplenty in the underground economy mostly centering around illicit pharma and drug dealing. A number of my cousins entered this line of work...Beats McDonald's or so I am told. <br /><br />I think that these area's certainly offer safer alternatives to living the big city life. Especially as we continue to follow in the economic death spiral. However,it is good to have perspective. These regions are not the mom's apple pie, Norman Rockwell honey pits that so many wish to believe that they are. Welfare and drugs are just as much a way of life in West Virginia as they are in the urban slave matrix of Oakland, CA. Overall the lower population density is what keeps you safe. <br /><br />Again damn good article and hump that dude giving you BS.<br />Sir Lord Baltimorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-36218038559970272812016-05-10T07:20:13.548-07:002016-05-10T07:20:13.548-07:00I do handyman / home repair work, in order for me ...I do handyman / home repair work, in order for me to have money I need a town / city with people willing to pay me. Small towns don’t have enough people to support my working. Also people in the country are more likely to repair things themselves.<br /><br />I live in a suburb of a somewhat large city (Toledo Ohio) and am able to easily drive to the jobs I need to do. My plans in a few years (I take care of my parents as no one else will do it. They are 86 & n88 years old) is to move out 25-miles or so so I’m in the country a bit but still close enough to do the work I do.<br /><br />Back during the 1930’s depression people moved to the cities, not away from them because there was no money to be made in the country. It also happened this way in Argentina during the 2001 collapse. <br /><br />I know it’s a prepper dream to live way out by yourself (pushed by JWR and his Patriots series of books) but it’s not practical and will probably fail. <br /><br />We all need money and trade to live and cities is where this happens. <br /><br />James I don’t blame you one bit for moving to a town or city. Like I said above I want to move to just outside of the city to still make a living. <br /><br />I have a LOT of skills that would allow me a reasonable good life in the country, I have the tools and a good supply of materials to go with the tools and skills. And I’m actively learning more all the time, but I still need money to buy things, pay taxes and the 100 other things money does for us. <br /><br />I’ve learned to live on a lower level of income them most people and actually be pretty happy. But I still NEED money as we all do and few of us have enough of it to be isolated from it’s exchange for goods. And small towns probably won’t support the base of people they have right now when or if the government paycheck stops. And I’m fairy sure you will again see a migration to (not away from) cities. <br /><br />Trade must happen and we need people for it to do so. And barter is another prepper wet dream, I barter my repair services some now, but it’s hard to find things people have that I want or need (silver always works, but few people have silver) so while I generally like to barer work, it’s hard to actually get it to work on a large scale. <br /><br />Might it be better to position yourself for this now then post SHTF and be close enough to a city or large town for trade and work to happen, but still out a bit to give you a buffer from the crazy that may happen???<br /><br /><br />Chuck FindlayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-5268762236971007212016-05-10T06:58:53.563-07:002016-05-10T06:58:53.563-07:00I think that small town life has changed considera...I think that small town life has changed considerably for the worse since the post internet and technology age James. Practically speaking, many small towns in the 1980's and before, really were still living back in the 1950's. Most of these rural areas only got the 1 or 2 local television stations, and I'm going to guess that these stations didn't air too much of the hollyweird filth. Flash forward to the 90's and practically everyone, even the small town poor, now have an internet connection and an 18” satellite dish to filter the propaganda into their homes. Surprisingly, there were still many rural townships that did not have grid power as recently as the 1960's.<br /><br />Also, meth has become a problem in practically all small town areas all across the country; unheard of when I was a kid. You always heard about the moonshining hillbilly's, but they were tame compared to the drug cookers. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-60188330218602680492016-05-10T05:38:52.587-07:002016-05-10T05:38:52.587-07:00Your hair inspires us all!Your hair inspires us all!James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-68028304767018926542016-05-10T05:38:29.194-07:002016-05-10T05:38:29.194-07:00Good analogy. I might inadvertently use it one da...Good analogy. I might inadvertently use it one day, not remembering I stole it.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-84771023906003846102016-05-10T05:37:11.727-07:002016-05-10T05:37:11.727-07:00And of course, if you bring money in ( it doesn...And of course, if you bring money in ( it doesn't have to be "he's rich" money, just Blue Collar money ), you'll get extra brownie points. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-30302691470219785902016-05-10T05:34:48.752-07:002016-05-10T05:34:48.752-07:00Right. I think the coping mechanisms for small to...Right. I think the coping mechanisms for small towns don't always work-one hen higher in the pecking order disapproves and you get nowhere.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-52232036247686887792016-05-10T05:32:31.972-07:002016-05-10T05:32:31.972-07:00Can't the old bastards just watch TV like all ...Can't the old bastards just watch TV like all the other self-respecting zombies?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-44990925517518736892016-05-10T04:46:16.964-07:002016-05-10T04:46:16.964-07:00I think the bump in the road I live in has a popul...I think the bump in the road I live in has a population of less than 800. Its failing quick, not enough revenue to keep the sewer working right, I expect the state to step in soon and take over. The bills will sky rocket, I am working on a plan. Hint: they bill for sewer based on the water usage. I'm using a shallow well to "wash cars" and water the garden with. I don't see why that can't flush a toilet as well as provide semi clean water in a grid down situation. Still have to boil or some other method to sterilize it. I lived on a shallow well for 40+ years with no ill effects. The local drug users have so far not been much of problem, all my stuff appears to be worthless junk I guess. We do have somewhat of a local tribe going on, mostly old geezers that can't sleep looking out the window out of complete boredom wishing they were some where else. They love to call the law just for a bit of excitement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-15384107379630851012016-05-09T20:52:43.848-07:002016-05-09T20:52:43.848-07:00Jim, I moved to a small town in 2000 and left it i...Jim, I moved to a small town in 2000 and left it in 2002 because I did not have any roots their. People were friendly on the surface but that was as far as it went. I could not get any help or info. I would truly be on my own if TSHTF. Better have lots of money to build everything you need and stock lots of food and ammo. If you don't have family their don't go. This is where a little bit bigger city is better just get land a few miles out of town to set up shop until the die off is over. Work the land and stock a hidden catch if food, guns, cooking stuff. Speedgenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15450810722559241644noreply@blogger.com