tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post1772547655391268707..comments2023-08-15T06:33:53.114-07:00Comments on Bison Prepper: less evil-the die off 1 of 3James M Dakinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-55767396905562503752016-08-27T07:25:56.171-07:002016-08-27T07:25:56.171-07:00His empire worked great. Until he overshot his gr...His empire worked great. Until he overshot his grazing terrain. Built up areas, as opposed to steppes, don't work as well.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-67223299153547944072016-08-26T20:52:03.777-07:002016-08-26T20:52:03.777-07:00Ghangis Khan, (spelling??) used to send out fellas...Ghangis Khan, (spelling??) used to send out fellas 12mths before his armies to kill and or run of the big herds of grazeing animals so as his horses had plenty of grass to eat. AussieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-86558280422656906802016-08-25T14:26:44.957-07:002016-08-25T14:26:44.957-07:00I understand what your saying but its not a total ...I understand what your saying but its not a total collapse its economic collapse in a nationalized economy. A die off event requires no one has the surplus to sell or the ability to transport it. Gary in Bamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00095999376990912465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-63188322277694223972016-08-25T14:17:31.852-07:002016-08-25T14:17:31.852-07:00I tend to side with the Uber-tree huggers on this ...I tend to side with the Uber-tree huggers on this one. Technology is not the same as functional, common sense tool use. Technology has too large of an infrastructure base to support on dwindling energy availability. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-64073856091878527852016-08-25T14:15:41.378-07:002016-08-25T14:15:41.378-07:00Doesn't almost everything we are seeing unfold...Doesn't almost everything we are seeing unfold?James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-18101108532531841922016-08-25T14:14:48.534-07:002016-08-25T14:14:48.534-07:00"directing your Pushtun like force well"..."directing your Pushtun like force well" is not how to secure a long term tribe. Bad ;leaders come around, good ones die. Don't rely on leadership. Rely on custom. So, yes, in effect "direct" them well, but in the sense of establishing the culture immediately. Then your presence is optional.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-33215048343073953432016-08-25T14:10:56.494-07:002016-08-25T14:10:56.494-07:00There is the strange current Russian fixation on v...There is the strange current Russian fixation on very easy divorce. I would imagine this particular aspect of Women's Lib helps keep the democraphic pressure down. Not sure how that plays out long term.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-40450190824002697842016-08-25T14:07:57.935-07:002016-08-25T14:07:57.935-07:00Ol' Remus says it best. Better than all other...Ol' Remus says it best. Better than all other writers combined. Stay away from crowds.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-2549706772957429832016-08-25T14:06:57.579-07:002016-08-25T14:06:57.579-07:00Living off the land is always a crap shoot for arm...Living off the land is always a crap shoot for armies. The one that figures a work-around will almost always win the war.<br />*<br />Forget high tech logistics killers, worry about simple fuel and replacement parts being unavailable.<br />*<br />Any military activity at the Agricultural Age and above has logistics issues.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-34522684448311889552016-08-25T12:25:07.762-07:002016-08-25T12:25:07.762-07:00Hmmm... IIRC there have been lots of conflicts tha...Hmmm... IIRC there have been lots of conflicts that went on for a very long time prior to the industrial revolution. It is less a matter of outside supplies than the ill will between parties - admittedly out and out war like WW2 and Korea etc. would be less likely as outside support dwindles to nothing, instead it will be more like the ongoing conflicts between the Scottish and Irish clans before the UK conquered them. A few raids here, a few raids there, occasionally an entire village burned and all the children taken as slaves, etc. <br />Skirmishes by and large with only the rare token large scale pitched battle to try to settle things once and for all (usually followed by genocide if successful).JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-49253698591316785582016-08-25T12:24:35.034-07:002016-08-25T12:24:35.034-07:00Just think every thing to be sold this Christmas i...Just think every thing to be sold this Christmas is in transit or a warehouse already! Drones, cruise, and ICBM's primary function is destroy logistical supply. he who has the most supplies win 90% of the time.Gary in Bamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00095999376990912465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-40854114001547437372016-08-25T11:39:58.177-07:002016-08-25T11:39:58.177-07:00Oh, it is still ghoulish. But it is practical too-...Oh, it is still ghoulish. But it is practical too- lots of resources there and the cultures/ civilizations there have historically tended to be less progressive in both tolerance and technology. I see technology as the only real way to avoid longer term human race extinction. (A way for advanced life to get off the planet and colonize new planets).JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-10736899613035110832016-08-25T10:29:05.523-07:002016-08-25T10:29:05.523-07:00Armies travel on their stomachs, has always been t...Armies travel on their stomachs, has always been true. The armies can often get foods from their conquered territories but scorched earth tactics may make such hazardous to rely on. <br />More people have starved because of armies than any weather event(s). JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-35651869225669049752016-08-25T10:18:52.219-07:002016-08-25T10:18:52.219-07:00Reinforces the need for a bolt action rather than ...Reinforces the need for a bolt action rather than semi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-4944172164799491382016-08-25T08:45:23.004-07:002016-08-25T08:45:23.004-07:00A 48-pack of AA Duracell (throwaway) batteries may...A 48-pack of AA Duracell (throwaway) batteries may have 12 year storage date on them, but they go darn-fast when being fed to walkie-talkies, flashlights, and night vision goggles. "just get a case of 20 packs" uhhh, problem only slightly shifted forward in time for your minimal "multi-generational survival" tribe of at least 20 super-compatible adults of multiple cross-trained skills. They will burn 1000 AA's every year on "essential" uses. The solutions are no-battery 18th century ones, like whistles and using moonlight as primary behavior, and operational radios/NV as reserved/secret/secured "force multipliers". <br /><br />Have many sons, like the Pashtun do. This will be the tribal force. Direct it well to keep the food stocks gathered and secured. <br /><br />High-tech goodies like a 1960's mil-surp grey poncho will be treasured. You don't get wet, don't get cold, don't die, while under-prepared out-of-gas hungry wandering Sburbans without ponchos do. Look at the thin-clothing people wear in their climate-controlled houses and cars- without massive BTU input of specialized fuels none of this works and it's back to San Diego or huddling around fires until spring. Flip-flops are not good for road marching. <br /><br />pdxr13<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-32596116104679728742016-08-25T08:21:42.941-07:002016-08-25T08:21:42.941-07:00“Forget just surviving physically. Here we are wi...“Forget just surviving physically. Here we are with faction fighting faction, one group ( based on race or political affiliation or geological occupation, etc. “<br /><br /><br />Of the above, aside from sheer numbers alone overwhelming you, the least threatening demographic above is the big city, government dependent, leftists (Hate guns, so no way to defend themselves, and total government dependence). This group will be the first to die, be it starvation, or slaughter by others. The mino's are dependent on big daddy just the same, but are much more warrior like in their ways, and will out live the former. That's why it's particularly important to put some serious distance between yourself and these areas now.<br /><br /><br />“Only Russia seems a viable survivor, and they are more traditionally defense orientated.”<br /><br /><br />Totally agree. Russia doesn't do PC, and as such, will survive in the long term. The Russians were one of the first in modern times to experiment with feminism during the era of the Soviet Union, and saw the damage that it caused, and abolished it. The west does not “suffer” from that sort of common sense, and would have continued down the same destructive path until it all unraveled, had resource depletion not become the deal breaker first. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-92153354422468111702016-08-25T08:00:09.879-07:002016-08-25T08:00:09.879-07:00Finally! Someone who gets what I mean when I say ...Finally! Someone who gets what I mean when I say preppers are optimists.... How long has it been since we started hearing "Store shelves in Venezuela are bare"? They're not dropping like flies, and they weren't as obese as Americans. Sure, the die-off won't take decades, but I expect it will take months if not a couple years. And hungry mob vs. lone prepper is not good odds. So, like you say, don't be where the masses of people are, and be well-stocked, while looking like you aren't.John D. Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16203607452410210779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-47612552056163990402016-08-25T05:05:02.964-07:002016-08-25T05:05:02.964-07:00Its surprising how little people realize about log...Its surprising how little people realize about logistics. "Magically appear on shelves" is the norm.James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-43726832516292941442016-08-24T19:37:43.254-07:002016-08-24T19:37:43.254-07:00We are used to conflicts dragging on for years. W...We are used to conflicts dragging on for years. What most don't realize is that's only possible because of outside supplies. In a more global situation one can imagine all the high tech goodies being exhausted pretty quickly with no chance of resupply.Sixbearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15572224383041421400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-70447563578251141762016-08-24T12:31:21.544-07:002016-08-24T12:31:21.544-07:00Anonymous is right.
Store all you can. And then f...Anonymous is right. <br />Store all you can. And then find places to store more. <br />But you are right too Jim, we can not store enough. <br />We have to resupply someway, somehow. <br />Trade will continue at ruinous prices for the least morsel but it will continue. So trade goods might be worth while, but only if they are easily fungible and smaller and lighter than an equivalent value of other supplies while being easier to hid and safer to spend.<br />The other option it to figure out how to source food and supplies during the middle of the outbreak of total anarchy and civil war without being seen as a target by others who would want such food too. <br />There are no perfect solutions. Some might be better than others - distant locations well out of the main lines of travel reduce the threat of violence, combined with a good early warning system you can escape/harass/fight any invaders. Cached supplies widely spread will also help. <br />A way to produce food that will be overlooked by most will also help.<br />But it still might not be enough. <br />Got to try. <br />Lets hope for a fast die off while doing what we can (My dream is for a CME or Xray burst to just skim part of the globe like east asia and Africa leaving those areas mostly empty for colonization by the survivors in the Americas and Europe etc. I feel ghoulish for hoping for such but it seems to me to be the best chance for the human race and western civilization.JJGreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708302086326564665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-65965966385246019682016-08-24T07:51:22.844-07:002016-08-24T07:51:22.844-07:00I had to get pretty creative just on a five year s...I had to get pretty creative just on a five year supply. I can't imagine having the room for a ten. Of course, that was for two and a half people which translates to a single person twelve year supply. James M Dakinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01382139289994087931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2686829448547770092.post-56965744568894060472016-08-24T07:45:37.096-07:002016-08-24T07:45:37.096-07:00This is why There is no limit on the amount of cal...This is why There is no limit on the amount of calories to stockpile. Practical limits occur, but a 10 year food supply is not as crazy as some would make it out to be. That's how long the civil war in Angola screwed up food supplies there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com